4dpo symptoms or going mental?

[nputt64424]

I've been ttc for nearly 5 months. My youngest son was born almost 9 years ago and my memory is failing me in regards to how I felt...probably because he wasn't planned so I wasn't symptom spotting like I am now. I used to just look at DH and get pregnant. It just happened so easily. Now, not so much.

So...before any naysayers rear their ugly heads and say things like "you're not feeling any symptoms, its too early" or "implantation cannot happen before x number of days"...just stop. I have been in the medical/laboratory field for years...and one thing I know is, there are no absolutes. So negative nancy's stay away because you will promptly be put in your place.

Some background:
My luteal is normally 10-13 days. I know 10 is on the short side, but my doctor is fine with it, and I've always been this way, so I'm not worried about that.
Cycle is 28-32 days which is still considered regular. I have massive jumps in my cycles.
For the past several months I have not had EWCM or really any CM at all. Its gone between watery and very little that is thick and sticky a few days before AF.
I am not temping or using OPKs, I do track O using symptoms and a tracker app.

So, I am currently about 4dpo, I am guessing. My normal symptoms after O are tender bb's but not nips, no CM (it becomes dry or just very little watery), my cervix are normally medium, medium firm, and slightly open (and they always remain slightly open which is normal for women who have given birth before). I am not usually emotional until 3 days before AF (I get weepy, anxious, and down right bitchy).

My symptoms are currently as follows:
Fatigue
very mild tugging in my pelvic area (I do remember this with my youngest son and remember reading it can happen earlier in women that have been pregnant before because the body remembers and begins preparing earlier)
My cervix are higher than they've ever been, and my CM is more than abundant especially for me, its milky/creamy but not super thick and its sort of stretchy, and my cervix are in between firm and soft and very very closed.
I am going to the bathroom like every hour without increasing my fluid intake.

I guess what I am looking for is maybe a TWW buddy, BFP's where you had early symptoms, early bfp's (like 7-10dpo) etc. Share your stories. FX for everyone and baby dust to all!!

 

[lilmisscaviar]

Your hormones start to change from the moment of conception even though hcg isn't being produced yet so, yes, it is very possible to have symptoms. Fatigue is always one of the first signs of pregnancy for me. Good luck and lots of baby dust!

 

[Lovn.sunshine]

4dpo here with a slim chance of a BFP but still holding out some hope. Had some pinching earlier and tons of cm.

I got my faint positive with my daughter at 7dpo and a clear as day positive at 8dpo. My first symptom was being overly tired and that started around 5-6dpo. After that, it was mostly just normal pre-af symptoms

We'll see how this cycle goes. I'm a notorious early tester but I'll try to hold out. AF is due Christmas day so FX! And good luck to you!

 

[LuLu15]

Can I be your buddy too? Lol I'm 3dpo. Been trying for 5 mo the as well, have a 7 yr old boy and 1 yr old girl. Would like a third to complete our little family. I have been feeling a lot of pressure/slight af cramping. Which usually doesn't happen until closer towards af arriving. I will start testing very soon even though I know I should wait lol. I don't remember having any symptoms from my daughter but just realizing my af was late and took a test, kinda similar with my son realized I was 'late' (I had never kept track until recently when ttc) took the test and was positive as well. So noticing symptoms is weird and unusual to me. Fx for bfp for the holiday season for everyone!! Would love a September baby because my dad brother and mother in law (who passed not too long ago) were all born in September! Baby dust to all!!

 

[nputt64424]

Lulu...of course you can be my buddy. Its good to have other ladies to share with that are experiencing the trials of TTC and the TWW...that way we don't drive our DH's insane along with ourselves haha. I will be testing on the 23rd unless AF comes that day. I will most likely try and early response as well BFN disappointment be damned! It give me something to do while I wait and if I get a BFP then woot woot! haha

If AF comes then I think I am going to try B6 to lengthen my luteal. I've had a complete hormone work up and had my thyroid checked and I am all good...so the only thing I would think that could keep me from getting pg is a short luteal. I think mine is fine and my doctor doesn't see an issue, but it wouldn't hurt for it to be longer.

Keep me updated on your symptoms. Mine haven't changed. I forgot to add in my original post that my nips are killing me. The sides of my bb's are tender, but not terrible...but my nips are permahard and hurt like hell. Usually I never get tender nips as I was in a car accident after augmentation and lost a bit of feeling in them. Normally around O and after for about a week, both of my entire breasts hurt and feel like huge rocks. This time they feel full, but its mostly the darn nips that are killing me. I'm a stomach sleeper and its painful to sleep that way right now.

Fx for you and everyone going through this, and lots of prayers and good vibes being sent your way!

 

[nputt64424]

Lulu...of course you can be my buddy. Its good to have other ladies to share with that are experiencing the trials of TTC and the TWW...that way we don't drive our DH's insane along with ourselves haha. I will be testing on the 23rd unless AF comes that day. I will most likely try and early response as well BFN disappointment be damned! It give me something to do while I wait and if I get a BFP then woot woot! haha

If AF comes then I think I am going to try B6 to lengthen my luteal. I've had a complete hormone work up and had my thyroid checked and I am all good...so the only thing I would think that could keep me from getting pg is a short luteal. I think mine is fine and my doctor doesn't see an issue, but it wouldn't hurt for it to be longer.

Keep me updated on your symptoms. Mine haven't changed. I forgot to add in my original post that my nips are killing me. The sides of my bb's are tender, but not terrible...but my nips are permahard and hurt like hell. Usually I never get tender nips as I was in a car accident after augmentation and lost a bit of feeling in them. Normally around O and after for about a week, both of my entire breasts hurt and feel like huge rocks. This time they feel full, but its mostly the darn nips that are killing me. I'm a stomach sleeper and its painful to sleep that way right now.

Fx for you and everyone going through this, and lots of prayers and good vibes being sent your way!

 

[nputt64424]

Good luck to you as well, and thank you!
I test constantly...heck, I've tested right after AF like a crazy person, hoping the short AF was maybe implantation haha. I hate wondering. I am an impatient person when it comes to this. I think if and when I get a BFP finally I will be dancing, quite badly I might add, around my whole house. Its really frustrating to go from being fertile as can be and not even trying to having to do all this work, but its so very worth it!!
Blessings to you. Keep me updated on your journey please

 

[Miskas mommy]

May i join you? I am about 10 dpo.. Going to start testing tommorrow... I have had crazy sore bbs since about 2dpo.. Had some pain right above my hip today, it was strange... And my eyes have been watering like crazy since about 2dpo..it's so weird.. I have been googling it, but I can't find anything that says that it could be a sign.. Fxed it is.. We have been trying for 2 years, I would love a Christmas bfp!!

 

[nputt64424]

May i join you? I am about 10 dpo.. Going to start testing tommorrow... I have had crazy sore bbs since about 2dpo.. Had some pain right above my hip today, it was strange... And my eyes have been watering like crazy since about 2dpo..it's so weird.. I have been googling it, but I can't find anything that says that it could be a sign.. Fxed it is.. We have been trying for 2 years, I would love a Christmas bfp!!

I was thinking the same thing...Christmas BFP would be the best gift!!
I have never heard of what you're describing as a symptom, however that doesn't mean it isn't. Many women have symptoms that make them think they have the flu, or a cold, or allergies. So if you have pregnancy related sinus trouble, this could present itself as runny/watery eyes. Another thing I didn't mention in my earlier post (maybe I have mommy mush brain), is that I am super emotional right now. That usually doesn't happen until a few days before AF, and even then its mild. I have cried my eyes out over the dumbest things haha. FX for us both. Keep me updated please and than you for joining in!

 

[Miskas mommy]

I will for sure. I am still having some odd pressure I guess I would call it.. In my pelvic region... And in the car yesterday I had this weird sharpish pain like above my cervix.. I don't know if that makes sense... Really hoping this is it! GL to everyone.. Fxed crazy symptoms are a good sign.

 

[HopefulBee]

I'm fairly new to early pregnancy symptoms but I've talked to my OBGYN and made sure to read credible sources. To be honest, everyone's body is different. I think some of us are a bit to hard on others for reasons we'll never understand. I would just recommend jotting down what your feeling. It's good to keep a record. I'll be 9 dpo tomorrow and I've had severe breast pain for 8 days straight! Now, I normally have breast pain closer to AF never this far away from it or for this long. Oh and I actually measured my bust because I think my partner thinks I'm making this stuff up. Lol Nope...I'm 1 inch before than I was from this morning.

 

[LuLu15]

Been super emotional today... Not sure if other factors affect that like work and selling this house but it's way different than normal! I really hope this I it for us!! I can't talk only so much to my dh and then he thinks I'm crazy and doesn't listen. I'm glad I have you ladies!!!

 

[dinky]

Hi can I join? 4dpo today confirmed by opks and temping. I'm trying for my 3rd, I have a 5 year old and a 2 year old. I fell pregnant by accident in July but lost it at the end of august so now I've decided I do want a 3rd! According to ff af is due on the 23rd but I'm a poas addict and I think I'll start testing around 7dpo! I need to be careful tho as I only have 8 tests left! I did have tender boobs after o, I always do and they normally stay tender until af but today they don't hurt anymore I'm wondering if that's because the egg didn't get fertilised? Does anyone know if there's any evidence on this? Maybe reading too much into things but I always do lol

 

[Miskas mommy]

ok this is the weirdest thing that has ever happened.. my cycles are always at least 30-32 days.. today is CD27.. 11dpo and i just started bleeding... WTF???? like bright red.. never how my AF starts.. its always brownish first then turns red.. This is bright red to start.... it is way to early for AF to be here!!

 

[nputt64424]

I've been ttc for nearly 5 months. My youngest son was born almost 9 years ago and my memory is failing me in regards to how I felt...probably because he wasn't planned so I wasn't symptom spotting like I am now. I used to just look at DH and get pregnant. It just happened so easily. Now, not so much.

So...before any naysayers rear their ugly heads and say things like "you're not feeling any symptoms, its too early" or "implantation cannot happen before x number of days"...just stop. I have been in the medical/laboratory field for years...and one thing I know is, there are no absolutes. So negative nancy's stay away because you will promptly be put in your place.

Some background:
My luteal is normally 10-13 days. I know 10 is on the short side, but my doctor is fine with it, and I've always been this way, so I'm not worried about that.
Cycle is 28-32 days which is still considered regular. I have massive jumps in my cycles.
For the past several months I have not had EWCM or really any CM at all. Its gone between watery and very little that is thick and sticky a few days before AF.
I am not temping or using OPKs, I do track O using symptoms and a tracker app.

So, I am currently about 4dpo, I am guessing. My normal symptoms after O are tender bb's but not nips, no CM (it becomes dry or just very little watery), my cervix are normally medium, medium firm, and slightly open (and they always remain slightly open which is normal for women who have given birth before). I am not usually emotional until 3 days before AF (I get weepy, anxious, and down right bitchy).

My symptoms are currently as follows:
Fatigue
very mild tugging in my pelvic area (I do remember this with my youngest son and remember reading it can happen earlier in women that have been pregnant before because the body remembers and begins preparing earlier)
My cervix are higher than they've ever been, and my CM is more than abundant especially for me, its milky/creamy but not super thick and its sort of stretchy, and my cervix are in between firm and soft and very very closed.
I am going to the bathroom like every hour without increasing my fluid intake.

I guess what I am looking for is maybe a TWW buddy, BFP's where you had early symptoms, early bfp's (like 7-10dpo) etc. Share your stories. FX for everyone and baby dust to all!!

*Update 5dpo: No change really, except I have had a bit of nausea and was so hungry I ate half a jar of pickles and drank the juice (this isn't unusual though hahaha I love me some pickles). I usually won't pay much attention to nausea as a sign because this is just as frequently caused by post O progesterone spike. I am looking for things that are out of the ordinary for me. So far the biggest symptom I have that is unusual is the CM. I have even more of it today and it is thicker and even more stretchy. Like...I was so fascinated by it I took a picture of it hahaha. Thats gross, but whatever. That is how out of the ordinary this cm is for me, especially at this point in my cycle when I am normally watery or dry. I have never in my life had this much or this type of CM. When I O'd it was stretchy but not thick and it was scant (I used pre-seed as a back up because it was so scant.) This CM is thick, opaque/whitish, and stretchy. I am baffled by it haha. I am hoping this is a sign of being pg or perhaps at the very least, my body catching up with my brain in terms of wanting a baby so perhaps next cycle it will be ready. I've had sharp pains randomly in my cervix, like an electrical shock, and my cx was tender when I checked my cm, which is unusual. My BB's don't really feel sore today...although my nips are still a bit tender. Not as tender as they were though so I am hoping this isn't a bad sign that I am not maintaining the appropriate levels of progesterone for implantation. I guess one other funky thing that I've not experienced before that happened today is I had to walk 2 short flights of stairs and I became so winded, and my heart was pounding and when it finally calmed I felt like I could just fall asleep where I was sitting. I am a curvy woman, but not overweight or unhealthy and I while you won't catch me running unless something is chasing me...I am not normally winded like that from such a small amount of exertion.

I will say...I went out and bought 6 tests today lmao. I want to track every day...because I am a crazy person apparently.

What about everyone else...how are you all getting on?

 

[nputt64424]

Your hormones start to change from the moment of conception even though hcg isn't being produced yet so, yes, it is very possible to have symptoms. Fatigue is always one of the first signs of pregnancy for me. Good luck and lots of baby dust!

Did you get a BFP today?!! Congrats!

 

[nputt64424]

Been super emotional today... Not sure if other factors affect that like work and selling this house but it's way different than normal! I really hope this I it for us!! I can't talk only so much to my dh and then he thinks I'm crazy and doesn't listen. I'm glad I have you ladies!!!

DH's always think we ttc ladies are a bit batty...and we most likely are haha.

 

[nputt64424]

ok this is the weirdest thing that has ever happened.. my cycles are always at least 30-32 days.. today is CD27.. 11dpo and i just started bleeding... WTF???? like bright red.. never how my AF starts.. its always brownish first then turns red.. This is bright red to start.... it is way to early for AF to be here!!

Cycles can always vary by a few days without being considered irregular, however if this is highly unusual for you then perhaps its implantation bleeding. I have 3 sons and have been pregnant a total of 7 times and never once had implantation bleeding myself, so this is not something I have experience with. If it was a lot of blood, I would say its AF, if its very scant and doesn't last for more than couple of days it might be IB. Test in a couple of days with an early response. If it was implantation a test MAY pick up on low levels of hcG. Baby dust and fx!!

 

[nputt64424]

Hi can I join? 4dpo today confirmed by opks and temping. I'm trying for my 3rd, I have a 5 year old and a 2 year old. I fell pregnant by accident in July but lost it at the end of august so now I've decided I do want a 3rd! According to ff af is due on the 23rd but I'm a poas addict and I think I'll start testing around 7dpo! I need to be careful tho as I only have 8 tests left! I did have tender boobs after o, I always do and they normally stay tender until af but today they don't hurt anymore I'm wondering if that's because the egg didn't get fertilised? Does anyone know if there's any evidence on this? Maybe reading too much into things but I always do lol

Of course you can join! The more, the merrier.
I am actually experiencing the same thing. My bb's always hurt really bad and feel like rocks the day of O until AF. This time by bb's haven't been sore but the nips have. Today they hurt noticeably less. Now...there are a few reasons this could be. 1) They could begin hurting after O as normal and then stop if not enough progesterone is being produced to allow for implantation, 2) They could begin hurting as they normally do, and then stop as you approach implantation and will begin hurting again as more hormones are produced by pregnancy, or 3) Your early pregnancy symptoms may be a lack of symptoms.

Some women that normally had painful bb's say when they were pregnant they didn't hurt at all. Their symptoms of early pregnancy was the absence of their normal O and AF symptoms.

I bought several hpt's today myself and plan on testing like crazy. First one I did today just for the heck of it and BFN. I'm not discouraged because I'm 5dpo and that is far too early lol.

 

[dinky]

Thank you for that! I hope it's number 2 or 3 lol. They feel more full but don't hurt like they normally do. Also I'm having weird pains where my ovaries are, it's like af cramps except not in the middle, it's on both sides where my hips are and also my thighs are aching like they do when I'm having heavy painful af. It's really strange. I have to admit, I've also tested today. I have no idea why I know it's way too early at 4dpo and I've gone and wasted a test but I just needed to scratch that itch!