2nd Tri loss due to IC anyone?

[Bride2b]

Did they never give you any test results etc or are you waiting on that? Its a bit shit you were never given an indication.

By the time I got to L&D and was examined it was 4 pm and the scanning people go home at 5pm so there wasnt time to scan me! I dont know if its because they didnt think there was much point as I think they knew it was all over for me.

 

[DueSeptember]

Did they never give you any test results etc or are you waiting on that? Its a bit shit you were never given an indication.

By the time I got to L&D and was examined it was 4 pm and the scanning people go home at 5pm so there wasnt time to scan me! I dont know if its because they didnt think there was much point as I think they knew it was all over for me.

When I got to L&D they took 2 tubes of blood and swabs...oh and made sure my water broke...The attending Doctor came in and was straight up with me he said you are 23 weeks so your baby probably will not survive if you have her now...he said BUT you may not deliver now you may deliver tomorrow or next month or in a couple of months...I delivered at 24 weeks and since she was breeched they were going to do a C-section...but it didnt happen that way because she popped her feet out while they were giving me the epidural...

Nothing came back that I had anything my Doctor said "it happens" and she was sorry...I know next time I get pregnant I will be watched carefully

 

[KamIAm]

Hate those letters... IC

I have been pregnant now 5 times.. And with each of my pregnancies they end sooner and sooner everytime.... By baby number 4, He was born at 26 weeks weighting 2.5 lbs and spent 3 months in the High Risk Nursery at our hospital, but that was 8 years ago so when I got preg with number 5, My Emma.. I honestly didn't think TOO much about it... and none of my doctors seems TOO concerned either... But by about week 14-15 contractions began, he immediately started me on 17p injections, weekly... But I still felt like something wasn't right but they wouldn't listen to me.. At the time I was working full time and going to classes, running full throttle.. Never once slowed down or took extra precautions, I kept asking them if I should or if I was Ok, but I just kept getting the same ol response of "everything is fine, it's just all in my head"....

Well, guess it wasn't cuz when I finally went into the ER, I was already dialated to 3cm..... All down hill from there....

Lesson I learned .... NEVER just take your doctor's word.... Listen to your gut and be proactive... I just sat back and listened to what they was telling me... End result... I delivered my daughter, Emma at 19 weeks ...

I have asked about the plan for my next pregnancy, they just tell me they will monitor me closer and see if I'll be a candidate for a cerclage as well as the 17p injections... MY first step is finding a different specialist and putting myself on bedrest....

I can't believe how trusting I have been with the doctor's here...

Here's to holding out to some hope and positive thoughts...

Good Luck to all that have been touched by those nasty lil letters.. IC

 

[Bride2b]

Kelly I have read so much about a mothers intuition. Its awful to think that the doctors didnt listen to you, I guess they see so many women who are worried but when there is a history you would think they are more vigilant. Were you diagnosed with IC after you had your son?

 

[Nikki_d72]

Kelly I didn't realise that you had had your son so early, I would have thought that after such a premmie you would have been classed as high risk, that's awful they didn't watch you closer. I'm so sorry hon. I would agree get a better specialist - would it be possible to look for one now, before you get pregnant? I say that because it would be nice to have a solid plan in place to make you both feel better and it would be less stressful than trying to get one when you are pregnant and maybe feeling a bit sicky? I don't know the protocol in your area though. xxx

I agree about wishing I'd found that site beforehand, but none of us could have guessed what was going to happen. I don't know why midwives etc don't educate us on these symptoms, probably beacuse then we'd all imagine them all the time and worry. It's one of the reasons I regret not knowing for certain I was carrying twins though, as I would have done my research and no doubt come across it. If only, if only... round and round.

 

[Bride2b]

I cant tell you how many times I have thought "what if." I remember consulting Dr Google when I fell pregnant to find out about how LEEP affects pregnancy, there didnt seem to be any concern from what I remember...if there was something written that was alarming I would have worried, as I am a natural worrier.

Nikki you made the decision not to have a scan based on what was right that the time. You couldnt have known that you were carrying twins. Its just so sad looking back on things that have happened to know that things could have been so different.

I am going to see a very good friend (who I dont see enough of) who has a friend who had a baby girl the week before I lost Bertie, apparently this friend had a baby at 24 weeks last year that was born sleeping. She has an IC, so my friend has got loads of info I think....its going to be helpful to know what they do in my area for IC & if they are willing to give extra care. I might be going a bit over the top as I havent even been told I have an IC but I am so damn sure I do!

 

[yellowyamyam]

Bride2B - Please do share any info from your friend as I as like you... I am 80% convinced that I have IC!

 

[Bride2b]

Of course hun! I hope she knows all the ins and outs of her friends case (that sounds terrible doesnt it) I am seeing her this afternoon so if there is anything she knows of of course I'll share!
Are you waiting results yellowyamyam? You have to remind me as my memory is shot to pieces!xx

 

[Nikki_d72]

I cant tell you how many times I have thought "what if." I remember consulting Dr Google when I fell pregnant to find out about how LEEP affects pregnancy, there didnt seem to be any concern from what I remember...if there was something written that was alarming I would have worried, as I am a natural worrier.

Nikki you made the decision not to have a scan based on what was right that the time. You couldnt have known that you were carrying twins. Its just so sad looking back on things that have happened to know that things could have been so different.

The saddest thing is I did know I was carrying twins, deep in my heart - I even said it to the Midwife on my booking in appt at only 5 or 6 weeks. As time went on I was more and more convinced (based on some logical things, instead of just some wierd hunch!), I just wish I hadn't waited for the 20 week scan to confirm it as I hadn't looked into the risks for some reason because it wasn't definite. I was too busy looking up things about VBAC and homebirth.

Maybe unless we are specifically looking for the problems that we have already encountered and thus know about then we won't often find them on Google, so maybe nothing would have come up to alert me either.

I hope you get some good info from your friend, keep us posted? xxx

 

[Bride2b]

Maybe unless we are specifically looking for the problems that we have already encountered and thus know about then we won't often find them on Google, so maybe nothing would have come up to alert me either.

I hope you get some good info from your friend, keep us posted? xxx

I totally agree, before our losses we were none the wiser...why would we be? Hindsight is a great thing if you had it when you needed it!

I was too busy researching water births & watching them on you tube!
Maybe I should have done more research on LEEP! Again "what if"

xx

 

[yellowyamyam]

I was watching One Born Every Minute every night (online)! Deciding if hypnobirthing is worth it ... I even bought a book on it from Amazon which came 2 days after our loss.

Bride2b - Yes, I am waiting for lab results on placenta and 2nd round of blood tests. I have appointment with some 2nd tri losses specialist on 7th March.

A friend told me that God wouldn't let it happen to you if He knows you can't take it. I do feel much stronger as a person after what I went through, though it was just barely 3 weeks ago. All the 'What Ifs' ... we will literally go crazy if we dwell too much into that, yes?

 

[Bride2b]

Ok so I am back from seeing my friend. I dont know if its a coincidence but as I was driving over to her house I saw a rainbow!!!!

She had told her friend about me and her friend had told her to tell me to push for getting a stitch and to be monitored for IC.

She had twin boys 7 years ago (born at 28 weeks I think) then last Nov at 22ish weeks she gave birth to another boy. They found no infections or anything. She told the consultants she had read about IC & asked if that was the cause, they said maybe but were not really forthcoming at offering any strategic way forward. My friend didnt know the ins and outs (unfortunately) but said she had to really push for them to look at her cervix. They seemed quite dismissive that 'yes it might be & no it might not' and probably wouldnt have done anything if she hadnt have pushed. She thinks she was given a cerclage at 12 weeks (sounds early but I know this is the earliest they will do it). At some point they must have measured her cervix as it seems that she had hardly any measurement. Anyway she wasnt put on bed rest or anything, but ended up giving birth to her daughter at 33 weeks as she was having pains & twinges. They hooked her up and found she was having contractions, so they gave her a steroid shot & removed the stitch. She then had a c-section. Her baby spend two weeks in the special care bay unit but was absolutely fine. Now for the spooky bit....her daughter arrived as I said at 33 weeks, 7 weeks early, the day she arrived was the very same day that one year before that she had her baby boy that she lost! She called her baby girl Angel.

 

[yellowyamyam]

Wow the story is really interesting.

I guess you really have to push for what you believe. Doctors might have seen it and have it all (types of pregnant women) but to us, individually, we are different. We might be paranoid especially after losing our babies too soon; I really wish doctors would be more sympathetic but then on the other hand, to entertain every whine and cry seem quite an impossible job!

I'm glad she has a happy ending to her pregnancy with Angel.

 

[Bride2b]

Yes I agree! I think it's amazing she had her baby the same day as she lost her son,think its fate! It gives hope though that if it is diagnosed there could still be a happy ending x

 

[Nikki_d72]

I don't have a definite diagnosis either but they thought it was a possibility, though thought to be solely because of twins. I had no cramps or contractions until 6 days after my waters broke when my body them went into labour so I did dilate silently - I was 3cm by the time I got to the hospital, but that was the afternoon af the next day after the waters had gone, as I had to get choppered down there due to closed roads (snow). In hindsight I had some small signs - I lost one snotty clump that would have been plug and started to get a watery discharge but just put it down to pregnancy. I had BH all the time from about 8 weeks, painless though but pretty constant.

I think if you experienced CTX then it may be more a case of prem labour proper but they don't seem to be able to differentiate very well. I've seen progesterone mentioned as a potential treatment to prevent but I don't think it's proven.

In my next pregnancy I have been promised an early scan as soon as possible after a BFP, then cervical monitoring weekly from 10 weeks, and cerclage placed immediately if any change is detected. I will also be demanding swabs too, though I know my OB is quite resistant to giving antib's but I'll fight that fight if I ever get to that stage, he's quite approachable and will negotiate. I could always just go to my own GP and pay for them - I will if I have to. I have also read that the risk of loss due to IC is greatest between 16 and I think 28 weeks? As this is when the weight of the baby is enough to cause the cervix to open and after that the baby is big enough to block it's own exit.
HTH
xxx

What is CTX? Can't figure that out? Thanks for sharing,glad you have a plan of action in place...good advice I think with the swabs. I hadn't thought that after 28 weeks that baby will block the opening,I had wondered why it decreased.

Thanks Hun x

Sorry just realised I never answered your question! CTX is contractions.
xx

 

[blav]

Mateo was born on October 29, if I get pregnant next month instead of this month, my due date would be at the beginning of November, which means the chance of having our rainbow on the same day or very close to the day we had our angel is high. Buuut, I'd rather just get pg this month and not worry about it

My doctor said they will do my cerclage at 12 weeks. I'm glad that I have a doctor who is so cautious and doesn't take a wait and see approach. I'll probably also be requesting the progesterone injections as well. Can't be too safe at this point.

 

[Bride2b]

Britney did you have a low progesterone? I was also wondering if I should ask about this too, as I come to understand that having the progesterone & cerclage is like extra protection? Do you know much about it?

I have calculated too that if we wait until the cycle after next (so beginning of March) and fall I will be due about the same time (days) of when Bertie was born. I wont try this month as its too soon, and think the consultant will say this. Then the Feb cycle...if it happens then its a bonus (just hope I fit in my wedding dress as would be about 25 weeks!). I think I want to get my BFP ideally in March and I think it will be quite nice to have a baby around the same time as Bertie - that way no one can ever forget him. Not that I ever will, but it will be a little birthday present for him xx

 

[Tia30]

It's very frustrating waiting on answers from Doctors after something so terrible happens to you. It leaves you in the arena of guessing, self diagnosing and generally driving yourself ever so slightly insane with the compulsion to get pregnant as quickly as possible with the added pressure of fear of the unknown cause of your loss (if we are lucky to find one).

I'm waiting on a letter for an appointment to get the results of the post mortem, whilst knowing that I have an abnormal womb and yet when I speak to the delivery suite they tell me this uterus is not even considered to be high risk, she (said midwife) had one herself and it's not that 'uncommon'...

I feel like a moan. I am going back to work soon where I will watch other women having children who get swiftly removed and fostered and eventually adopted due to chaotic lifestyles... I am not case managing anyone at the moment as I manage a service but I do feel slightly bitter about this which is a little shameful.

I'm sorry to hear about everyone else's losses on here. It's a very sad thing to lose your baby, I think I am still getting over the shock and walk around in a daze most of the time. I has only been 12 days since I gave birth but it's like time is standing still for me. I have a beautiful niece - 9 months old, but I feel guilty every time I pick her up, I wish she was my baby - crazy isn't it.

And I keep going to the baby aisles - bad habits, I'm aware I'm no longer pregnant but I want to be

I even got rid of my mini and got a family car with a bigger boot and 5 doors. All these reminders... Anyway my partner wants to try again asap and I am not planning on doing anything to prevent myself getting pregnant.

I just hope to god this doesn't happen again... to any of us

 

[blav]

Britney did you have a low progesterone? I was also wondering if I should ask about this too, as I come to understand that having the progesterone & cerclage is like extra protection? Do you know much about it?

I have calculated too that if we wait until the cycle after next (so beginning of March) and fall I will be due about the same time (days) of when Bertie was born. I wont try this month as its too soon, and think the consultant will say this. Then the Feb cycle...if it happens then its a bonus (just hope I fit in my wedding dress as would be about 25 weeks!). I think I want to get my BFP ideally in March and I think it will be quite nice to have a baby around the same time as Bertie - that way no one can ever forget him. Not that I ever will, but it will be a little birthday present for him xx

I didn't have low progesterone but it's something my doctor suggested and talked about at our follow up appointment. We discussed how they're pretty certain everything was caused by IC but there isn't a way to know for absolute sure that I didn't just go into pre-term labor. The progesterone injections help prevent pre-term labor. I kind of feel like, the cerclage will help the IC and the progesterone would help the early labor (if that's what it was, but can't hurt really). I know that the injections are weekly and have been shown to reduce early labor. My doctor suggested starting them between 16 and 18 (if I remember right) and then ending them at 30 something weeks. I'll be going in almost weekly for the cervix measurements so it wouldn't be an extra hassle really.

 

[yellowyamyam]

I agree with Tia 100%. It is ridiculous for us to sit and wait around for 6-8 weeks to see a consultant to get results on WHY it happened. I will be flying back to Malaysia next week and have an appointment booked to see mom's friend, an OBGYN. She was the one who prescribed me with Clomid last August. I just want to thank her personally for the prescription because she did it without seeing me! I did email her in detail of my PCOS/ recent blood & scans results that time.

I see her this time, I don't have any lab results for her to indicate what caused the miscarriage. All I can think of is draft out questions of the WHAT IFs situations for future pregnancy. Maybe get her guidance about IC - if I have an IC, what kind of treatment I should seek for here in London; what kind of support I should get from the NHS, etc.