Anyone doing FET/IVF in Jan 2013 till everyone's BFP (Everyone Welcome)

[Turkey16]

Ali: You may have to do BCP then overlap with lupron kind of like in a full IVF cycle. That would be my best educated guess but I am not entirely 100% sure. Hopefully your results say otherwise and maybe it was just a cyst! But you are right, if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, then its probably a duck. Just hoping for you otherwise.

Yep.. I'm still hoping.. but I doubt it will be. I hope I don't have to do the whole BCP and Lupron! Course at this point I'd rather do the full on course than have to keep failing and adding more stuff on each time!

Either way, you're still moving forward, doing what's right to finally get your BFP. It's on the way and its gonna be awesome!!! All this craziness will seem like a small price to pay...hoping for positive news bloodwork-wise,but if its a duck, then it's a duck! Onward & upward!!! xoxox

 

[Turkey16]

So...I had my check-up this morning, I'm 4dp3dt. I was psyched to see my actual primary doc whom I LOVE! He also did my transfer which was sooo nice! Anyway he told me that my transfer was one of the smoothest he'd ever done. This was encouraging for sure. Then when he did my u/s he said something like "your body's reaction is not commensurate with your age...it's more on line with a 32-year old"...again, super encouraging. Then he looked at my ovaries (particularly the left...where the majority of my follicles came from) and he said they were quite full of fluid. He had a weird look on his face...not worried so much, just odd. He asked if I feel bloated or full, and other than being seriously backed up (sorry TMI...it's the damn progesterone!!) I told him no. He told me that he wanted me to start weighing myself and that if I gained 3-4 lbs over the next couple of days to call the office. He started talking about ovary stimulation, blood flow and fluid retention and I couldn't help but glaze over! Not intentionally, but I just have no clue what he's talking about!!! (Paging Dr. Ali!!). When he was done I asked him if everything was ok overall and he assured me it was...he almost seemed psyched...I've been a googling fiend, and all I see are articles on OHSS....I honestly feel fine and have none of the symptoms they warn us about...anybody have any insight??

**JUST GOT BLOODWORK:
BLOOD LEVELS:

E2 Level: 1566

P4 Level: >40.0
Continue daily weights, If you notice a weight gain of 4 lbs please contact the office.

Now I'm REALLY clueless!! Is this good, bad or indifferent??

 

[L4hope]

I hope you didn't ovulate Ali. But, if you did I'm guessing you'll have to do bcp and Lupron. That's what I've had to do with all of my IVF/FET cycles...sorry! Hope you get good news at 2:00!

 

[alicatt]

So...I had my check-up this morning, I'm 4dp3dt. I was psyched to see my actual primary doc whom I LOVE! He also did my transfer which was sooo nice! Anyway he told me that my transfer was one of the smoothest he'd ever done. This was encouraging for sure. Then when he did my u/s he said something like "your body's reaction is not commensurate with your age...it's more on line with a 32-year old"...again, super encouraging. Then he looked at my ovaries (particularly the left...where the majority of my follicles came from) and he said they were quite full of fluid. He had a weird look on his face...not worried so much, just odd. He asked if I feel bloated or full, and other than being seriously backed up (sorry TMI...it's the damn progesterone!!) I told him no. He told me that he wanted me to start weighing myself and that if I gained 3-4 lbs over the next couple of days to call the office. He started talking about ovary stimulation, blood flow and fluid retention and I couldn't help but glaze over! Not intentionally, but I just have no clue what he's talking about!!! (Paging Dr. Ali!!). When he was done I asked him if everything was ok overall and he assured me it was...he almost seemed psyched...I've been a googling fiend, and all I see are articles on OHSS....I honestly feel fine and have none of the symptoms they warn us about...anybody have any insight??

Paging Dr. Ali! Too funny! Yes OHSS is what he was worried about, but like most Dr's they don't want to give you a name because they know you will just go and use Dr. Google! So yes, he was probably worried about OHSS, it is where the ovaries are hyper stimulated and it causes your cell walls to collapse and the fluid to leak out and then it accumulates in your abdomen, and you gain like a lot of weight overnight. It can back up and cause you to have trouble breathing, and all sorts of other nice feelings!

If you feel fine, then go with that, but if you do start feeling bloated, or your pants don't fit or you suddenly gain 5 lbs overnight, then it is a cause for concern. If you are 7dpo (4dp3dt) then you are probably in the clear. UNLESS you are pregnant. The OHSS is stimulated by the hyperstimulation of the ovaries, then further exacerbated by HCG! So IF you are pregnant, that HCG level should be rising starting as soon as yesterday and continue to do so. So if you get worse, I'd POAS

If you do start getting worse, definitely call your FS, but things you can do to prevent it: keep hydrated, and eat protein, and if you get bloated just eat several small meals (of mostly protein) during the day.

 

[alicatt]

I hope you didn't ovulate Ali. But, if you did I'm guessing you'll have to do bcp and Lupron. That's what I've had to do with all of my IVF/FET cycles...sorry! Hope you get good news at 2:00!

Thanks L4, I remember you saying that you did this for your FET's as well as IVF, so I was a little surprised when he decided to skip that part and go with just estrogen. I wonder why some women have this issue while others don't?

 

[MoBaby]

I dont do BCP or lupron as part of my protocol. Just the estrace then progesterone. I did BCP this time only because of my lining issue. There are so many different protocols out there. I like the less meds the better!! When will you hear something Ali??

Turkey: It does seem late for OHSS unless like Ali said you are preggers!! Fx for you Hope you dont get bloated or anything.

 

[Em260]

Sandy - ooh your wtf appt is coming up. Can't wait to hear your next steps.

Ali - fx for your blood work. Hopefully it's not a duck!

Turkey - I hope you can stave off OHSS! It's good that they are on top of it and can monitor you closely.

 

[Turkey16]

So...I had my check-up this morning, I'm 4dp3dt. I was psyched to see my actual primary doc whom I LOVE! He also did my transfer which was sooo nice! Anyway he told me that my transfer was one of the smoothest he'd ever done. This was encouraging for sure. Then when he did my u/s he said something like "your body's reaction is not commensurate with your age...it's more on line with a 32-year old"...again, super encouraging. Then he looked at my ovaries (particularly the left...where the majority of my follicles came from) and he said they were quite full of fluid. He had a weird look on his face...not worried so much, just odd. He asked if I feel bloated or full, and other than being seriously backed up (sorry TMI...it's the damn progesterone!!) I told him no. He told me that he wanted me to start weighing myself and that if I gained 3-4 lbs over the next couple of days to call the office. He started talking about ovary stimulation, blood flow and fluid retention and I couldn't help but glaze over! Not intentionally, but I just have no clue what he's talking about!!! (Paging Dr. Ali!!). When he was done I asked him if everything was ok overall and he assured me it was...he almost seemed psyched...I've been a googling fiend, and all I see are articles on OHSS....I honestly feel fine and have none of the symptoms they warn us about...anybody have any insight??

Paging Dr. Ali! Too funny! Yes OHSS is what he was worried about, but like most Dr's they don't want to give you a name because they know you will just go and use Dr. Google! So yes, he was probably worried about OHSS, it is where the ovaries are hyper stimulated and it causes your cell walls to collapse and the fluid to leak out and then it accumulates in your abdomen, and you gain like a lot of weight overnight. It can back up and cause you to have trouble breathing, and all sorts of other nice feelings!

If you feel fine, then go with that, but if you do start feeling bloated, or your pants don't fit or you suddenly gain 5 lbs overnight, then it is a cause for concern. If you are 7dpo (4dp3dt) then you are probably in the clear. UNLESS you are pregnant. The OHSS is stimulated by the hyperstimulation of the ovaries, then further exacerbated by HCG! So IF you are pregnant, that HCG level should be rising starting as soon as yesterday and continue to do so. So if you get worse, I'd POAS

If you do start getting worse, definitely call your FS, but things you can do to prevent it: keep hydrated, and eat protein, and if you get bloated just eat several small meals (of mostly protein) during the day.

Man Dr. Ali, you NEVER disappoint!! This is all very interesting indeed. Here's my question as far as testing goes though...if my trigger shot was sunday the 24th, when do you suppose it would be safely out of my system?? I don't know if I can handle the stress of testing early...would you say I need to health-wise??

I'm laughing because you said there would be cause for alarm if "your pants don't fit"...how does the fact that I've been lounging and eating all sorts of delicious goodies without even the thought of exercise since Friday play into that concern??? I can pretty much guarantee my pants are gonna be tight when I have to get off my butt and go back to work tomorrow!! If only i could just wear my sweats!!! Hahaha!!

 

[MoBaby]

wait until 10-11 dpo to test IMO. The trigger lingered in me for 12 days!

 

[alicatt]

So...I had my check-up this morning, I'm 4dp3dt. I was psyched to see my actual primary doc whom I LOVE! He also did my transfer which was sooo nice! Anyway he told me that my transfer was one of the smoothest he'd ever done. This was encouraging for sure. Then when he did my u/s he said something like "your body's reaction is not commensurate with your age...it's more on line with a 32-year old"...again, super encouraging. Then he looked at my ovaries (particularly the left...where the majority of my follicles came from) and he said they were quite full of fluid. He had a weird look on his face...not worried so much, just odd. He asked if I feel bloated or full, and other than being seriously backed up (sorry TMI...it's the damn progesterone!!) I told him no. He told me that he wanted me to start weighing myself and that if I gained 3-4 lbs over the next couple of days to call the office. He started talking about ovary stimulation, blood flow and fluid retention and I couldn't help but glaze over! Not intentionally, but I just have no clue what he's talking about!!! (Paging Dr. Ali!!). When he was done I asked him if everything was ok overall and he assured me it was...he almost seemed psyched...I've been a googling fiend, and all I see are articles on OHSS....I honestly feel fine and have none of the symptoms they warn us about...anybody have any insight??

Paging Dr. Ali! Too funny! Yes OHSS is what he was worried about, but like most Dr's they don't want to give you a name because they know you will just go and use Dr. Google! So yes, he was probably worried about OHSS, it is where the ovaries are hyper stimulated and it causes your cell walls to collapse and the fluid to leak out and then it accumulates in your abdomen, and you gain like a lot of weight overnight. It can back up and cause you to have trouble breathing, and all sorts of other nice feelings!

If you feel fine, then go with that, but if you do start feeling bloated, or your pants don't fit or you suddenly gain 5 lbs overnight, then it is a cause for concern. If you are 7dpo (4dp3dt) then you are probably in the clear. UNLESS you are pregnant. The OHSS is stimulated by the hyperstimulation of the ovaries, then further exacerbated by HCG! So IF you are pregnant, that HCG level should be rising starting as soon as yesterday and continue to do so. So if you get worse, I'd POAS

If you do start getting worse, definitely call your FS, but things you can do to prevent it: keep hydrated, and eat protein, and if you get bloated just eat several small meals (of mostly protein) during the day.

Man Dr. Ali, you NEVER disappoint!! This is all very interesting indeed. Here's my question as far as testing goes though...if my trigger shot was sunday the 24th, when do you suppose it would be safely out of my system?? I don't know if I can handle the stress of testing early...would you say I need to health-wise??

I'm laughing because you said there would be cause for alarm if "your pants don't fit"...how does the fact that I've been lounging and eating all sorts of delicious goodies without even the thought of exercise since Friday play into that concern??? I can pretty much guarantee my pants are gonna be tight when I have to get off my butt and go back to work tomorrow!! If only i could just wear my sweats!!! Hahaha!!

HEHE.. Turkey you make me laugh Well yes hanging out in your PJ's and eating all sorts of goodies will make your pants feel tight too! I'm talking more about bloating, I guess it is a little different?

Your trigger shot 'should' be out of your system, they are usually out after 7 days but for some they linger a few more days.

I would suggest weighing yourself now (I know its the middle of the day) and then weighing yourself tomorrow morning. Your morning weight should be lower and if it is not, then you might be gaining due to OHSS? See how you feel. I had moderate OHSS with my first IVF and it was miserable. My abdomen was swollen and my organs were all squished, and I found that it was difficult to breathe. Not terribly so, but I had to sit up higher to get more air in.

As for testing, if you are really worried about getting the trigger, you can wait a few more days, I was only suggesting you test if you indeed did start to feel the effects of OHSS. If you did, I think it would pretty much guarantee that your HCG was rising, which will only happen if you are preggers!

 

[Turkey16]

wait until 10-11 dpo to test IMO. The trigger lingered in me for 12 days!

Ovulation meaning the day of the egg retrieval right?? I seriously don't want to test at all, but ever since Dr. Ali mentioned my cell walls collapsing and fluid leaking out I'm thinking maybe I need to!! Hahaha!! Kidding of course, although I know it's no joke. I finished up my supply of Gatorade a few days ago but I'm thinking I should get some more...and salty stuff right? Like Cheeze-its?? Don't mind if I do, but it feels like that won't help my pants to not be tight...oy vey! This is all so confusing!!!

 

[L4hope]

I hope you didn't ovulate Ali. But, if you did I'm guessing you'll have to do bcp and Lupron. That's what I've had to do with all of my IVF/FET cycles...sorry! Hope you get good news at 2:00!

Thanks L4, I remember you saying that you did this for your FET's as well as IVF, so I was a little surprised when he decided to skip that part and go with just estrogen. I wonder why some women have this issue while others don't?

I think partly using bcp and Lupron gives them complete "hormonal control" as my doctor put it so there's no guess work as to how your body is going to react. But added to that, it also gives them timing control as well. Like my doc does all FETs on Friday, so they can schedule however many transfers all on the same day.

Any word yet on your bloodwork?

 

[alicatt]

AFM - AHHHHH. My FS office calls and says.. We have the results, but your Dr is not here so we cannot release them to you! The nurse was like, I knew you would be worried so I didn't want you to worry. I'm like well now I'm in suspense for another day UGH. I managed to wheedle out of her that I did NOT ovulate. So that is good news, but she seemed to hesitate as to whether I would be starting tomorrow or not. So I can only assume my e2 was not high enough and we need to start again Why on earth does someone with high normal estrogen suddenly have issues producing it? I can't decide whether we should skip this whole trial thing and just do a natural FET? Or whether we should do the trial now get it over with and ignore what we did? I'm at a loss. I should know more tomorrow morning.

 

[alicatt]

wait until 10-11 dpo to test IMO. The trigger lingered in me for 12 days!

Ovulation meaning the day of the egg retrieval right?? I seriously don't want to test at all, but ever since Dr. Ali mentioned my cell walls collapsing and fluid leaking out I'm thinking maybe I need to!! Hahaha!! Kidding of course, although I know it's no joke. I finished up my supply of Gatorade a few days ago but I'm thinking I should get some more...and salty stuff right? Like Cheeze-its?? Don't mind if I do, but it feels like that won't help my pants to not be tight...oy vey! This is all so confusing!!!

Yes gatorade and/or pedialyte, and protein! The protein builds the walls back up so you don't keep leaking fluid. If you have OHSS you will know, it isn't something you just sort of have (at least not if it is from your HCG rising). You will gain 5+ lbs in 1 day, and it will not be pleasant. If you weren't planning on testing then don't. I don't want to cause you undue stress, and I don't think your FS did either. If you don't have the symptoms that is good, OHSS is not fun! However if you don't have the OHSS symptoms it doesn't mean you didn't get pregnant. So don't stress about that either! It only means you are likely pregnant if your OHSS symptoms suddenly appear around 6-9DPO.

 

[Turkey16]

AFM - AHHHHH. My FS office calls and says.. We have the results, but your Dr is not here so we cannot release them to you! The nurse was like, I knew you would be worried so I didn't want you to worry. I'm like well now I'm in suspense for another day UGH. I managed to wheedle out of her that I did NOT ovulate. So that is good news, but she seemed to hesitate as to whether I would be starting tomorrow or not. So I can only assume my e2 was not high enough and we need to start again Why on earth does someone with high normal estrogen suddenly have issues producing it? I can't decide whether we should skip this whole trial thing and just do a natural FET? Or whether we should do the trial now get it over with and ignore what we did? I'm at a loss. I should know more tomorrow morning.

THAT IS JUST CRUEL!! But it's good that you didn't ovulate, right??? Try to hold out til tomorrow morning before making any plans cuz you never really know what they're gonna tell you!!! They better call you FIRST THING!

 

[Turkey16]

wait until 10-11 dpo to test IMO. The trigger lingered in me for 12 days!

Ovulation meaning the day of the egg retrieval right?? I seriously don't want to test at all, but ever since Dr. Ali mentioned my cell walls collapsing and fluid leaking out I'm thinking maybe I need to!! Hahaha!! Kidding of course, although I know it's no joke. I finished up my supply of Gatorade a few days ago but I'm thinking I should get some more...and salty stuff right? Like Cheeze-its?? Don't mind if I do, but it feels like that won't help my pants to not be tight...oy vey! This is all so confusing!!!

Yes gatorade and/or pedialyte, and protein! The protein builds the walls back up so you don't keep leaking fluid. If you have OHSS you will know, it isn't something you just sort of have (at least not if it is from your HCG rising). You will gain 5+ lbs in 1 day, and it will not be pleasant. If you weren't planning on testing then don't. I don't want to cause you undue stress, and I don't think your FS did either. If you don't have the symptoms that is good, OHSS is not fun! However if you don't have the OHSS symptoms it doesn't mean you didn't get pregnant. So don't stress about that either! It only means you are likely pregnant if your OHSS symptoms suddenly appear around 6-9DPO.

In that case, I'm gonna keep weighing myself in the am (I had to go buy a scale as I'm not a fan of them) drink some Gatorade and eat some of these dang hard-boiled eggs from Easter that I have about 45 of. Not gonna test, not gonna stress (try not to at least) and I'm gonna try to take it all as a good sign! Thanks again Ali...you seriously are missing your calling!!

 

[alicatt]

wait until 10-11 dpo to test IMO. The trigger lingered in me for 12 days!

Ovulation meaning the day of the egg retrieval right?? I seriously don't want to test at all, but ever since Dr. Ali mentioned my cell walls collapsing and fluid leaking out I'm thinking maybe I need to!! Hahaha!! Kidding of course, although I know it's no joke. I finished up my supply of Gatorade a few days ago but I'm thinking I should get some more...and salty stuff right? Like Cheeze-its?? Don't mind if I do, but it feels like that won't help my pants to not be tight...oy vey! This is all so confusing!!!

Yes gatorade and/or pedialyte, and protein! The protein builds the walls back up so you don't keep leaking fluid. If you have OHSS you will know, it isn't something you just sort of have (at least not if it is from your HCG rising). You will gain 5+ lbs in 1 day, and it will not be pleasant. If you weren't planning on testing then don't. I don't want to cause you undue stress, and I don't think your FS did either. If you don't have the symptoms that is good, OHSS is not fun! However if you don't have the OHSS symptoms it doesn't mean you didn't get pregnant. So don't stress about that either! It only means you are likely pregnant if your OHSS symptoms suddenly appear around 6-9DPO.

In that case, I'm gonna keep weighing myself in the am (I had to go buy a scale as I'm not a fan of them) drink some Gatorade and eat some of these dang hard-boiled eggs from Easter that I have about 45 of. Not gonna test, not gonna stress (try not to at least) and I'm gonna try to take it all as a good sign! Thanks again Ali...you seriously are missing your calling!!

You are so sweet! I think it is different when you have been there, and you have walked a mile in those shoes. I know what you are thinking, feeling, etc. At least most of it. We are all different, but in general we all go through the same stages and have the same questions. So having been there, and done that, helps! Believe me there were ladies that helped me down off a cliff (well not literally) but when I was like what does this all mean and I was frantically googling for answers. So its kind of a pay it forward type thing. Now you will be armed with the information to help someone else in a few months!

 

[everhopeful]

Ali - that's good that you didn't ovulate isn't it? Hope that this means this cycle is still a go? Are you doing acupuncture?
Hope your doc contacts you soon! X

 

[Sandy83]

Ali, Great news on not ovulating! Hope the Dr calls first thing how frustrating Fx'd for you

AFM, Feel like I'm having another full AF this month as if one isn't bad enough all i can think is my AF that started on 24th March was just the start of it as it was a pretty normal AF (as normal as can be) but not to heavy but this one is quite heavy (sorry TMI). So haven't a clue what cycle day I'm on or anything Hopefully the FS will be able to shed some light on the situation next week xx

 

[Flowermal]

Heya, just got back from ET.. Transferred 2 embies..
However am bumped cos we don't have any frosties..however doc assured us that the 2 embies were perfect so these are the only 2 we have.. Trying really hard to stay positive..