When is it ok to say if they don't eat they dont get anything else ?

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I try and be led by my lo as forcing her to sit there and eat if she says she doesn't want it stresses both of us out and she flatly refuses

She's not eaten great the last few weeks , she does have a tooth coming through so I'm guessing its because of that (not that she's ever been great anyway) but she's taking a few mouthfuls then pushing it away - it's food that she likes and normally eats, then 5 mins later she's dragging me to the kitchen for something else

She's 2 1/2 so can understand things - she won't tell me why she doesn't want it

If she didnt ask for anything else then I would assume she's not hungry but yesterday she had strawberries , babybel and 2 yoghurts so she is hungry

What should I do
 
She wanted weetabix for breakfast ... 2 mouthfuls and she gave up. I fed her three more spoonfuls and refused any more. I asked her if she wanted toast- yes so I made her toast- she walked away- FFS. I told her that unless she ate some toast even a bit there was no tv .. So she has turned on her heels and gone to play in her playroom - argh

I give up
 
hi, i would say maybe start establishing more of a meal time routine? and eating with her (that is ofcourse if you dont already) and then what she leaves,she leaves.. dont fuss. then when some comes for 'snacks' just say she can have fruit but nothing 'crappy' per say as she didnt eat enough of her lunch. eventually she'll understand she needs to eat meals to enjoy a snack inbetween. we dont always eat through hunger either, she may be bored or purely just trying to be a typical 2 yr old and tell you when she wants it. but if she is asking for something then not eating it, IMO if she doesnt eat that id just let her have juice/water (whatever drink she has) and some fruit to go on until her next meal, then she'll realise that she'll have to eat what she asks for and a substantial amount at meal time .. hope tht helps
 
I'd wait till lunchtime unless she is completely relentless in needing food. Even then I would give her a lunch time meal. Maybe she isn't that hungry an just wants to play. My lo is like that when playing is just too much. Try eating meals with we to I find lo eats better when we are eating
 
To the title of the thread never, sounds threatening, dont eat what I want you to eat then punish?better to establish healthy eating, never forcing or bribbing. Teething is sore, would turn you off eating, these are normally phases. Seen it before in both mine, better not to cause stress over it. Making someone eat when not hungry is not good, negative associations with food and control need to stop.
 
My LO eats most things, so if she refuses something that I know she likes, I explain that she wont be getting anything else as she obviously isn't hungry (this is rare though). I'll give her some fruit or something later on if she then gets hungry.

It's worked for us as she eats so well and eats most food. I also find eating as a family really helps x
 
If she is pushing her food away as if she's full up but then taking you to the kitchen for something a few min after then I'd say that she is trying it on. I know teething can be a nightmare but you say she's not been eating well before this recent lot of teething so I wouldn't put it down to teething really.
You can still be led by her in that if she has a few mouthfuls but doesn't want any more then that's fine but if she then wants something else then you say no. While I agree that giving them fruit is fine I probably would still refuse the fruit. This is because both of mine love fruit and would rather eat fruit than their dinner therefore I don't think that giving them fruit is teaching them anything other then 'if you don't eat your dinner then you can still have the thing you love most anyway'.
 
We started around age 2 not offering anything else if meal wasn't eaten. I have never given a punishment for not eating (i.e. "if you don't eat this we won't go outside", etc.). But I do think if she's not eating her meal and wanting a snack 5 minutes later, then she may just prefer the snacks. I always include at least one part of the meal I know she likes (i.e. a fruit, a pasta, something she has liked before). I allow her to eat as much or as little as she likes of whatever we have offered for the meal. Then we do not have a snack for at least an hour later.

Sometimes I will leave her meal out on the table in case she wants more later. Particularly breakfast, such a toast or dry cereal - if she says she is finished and hasn't eaten much I will leave it for a while and if she asks 10 minutes later for something to eat, I tell her she can finish her breakfast but we won't be having something different, and most of the time she does eat it! Sometimes she rarely eats anything at all, but I think it's totally normal for toddlers to have phases of not eating much. I trust her to know her signs and know when she's hungry and when she's not, but I also don't intend to make separate meals for her or allow snacks instead of meals.
 
My son goes through phases of not eating and since about 15 months if he doesn't eat I just leave it, I used to get myself more stressed out than anything and just started to dread meal times. If he doesn't eat his main meal i offer him his fruit or his yoghurt and that's all until the next meal unless hes obviously really hungry
 
if its breakfast or lunch i say right no more until the next meal..
if she refuses dinner i say no pudding & she has a weetabix before bed.

she wont starve herself, she will eat if shes hungry. i give her no second option of food.
if she refuses a meal i dont make her something else. xx
 
I put 3 meals on the table and offer 2 snacks. If he refuses a meal or snack then so be it. I don't give him anything else even if he says he's hungry he has to wait until the next food time. Sounds mean but before I started doing this he barely ate his meals and just wanted snacks all day. This way he eats more of his meals.

Some days he eats very little. Yesterday he ate breakfast and half his lunch and that was it. Refused dinner and wouldn't eat again until breakfast this morning. He's eaten everything I've given him today though. They sort themselves out in the end. I let him get on with it and don't worry about it.
 
My 2yr old wen through this from 13 months and it did last until recently, it is only the past month he has started eating everything again (things he stopped eating are fruits/pastas/healthy meals) so quite alot really! It was so frustrating but we just went along with it. If your LO losing any weight? My little boy just wanted to eat things like potatos/bananas/sandwiches, was a really boring diet probably lacking in all sorts but he was adamant and that was that, i didn't force him and just stopped stressing over meal times. I would imagine the teething is really annoying her, i just didn't offer anything after meals and just gave toast before bed which he would usually eat. I also started buying haliborange vitamin liquid and put it in his drink, so vitamin wise he was abit better off.
I know its hard when they won't eat what you make and all sorts but in most toddlers, it does resolve and it won't last forever x
 
If its reheatable i offer it again a little later.

xx
 
I'm quite strict, I do NOT want a fussy eater.

If she refuses, and I do try to coddule her a bit, then meal time is over (no punishment) and she can go and play.
Then usually by the next meal time she's hungry ebough to goggle it all up.

I try to enforce good table manners and encourage her to sit nicely at the table, as I have seen too many toddlers get up and down from the table as they eat and I do not want this either.

I just figure, no child will starve themselves, as long as food is offered reguarlly I wouldn't worry xx
 
What I do depends on the situation. If she doesn't like something, or is too tired to deal with dinner, or just being particularly fussy, I try to get her to eat a bit of everything and then call her done, but if she wants a yoghurt or a fruit cup or something she has to eat at least one bit of everything.
Other nights if it's something she likes but won't eat, we just let her go without.

This happens most often at dinner time, so I try to encourage her to eat at least something, as I don't want her going to bed hungry.
 
I don't offer her anything else, ever. Last night DH and I were going to get takeout after she'd gone to bed. Just before dinner we'd gone grocery shopping and as I didn't have anything prepared to give her for dinner, we picked up one of those Gerber's toddler premade ravioli dishes. She'd never had them before. She ate one piece and refused more. She sucked down her milk, though. I was worried she'd wake up hungry, but she's been sleeping for more than 10 hours now!

I just figure if she's really hungry, she'll eat. The times she hasn't eaten, we've never had to do any early snack, so maybe she wasn't really hungry? Never know with a kid who can't talk yet lol
 
My view on this has changed a bit the past few months. I never really thought food could be such an issue. I assumed if kids were hungry they would eat. But last month Megan wouldn't eat most foods. She refused everything but yogurt, pudding, ice cream, milk, pediasure, and apple juice. She wouldn't even eat applesauce. I would make her favorites and bought her junk food like cookies and candy and she wouldn't/ couldnt eat them. I stopped offering ice cream and pudding and all she ate those days was yogurt and milk. I stopped the pediasure wondering if she would be truly starving would she eat... And she wouldnt. And she wasnt even having lots of yogurt and milk. 2 oz of milk and 2 oz of yogurt and then 2 oz again at the next meal... She was barely eating for weeks. She did start eating again after a few weeks, But it's been VERY slow going. She says "I'm eating again!" with the biggest shocked look ever on her face. I havent offered her the junk food after the first few days of her refusing that as I realized that it wasn't pickiness going on but something else. she still isn't eating things like bread, noodles, lunchmeat, etc. Wont eat hotdogs or cereal, chicken tenders, etc. Things that were a normal part of her diet before. And she will say in the evening sometimes now that she is hungry. Once last week she said she was hungry and we only gave her milk and said well then eat more at breakfast tomorrow. She woke up at 4 am saying she was hungry. I gave her a bit of milk and told her it was time to go to sleep and I went back to bed. 1/2 hr later she called to me and I went in. And she said, "mommy, I really am hungry" in a very sincere voice. I gave her some yogurt and she then went back to sleep.

When growing up I had to sit at the table until my food was gone. I said I would never make my kids finish their food and if they don't like something then they don't have to eat it. I was very picky as a child and really would have preferred to go hungry those nights that I didn't like dinner. But I never thought about the possibility that my kids might be not able to eat certain foods and what would I do when they were hungry later. Megan used to love crescent rolls, pork roast, etc. ( dinner last night) She still is not eating them. She still isn't able to eat apples or blueberries which used to be some of her favorite things. But she is willing now to eat cheese, rasberries, and applesauce. I really don't care anymore if she is picky. As long as she is eating something. I try to include things that she might eat during each meal. If she doesnt eat then I'm not bringing more food out as an alternative. But later I am offering her something else like bananas and yogurt.

So besides not making my kids finish their food at meals I'm now offering other foods later. Megan never sleeps well when she is hungry. It's been proven many times over the past few years. I don't know if my approach is right, but it was my gut tells me is the right thing to do.
 
Thanks everyone, its so hard - especially with my personal experience as a child, my parents (or rather step mother) would make me sit there until I finished it and this would be hours as I would push it around the plate, in the end she would give up and take it away - admittedly i was not a toddler but the dietician told her that she should give me what I like and not force me to eat what I didnt like. I dont want to go down this road (plus a toddler wouldnt understand this) and have really tried to be relaxed with her. I know on nursery days she is probably not hungry as she does tend to eat what they give her. The days when she is with me I can see more of what she eats and its not alot.

If she eats some of it I think it will be ok to offer fruit and yoghurts as she has made an effort, its just when she doesnt even try it im not sure. I might try and cut out snacks first and see how that goes.
 
To the title of the thread never, sounds threatening, dont eat what I want you to eat then punish?better to establish healthy eating, never forcing or bribbing. Teething is sore, would turn you off eating, these are normally phases. Seen it before in both mine, better not to cause stress over it. Making someone eat when not hungry is not good, negative associations with food and control need to stop.

It wasnt meant as a punishment, im worried that she is seeing the alternatives (fruit and yoghurts) as a nicer option if shes not too fussed about the main and knows that she will get it and therefore not eat the main, shes very small for her age and im just worried bad habits are going to form and it will be hard to sort out. :wacko:
 
If she has eaten a few bites of breakfast then I wouldn't be offering toast personally. My thing with Megan is more about going to bed hungry.

If Megan refuses what she has first said she wants for breakfast i don't ask if she wants an alternative. She can then wait til an appropriate am snack time.
 

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