Varicocele anyone?

[Just1atLeast]

My DH has it on both sides with Hydrocele (fluid around testicles) making it even hotter. My RE said that it would basically cosmetic surgery and that it wouldn't help. Don't know how true that is but he said IVF was our only chance. I'm so sick of hearing that but i've had 5 opinions. He gets very angry when they tell him he could be the problem now since i have PCOS and we have it under control now and i'm still not getting a baby. He usually has about 1-7 million each IUI and we've done 8 so far (BIG waste of money)!

 

[dreaminghopin]

Hi everyone,

Hope I can join this thread.

Hubby has varicocele and we always knew it may be an issue. However it didn't take too long to get a BFP so we were initially quite relieved (sadly lost baby at 5 weeks). Since then, no luck and hubby decided to get his sperm analysed last week. Been told he has a count of 1 million which is of course low. The consultant has told him to get another test as he wants a few readings for accuracy (we did bed the night before as forgot he had appointment and think your meant to abstain for at least 48 hours). He is also going for a scan but the consultant told him that most up to date research suggests that operating does not improve count. This appears to contradict some of the info I have been seeing online.

I was just wondering if vitamins etc has an effect when the problem is varicocele? Does anyone know??

Thanks xx

 

[Melbram]

Hi everyone,

Hope I can join this thread.

Hubby has varicocele and we always knew it may be an issue. However it didn't take too long to get a BFP so we were initially quite relieved (sadly lost baby at 5 weeks). Since then, no luck and hubby decided to get his sperm analysed last week. Been told he has a count of 1 million which is of course low. The consultant has told him to get another test as he wants a few readings for accuracy (we did bed the night before as forgot he had appointment and think your meant to abstain for at least 48 hours). He is also going for a scan but the consultant told him that most up to date research suggests that operating does not improve count. This appears to contradict some of the info I have been seeing online.

I was just wondering if vitamins etc has an effect when the problem is varicocele? Does anyone know??

Thanks xx

Hi there Dreaminghopin really sorry to hear about your loss

Im not sure whether vitamins help with varicocele sorry but they are worth taking anyway. We find out on the 21st whether the vitamins have helped OHs swimmers

 

[dreaminghopin]

Hi everyone,

Hope I can join this thread.

Hubby has varicocele and we always knew it may be an issue. However it didn't take too long to get a BFP so we were initially quite relieved (sadly lost baby at 5 weeks). Since then, no luck and hubby decided to get his sperm analysed last week. Been told he has a count of 1 million which is of course low. The consultant has told him to get another test as he wants a few readings for accuracy (we did bed the night before as forgot he had appointment and think your meant to abstain for at least 48 hours). He is also going for a scan but the consultant told him that most up to date research suggests that operating does not improve count. This appears to contradict some of the info I have been seeing online.

I was just wondering if vitamins etc has an effect when the problem is varicocele? Does anyone know??

Thanks xx

Hi there Dreaminghopin really sorry to hear about your loss

Im not sure whether vitamins help with varicocele sorry but they are worth taking anyway. We find out on the 21st whether the vitamins have helped OHs swimmers

Thank you and hope you see an improvement on the 21st x

 

[Sexki11en]

Melbram , any news honey. Did you get your results?

SK x

 

[Melbram]

Hi everyone

Count was down to 6mil but motility was up to 26% - the FS didnt go through things bit by bit or confirm what the morph was. With all the other SA OH had abstained for 5 days but it was only 4 this time and it was after new year so lots of alchol over the xmas and new year period probably didnt help.

We were given the option to either continue with my investigation (just to check my tubes) and put me on clomid for 6 months and see what happens or go staright to IVF. As OHs count is down even if there was any problem with me it still woldnt guarantee a natural pregnancy. I really didnt want to be in the exact same position 6 months down the line so we opted for IVF.....so just waiting for by PIE appt then its all systems go

 

[aintlifegrand]

My husband found out this morning that he does indeed have the vein. She said 15% of men do. We are going to try IUI twice, then he is going to have surgery if it wont work.

 

[missy123]

***UPDATE******

hubbys count has gone from 32/34 million to a whopping 48 million!!!!!

everything normal and no sign of concern,he will get a full report next week x

 

[Melbram]

Great news Missy! keep us updated on your journey

 

[Sexki11en]

***UPDATE******

hubbys count has gone from 32/34 million to a whopping 48 million!!!!!

everything normal and no sign of concern,he will get a full report next week x

Missy, that's amazing! Were you doing anything else or do you think this is just as a result of the op?

Did you get the full results yet? I'd be really interested to see the comparisons.

We got our appointment with the Urologist (finally - after they lost hubbys details for a month and it took us chasing nearly every day to get it sorted!) for 4th April. We have everything crossed.

SK x

 

[dreaminghopin]

Hi everyone,

Wow missy that is fantastic.

How is everyone else getting on?

My hubby had his second sperm analysis (last one I am going to ignore as we BD 8 hours prior)

Count: 14 million
vol: 3
Motility: 30%
Morph: 5%

He is still trying to get a follow up appointment with urologist after his scan however his notes appear to be lost, sec is on holiday, then sick leave and nobody seems to want to help us. Scan was 6 weeks ago. I am in the UK and guessing that we will get the same response as you did Sex Kitten. Part of me does want hubby to start saying he is pain to increase the chance of operation. I am usually an honest person but really peed off with NHS at moment for a lot of reasons and not just TTC related.

GP is an eternal optimist who believes that it is still possible to conceive naturally and said to come back in October if still nothing aghhh!! Do others agree with this based on account? I know it well below WHO guidelines but GP has said this is just a guide.

Happy Friday xxxxx

 

[Melbram]

HI Dreaminghoping - sorry to hear about the trouble you are having getting the results! they dont seem to realise that this is our life and we think about it every single day!

I think its always possible to conceive natural no matter what the numbers etc so there is always hope - my oh's count has gone down to 6mil and the Head of the IVF Centre told us on average it would take us 4-5 years to conceive on those numbers

We are now formally on the waiting list for IVF - I have attended the Info Evening and will have further blood tests done next week to test for Rubella and HIV then get started

 

[Regalpeas]

Hi ladies, care if I join in?

Dh was pre-diagnosed (In Male FS office) with Varicocele in both testes. However his US came back negative. Although we were happy that he didn't need surgery I was very confused how the FS could be sure, but the nothing. Well the FS still believes he feels something so he put dh on clomid for the next few months. We;ll retest everything in 3 mos I believe.

Dh has 8million "working" sperm. Low I know. They want him to get to 10 million so they can be washed for IUI. So right now we're in a waiting period.

Love to join in discussion with you ladies. Wishing everyone success!

 

[dreaminghopin]

Hi ladies, care if I join in?

Dh was pre-diagnosed (In Male FS office) with Varicocele in both testes. However his US came back negative. Although we were happy that he didn't need surgery I was very confused how the FS could be sure, but the nothing. Well the FS still believes he feels something so he put dh on clomid for the next few months. We;ll retest everything in 3 mos I believe.

Dh has 8million "working" sperm. Low I know. They want him to get to 10 million so they can be washed for IUI. So right now we're in a waiting period.

Love to join in discussion with you ladies. Wishing everyone success!

When they say working sperm, does that mean the percentage of mobile sperm?

 

[dreaminghopin]

HI Dreaminghoping - sorry to hear about the trouble you are having getting the results! they dont seem to realise that this is our life and we think about it every single day!

I think its always possible to conceive natural no matter what the numbers etc so there is always hope - my oh's count has gone down to 6mil and the Head of the IVF Centre told us on average it would take us 4-5 years to conceive on those numbers

We are now formally on the waiting list for IVF - I have attended the Info Evening and will have further blood tests done next week to test for Rubella and HIV then get started

Thats great how long do you think it will be till you start treament. Thanks for replying, it is just so hard when your life and dreams are in the hands of others. The thought of waiting a few years for our little one seems so hard.

 

[Regalpeas]

Hi Dreaming, yes! Moving sperm and properly shaped sperm(morphology). DH's boys are not doing good at too. :/

 

[dreaminghopin]

thanks regal, think that means we're screwed for IUI then xxx

 

[Regalpeas]

Well our current FS put DH on clomid because it's supposed to help with motility and count. Honestly, our fs was not very clear as to what the plan was except to see if dh's count can get to 10 million.

But yes as of now IUI is out for dh and I. Hope things get better for all of us struggling in this area.

 

[dreaminghopin]

Hi,

How is everyone?
Finally received a letter from urologist (only 2 months and 8 phonecalls later). He said that ultrascan did not show a 'significant' varicocele and therefore no intervention is required. When he examined hubby prior to scan he was positive that he had it. Feeling a bit stumped now. Our plan was to wait until varicocele was diagnosed then argue for operation. Not sure how significant 'significant' is if you know what I mean. Meanwhile I have trouble myself (spot throughout my cycle ) and it is gradually getting worse each cycle. GP bit dismissive and feeling a bit hopeless bla!! Oh well on to the next nhs battle Hope your all doing ok. Any updates??

 

[Melbram]

Dreaminghopin - sorry to hear you didnt get the news you wanted - its so frustrated - urologist was almost adamant OH and varicocle because it was so big but turned out to be just a big vein

I guess if its not a "significant" vein it isnt likely to be the problem or be causing the extent of the problem so not worth pursuing that avenue

with your spotting could you perhaps try varying your diet - Im sure there are certain types of foods you and eat or cut out to try and regularise your cycles so it may stop the spotting...totalling guessing here!

Im still waiting for my blood test results so I can attend for further consultatin - that consultation will be to discuss was protocol I will be on then hopefully get started on next cycle - Im very lucky there is no waiting list

If you have proved male factor there shouldnt be an issue with NHS funding for you