American ladies.. who do you think will win the election?

[daneuse27]

You don't have to reveal who you're voting for if you don't want to, I'm just curious to see who you think will come out the winner.

 

[Ozzieshunni]

Obama is already ahead in the electoral vote. I think he'll win. He should win.

 

[Quackquack99]

Obama. And I'm not american

 

[TriChick]

Obama. Dear God I hope.

 

[Tasha]

Not American but I think Obama too x

 

[CalliesMOM]

I hope it's not Obama.

 

[Ozzieshunni]

Obama is better than the other twat, lol.

 

[CalliesMOM]

Obama is better than the other twat, lol.

I disagree I guess he's good if you want to become a socialist country.

 

[Ozzieshunni]

Obama is better than the other twat, lol.

I disagree I guess he's good if you want to become a socialist country.

I have to say, living in the UK, it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

 

[baby D]

Obama is better than the other twat, lol.

I disagree I guess he's good if you want to become a socialist country.

I have to say, living in the UK, it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

 

[Ozzieshunni]

I mean, Alex sees a top cardiologist. I can't complain. He's actually seen cases of Alex's condition and we don't have to pay an arm and a leg to see him!

 

[louandivy]

Uk isn't a socialist country though?

Oh and I really hope Obama wins. Mitt Romney seems like a fucking nutcase, I really don't understand the appeal to anyone who isn't very wealthy in voting for him, especially if you're a woman.

 

[Ozzieshunni]

We have socialised medicine. That's what people mean in the us.

 

[Tasha]

I would vote for Vermin Supreme if I was there

Kidding, but I do want his hat

 

[CalliesMOM]

I do have a question for you UK ladies...as I don't know a whole lot about the taxing over there...is it alot? I just don't like the idea of me having to foot the bill for everyones healthcare who are unwilling to work. I hate to say it but a lot of Americans are lazy and live off of the welfare system. They take their food stamp money and buy cigarettes and booze. From reading the forum I see alot of people from the UK who are just barely getting by even with both people working, Im wondering if its the taxes that make it like that.

Im against Obamacare a 100%. I have chronic illnesses and the healthcare will have to ultimatelt regulate who can get covered for certain procedures. We do have a friend who lives in the UK who has a problem that flares every few years. There is a simple surgery that he could have done to fix it but they won't allow him to get it since they can treat him when it flares. I dont agree with that. Quality of life means something. Also with reading the forums..I'm glad that when I gave birth I was able to have my own room. I couldn't have handled having to share with another woman. But thats just me. I really am curious. Not trying to start a war of words.

 

[alaskagrown]

Obama

 

[Harley Quinn]

I do have a question for you UK ladies...as I don't know a whole lot about the taxing over there...is it alot? I just don't like the idea of me having to foot the bill for everyones healthcare who are unwilling to work. I hate to say it but a lot of Americans are lazy and live off of the welfare system. They take their food stamp money and buy cigarettes and booze. From reading the forum I see alot of people from the UK who are just barely getting by even with both people working, Im wondering if its the taxes that make it like that.

Im against Obamacare a 100%. I have chronic illnesses and the healthcare will have to ultimatelt regulate who can get covered for certain procedures. We do have a friend who lives in the UK who has a problem that flares every few years. There is a simple surgery that he could have done to fix it but they won't allow him to get it since they can treat him when it flares. I dont agree with that. Quality of life means something. Also with reading the forums..I'm glad that when I gave birth I was able to have my own room. I couldn't have handled having to share with another woman. But thats just me. I really am curious. Not trying to start a war of words.

I'm a born and bred American now living in Canada, and I can say without a doubt that I prefer this medical system. It's taken some getting used to, but I can no longer imagine living in a country where some people don't consider going to the ER if they are seriously injured because they don't have insurance. That is just nuts.

Anyway, I found this article comparing marginal tax rates on average income workers by country. It's from 2010.

US = 27%
UK = 32%
Canada = 31.2%

All three countries are among the top six lowest worldwide, so it is possible to have a relatively low tax rate and have a working socialized medical system. It's really not as scary as it sounds. And I had my own room all throughout my labour and delivery, and the only thing I had to pay for was parking.

And to answer the original question... I also think Obama will win. Don't think Romney's done enough to take away the votes he needs. Obama's got the edge as the incumbent.

 

[mummy3]

I prefer romney to obama

 

[Tasha]

I do have a question for you UK ladies...as I don't know a whole lot about the taxing over there...is it alot? I just don't like the idea of me having to foot the bill for everyones healthcare who are unwilling to work. I hate to say it but a lot of Americans are lazy and live off of the welfare system. They take their food stamp money and buy cigarettes and booze. From reading the forum I see alot of people from the UK who are just barely getting by even with both people working, Im wondering if its the taxes that make it like that.

Im against Obamacare a 100%. I have chronic illnesses and the healthcare will have to ultimatelt regulate who can get covered for certain procedures. We do have a friend who lives in the UK who has a problem that flares every few years. There is a simple surgery that he could have done to fix it but they won't allow him to get it since they can treat him when it flares. I dont agree with that. Quality of life means something. Also with reading the forums..I'm glad that when I gave birth I was able to have my own room. I couldn't have handled having to share with another woman. But thats just me. I really am curious. Not trying to start a war of words.

I think Harley answered about the taxes, it isnt much more than you pay now but I will say I dont think it is that, personally feel it is the cost of living that makes it difficult for some UK families. For instance my rent of a three bedroom flat (third floor) on a socail housing estate (but it is not socially owned any more) is £1500 or roughly $2400 (although we do have exceptionally high rent here as we are not far from Heathrow London, I think most places would pay about £800/$1300 for a three bed outside of big cities). I have talked with some American ladies on here before and they were surprised at the cost of childcare, one child in nursery aged four and under around here costs about (average) £60 so $94. Our gas costs £6.32 a gallon, so roughly $11 (not sure how much yours cost). So taking just those three into consideration, and we would spend roughly £2900 a month (4643 US dollars). When you consider many people are on minimum wage (£6.19 an hour/$9.9) and with most people working 39 hours a week, so earning £241 ($385) before tax. They would be earning roughly £1050 ($1681) a month and then two of them on those wages, well you can see why it is not do-able. Plus they wouldnt be
entitled to much help, if any, with a joint income of £25k (roughly $40k).

If I was your friend, then I would keep pushing to get it sorted. Sometimes you just have to find the right person to refer you. And of course there is the option to take out private healthcare as well, this isnt very expensive.

As for giving birth, I have never seen a shared room labour ward. I have had five babies and all of them I have delivered in my own room (aside from one where it was in theatre). One hospital I went onto a ward after (three other people) but the rest have been individual rooms.

I hope that helps you to understand a little of our system, without any bashing of yours

 

[louandivy]

We have socialised medicine. That's what people mean in the us.

That is purely what they mean when they say Obama will turn the US into a socialist country?!

I just honestly don't understand the appeal of Mitt Romney. The whole '47%' thing, saying in the debate that the government does not create jobs - does he even WANT to be president? I liked the description of him being the real life version of the rich asshole in a 1980's high school comedy