Anyone doing FET/IVF in Jan 2013 till everyone's BFP (Everyone Welcome)

[alicatt]

Hi all - I'm just jumping on this thread with a question, hope you don't mind. I'll be starting IVF in July and in choosing between different payment packages offered by my clinic I am trying to anticipate how many frozen embryos I'll have left over after a fresh cycle. During my baseline ultrasounds at my IUIs I had between 18 and 26 follicles each time. How many of those would I expect to get to maturity in an IVF cycle?

Also does anyone know if they can do comprehensive chromosomal screening (PGS, CCS, whatever else they may call it...) after you've already frozen the embryo, or do you have to decide to do that before the fresh cycle?

Thanks in advance for your help! Really appreciate any advice you can offer!

There is really no way to tell how many eggs will fertilize and how many will be left for freeze. I had 4, but others have more and others have none!
My FS only does PGS on 3 day embryos, and won't do it after they are frozen. I tried, but they said it wasn't possible. I wish I had spent the money at that time. Good luck in July!

 

[Anxiously]

Sekky, I was told to resume my daily activities after ET too. Before you sleep, you can try doing some gentle, fertility yoga poses that helps with blood flow to the uterus.

Sandy, you're right, one is all it takes! And you now have 4 times the chance!

 

[Anxiously]

Hi all - I'm just jumping on this thread with a question, hope you don't mind. I'll be starting IVF in July and in choosing between different payment packages offered by my clinic I am trying to anticipate how many frozen embryos I'll have left over after a fresh cycle. During my baseline ultrasounds at my IUIs I had between 18 and 26 follicles each time. How many of those would I expect to get to maturity in an IVF cycle?

Also does anyone know if they can do comprehensive chromosomal screening (PGS, CCS, whatever else they may call it...) after you've already frozen the embryo, or do you have to decide to do that before the fresh cycle?

Thanks in advance for your help! Really appreciate any advice you can offer!

Hi esah, the stimulation protocol for IVF is more aggressive than just Clomid, so it's hard to compare. But I see that you've managed to get 18-26 follicles just based on Clomid, you need to be aware that with stronger IVF drugs, there is always the risk of OHSS. I'm sure that your doc will adjust your protocol accordingly. When I was on Clomid 100mg, I had only a handful of follicles, and only 2 or 3 that were mature enough for IUI. For my IVF, I managed to retrieve 14 mature eggs.

As to your question about PGD, I'm not too familiar on that. But I have heard of people who had PGD done on both fresh and frozen embryos (after they have thawed them, of course).

One more thing, I see that you've been on 3 consecutive Clomid cycles. Do take some nourishment to build up your uterine lining before IVF as Clomid usually thins it out.

 

[FirstTry]

Hi all - I'm just jumping on this thread with a question, hope you don't mind. I'll be starting IVF in July and in choosing between different payment packages offered by my clinic I am trying to anticipate how many frozen embryos I'll have left over after a fresh cycle. During my baseline ultrasounds at my IUIs I had between 18 and 26 follicles each time. How many of those would I expect to get to maturity in an IVF cycle?

Also does anyone know if they can do comprehensive chromosomal screening (PGS, CCS, whatever else they may call it...) after you've already frozen the embryo, or do you have to decide to do that before the fresh cycle?

Thanks in advance for your help! Really appreciate any advice you can offer!

Hi esah, the stimulation protocol for IVF is more aggressive than just Clomid, so it's hard to compare. But I see that you've managed to get 18-26 follicles just based on Clomid, you need to be aware that with stronger IVF drugs, there is always the risk of OHSS. I'm sure that your doc will adjust your protocol accordingly. When I was on Clomid 100mg, I had only a handful of follicles, and only 2 or 3 that were mature enough for IUI. For my IVF, I managed to retrieve 14 mature eggs.

As to your question about PGD, I'm not too familiar on that. But I have heard of people who had PGD done on both fresh and frozen embryos (after they have thawed them, of course).

One more thing, I see that you've been on 3 consecutive Clomid cycles. Do take some nourishment to build up your uterine lining before IVF as Clomid usually thins it out.

Anxiously: I think Esah is talking about antral follicles; those are the ones visible on day 3, before you've taken any meds, be it Clomid or IVF stims.

Esah: I usually have around 18-22 antral follicles and for my only complete IVF cycle (when I froze my unfertilized eggs 2 years ago, at age 36), I got 18 eggs, with 11 mature. We have yet to fertilize those, so I don't know how many would make it to blastocyst. For my IUI/IVF conversion cycle, I got 8 mature eggs and ended up with 4 blastocysts (1 transferred fresh and 3 frozen); I think my antral count was 15-20. But I understand that that is a very good ratio of follicles to blasts. Some women get 25 eggs and end up with only 1 blastocyst. So, it's really hard to tell until you've tried once.

As for PGD, I don't think it's recommended after freezing, but you should ask your RE. I think PGD is good for those who have suffered recurrent m/c, so if that's not you, I don't know if it's worth it at this point. I was planning to do PGD with a fresh IVF cycle if this cycle didn't work, but so far, it's looking pretty good.

And I agree about Clomid. The only times I had a thin lining were when I took Clomid. It was 7-9mm, when normally, it's 12mm.

I hope that helps.

 

[Anxiously]

Anxiously: I think Esah is talking about antral follicles; those are the ones visible on day 3, before you've taken any meds, be it Clomid or IVF stims.

Ah..got it. Not sure how many antral follies I had. But I do know that there was a huge difference in the no. of mature follicles I got between Clomid and IVF cycles.

 

[ttcbaby117]

Sandy. Rooting for you. I hope those 4 make it to blast. Quality not quantity

AFM. I just did my beta. Now I have to sit and wait for the results.

 

[alicatt]

Sandy. Rooting for you. I hope those 4 make it to blast. Quality not quantity

AFM. I just did my beta. Now I have to sit and wait for the results.

Did they tell you when you'd get the results? I seem to be getting mine around 2pm. I saw a rainbow on my way into the office, and made a wish. Do you think that is good news? I'm not sure what rainbows mean?

 

[Anxiously]

Ali, your pot of gold is already snuggling comfortably inside of you

 

[MoBaby]

Sandy: I have seen so much success with just a few fertilized And several with only 3-4 who had twins and still have 1-2 frosties. FX for you!!

Ali: GL today FX for strong high numbers!

 

[alicatt]

Ali, your pot of gold is already snuggling comfortably inside of you

I hope so, today's numbers will be very telling.

 

[BabyD225]

First- Thanks!! So it must be the hormones, I'm so early on, but with all the estrogen and progesterone I take, and now increasing HCG, puking is expected ... I heard morning sickness is a good sign.. so I'll try and embrace every puke! lol

TTC - can't wait to hear your numbers today!!! FINGERS CROSSED...

 

[BabyD225]

here's today's... 6dp......

 

[alicatt]

here's today's... 6dp......

Looking good!

 

[BabyD225]

excited for your numbers Ali... when are you expecting it?

 

[alicatt]

excited for your numbers Ali... when are you expecting it?

The last few days they have called around 2pm. So another 3 hours. I'm so on edge. I feel almost worse today then I did for the first beta! My MS is definitely worse, but I think I have some nerves jumping around too.
I just realized, that I initially thought I was having sea turtles (since my embryos look like turtle shells with a little part that looks like a flipper), maybe that is why my betas are so low?
I was just reading about a woman that had a beta of 78 at 15dp5dt (today for me) and went on to have a huge jump by 12dp5dt to like 968! So I'm hopeful that my beta will be at least 400 today.

 

[Sweetness_87]

Ttc- good luck!!! And yes DH wants to do it early but I really want to wait til I'm at least 7 weeks so he decided to wait . I also have already had two betas. My RE does like 4-5 of them which is nice. It will hold me over til ultrasound. 1st beta 506 @ 10dp6dt , 2nd was 3050 @ 14dp6dt. I have another beta tomorrow. Getting anxious

Ali- I didn't know you were getting another beta today!!??? Can't wait to hear!

First- that would explain why I haven't had any vomiting yet and just nausea.

Babyd- looks great!!!! When is your beta??

 

[Sweetness_87]

Sekky- every RE is different mine wants 2 days bed rest but i do 3 and then take it easy ( no running exercising intercourse etc) til the ultrasound. Thats also per my REs request for all FET/IVF patients. I did do acupuncture two times before ET that's bout it. I have worked so hard I am very careful with what I do. But every one and RE is diff

Sandy- I only had four as well. Only takes one

Anxiously- hope your doing well

 

[BabyD225]

excited for your numbers Ali... when are you expecting it?

The last few days they have called around 2pm. So another 3 hours. I'm so on edge. I feel almost worse today then I did for the first beta! My MS is definitely worse, but I think I have some nerves jumping around too.
I just realized, that I initially thought I was having sea turtles (since my embryos look like turtle shells with a little part that looks like a flipper), maybe that is why my betas are so low?
I was just reading about a woman that had a beta of 78 at 15dp5dt (today for me) and went on to have a huge jump by 12dp5dt to like 968! So I'm hopeful that my beta will be at least 400 today.

I've been there.. waiting for the second and third and fourth beta's are the WORST!!! My dh keeps saying he won't believe we're BFP until he hears the first beta and I'm like, I wanna hear the ones after that!!!

Sea Turtles are cool... lol, but I think you're just having a normal baby! But maybe you should name him/her turtle.... just a thought

 

[BabyD225]

Thanks Sweetness- my beta isn't until next Wednesday!! It's like torture.. I'll be 12dp the transfer then... so far away!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MoBaby]

I got a baby last night Look below!! Thought it would brighten up everyones day!