Anyone doing FET/IVF in Jan 2013 till everyone's BFP (Everyone Welcome)

[Sweetness_87]

Hold- thanks so much!!!!! I will ask them tom

 

[L4hope]

Lotus glad to hear your friend is doing well. My friend just had her baby on Mother's Day at 28 weeks. Her little guy is doing well though..slowly but surely gaining weight. He's up to 3lbs. 9oz. So teeny tiny! Hopefully your friend will be able to stay stabilized in the hospital!

 

[ashknowsbest]

Ash I think a second opinion is a great idea at this point. There has to be a reason why you only get half of your eggs mature and great embryos but bfn. Keep us posted on what happens next. Maybe you could do fet first before 2nd opinion and see about maybe scratch biopsy? Or the biopsy where they see if your uterine is receptive? I feel you though. Has dh has in depth sperm testing? Maybe an issue there? Could your prolactinoma be to blame? Im sorry about the bfn I wet for the 2nd opinion and decided to do the fet first due to a lot of factors but I also think it will help me close doors if for some reason it fails.

Mo - I'm definitely going to do the FET with the doctor that I'm currently with. Just getting a second opinion to make sure that my doctor isn't missing anything. I need the second opinion anyways since we're moving from NYC to San Fran and I'm not going to be able to travel back here for a full IVF cycle when I'm ready. I don't think I'm going to be ready to do a full IVF cycle for a while anyways, at least 6 months. It's just too much at this point. I'm sick of having to give myself needles, I'm sick of going in for appointments every morning, I'm sick of getting sedated every other month for ER, I'm sick of the disappointment when I do all of those things and it still results in a BFN. So, a break it is. I'll fly back from San Fran to do my FET but that won't be too bad because I can get monitoring in San Fran and actually come back here to do the transfer. Plus, I still have family over here on the east coast so it's not like I will never be back here.

So ... here's the plan laid out.
Go in for WTF appointment ASAP.
Move to San Fran
Have a consult with a new fertility doctor over in San Fran
Take 6 months off. I am going to still try, I'll be taking CoQ10, maca root and a bunch of other things to try and improve my egg quality even though we're just trying naturally.
After 6 months if I'm still not pregnant, I'll fly back to do my FET with RMANY.
If the FET doesn't work we'll do maybe 1 more natural cycle with a doctor out in San Fran (I'm even considering going to CCRM, Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine) I've heard they have AWESOME technique and success rates.
If that doesn't work I'm going to pursue adoption.

On a side note:
I would like to know what it feels like to carry a baby so if we find out that my problem is with egg quality and not implantation (I want a solid yes it's an implantation problem or no before I try donor) I would want to try donor eggs maybe one and go from there. I just don't think I would ever be able to completely accept that I will never know what it feels like to be pregnant. So we'll try to see if it's an implantation problem or not. If it is we'll adopt and if not (and they can prove it) we'll do donor eggs.

Sorry for the long post girls, I've been very MIA and just wanted to update you all. I'm doing okay. OTD is tomorrow, I'm going to test tonight and hope for the best but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Everyone who had great betas today, AWESOME news! For people who didn't get such great news, . And everyone else, best of luck!

 

[Sweetness_87]

Ash- I have a friend who is flying out to Colorado because they have some awesome stats and awesome reviews. let me know if you decide to go there eager to hear how they are in person

 

[Anxiously]

I got a baby last night Look below!! Thought it would brighten up everyones day!

Oh my! I looooove cats! Is that a ragdoll? I have one too and incidentally, her name is Baby

 

[MoBaby]

He could be a seal point. Whatever he is he is super duper cute and attached to me already!

 

[Turkey16]

Thanks, ladies. I just heard that she is on solid food now and the contractions have stopped. She has to stay in the hospital for 5 weeks, but at least things seem to be improving.

Hey Lotus...not sure how I managed to post your comment about your friend along with my response to Ali's great beta news. I hope that didn't come across as insensitive. I feel TERRIBLY for your friend, and I'm glad to read that things seem to be improving. I will keep her in my prayers. Hope you are well...

 

[Mells54]

Lotus, glad to hear things are looking up for your friend.

Em and Ali, great numbers.

TTC and Ash, lots of

So much to catch up on with this thread! What a roller coaster this whole process is!

 

[LotusBlossom]

Turkey- No worries at all! I didn't think anything of it.

I'm having a friend visit this weekend for a girls weekend. I can't wait! Thank goodness for good friends.

 

[LotusBlossom]

I'm hoping for an amazing surprise for you tomorrow, Ash! ❤

 

[ttcbaby117]

Hi Ladies...thank you for all the caring messages...ME and DH just feel like we've been knocked over, seriously! So I am trying to get a WTF appointment but my RE is going out of town on the 12th and they said she couldn't speak to me until the 28th of June! I said no way! So they are trying to squeeze me in early next week.

Ash I really like your plan! I actually have looked at CCRM, there is only lady who lives here on the island who after 4 failed IVFs in Florida when to them and got pregnant the first shot! She told me long ago not to mess with the RE's in Florida and go straight to Colorado because in the long run it will save me money.....Anyway, I pay out of pocket and with travel, treatment, and meds...I find it close to impossible to afford right now. If you can do it because of insurance I say do it and make it a get away for you and the DH!

 

[ttcbaby117]

OH and one last thing...I only have 1 frostie...does anyone know what kind of chance I have with only one?

 

[ashknowsbest]

I tested again tonight, it's BFN. I'm planning on not going in for beta. I'm going to call the nurse in the morning and let her know. My thoughts are this.

Even if I went in for the beta tomorrow, if the HPT can't pick up the HCG, my HCG levels are probably so low that it's a chemical so why would I want to know that anyways?

Going in for the beta knowing that it's already negative is such a hassle. I have to wake up early as heck, sit in the waiting room for at least 45 minutes because they're always busy just to find out what I already know.

I kind of feel bad for not going in but at the same time I just don't see the point.

TTC - I heard of a lot of women having success. I really think that's what we're going to do if the FET fails. And we have insurance coverage but it's about $20,000 total lifetime on my OH's insurance so we do have a good amount of coverage. We'll see what happens. Best case scenario, I won't need to do the FET or the IVF because I'll get preggo naturally.

 

[MoBaby]

Ash my clinic would not let me skip te beta even though I was bleeding and my hpts were getting lighter and lighter. It made me feel worse when the re nurse called and said it was a chemical so I feel you not wanting to go. My re then said they have to do the bloodwork for some reason I can't recall b/c I kinda zoned out at that point. Hopefully you can get out of going.

Ttc: I think you have good Chances with one. Does your clinic use vitrification or slow thaw? That's what matters. Vitrification method has over 90% rate of thawing vs 50% with slow thaw.

 

[alicatt]

TTC.. what Mo said.. the vitrification is much better, both mine survived! It only takes 1 to implant! Also ask to have them do assisted hatching to give it a boost. I think you have a good chance with the 1 frostie! I think some women are better with a FET! I'm not sure of your infertility history and why you opted for IVF, so I can't really recommend too much, but you could always get a second opinion, my FS is in boca. Or fly out to Colorado. I lived there for 7 years, and love the state. Do you have any friends there? Or anyone that has a ski chalet? I wonder if you could swap homes with someone there? Like that movie? Maybe you could give CCRM a shot? I'm glad you are going to get your WTF appt sooner than later!

 

[~Brandy~]

I thought I would share this with the group...3 years ago I got ahold of a psychic which I dont normally do but I did for fun. I never really read the email but this is what she said... I thought this was relevant since I am doing IVF jun/july cycle.

Your reading reveals that your BFP news comes the month of July from a cycle that began in June. The baby shows as a boy and his EDD/birthdate is referenced the month of March - There is a specific reference to the dates of the 15th and 26th.

Jennifer Renecker


The strange part is I have my Egg transfer on 7/15 so there is the 15th that she is seeing and the 26th is the day that the doctor is doing my blood HCG test. That'd be amazing if she was right haha.. Ok now im grasping at straws... this reading is 3 years old.

 

[esah]

Hi all - I'm just jumping on this thread with a question, hope you don't mind. I'll be starting IVF in July and in choosing between different payment packages offered by my clinic I am trying to anticipate how many frozen embryos I'll have left over after a fresh cycle. During my baseline ultrasounds at my IUIs I had between 18 and 26 follicles each time. How many of those would I expect to get to maturity in an IVF cycle?

Also does anyone know if they can do comprehensive chromosomal screening (PGS, CCS, whatever else they may call it...) after you've already frozen the embryo, or do you have to decide to do that before the fresh cycle?

Thanks in advance for your help! Really appreciate any advice you can offer!

Hi esah, the stimulation protocol for IVF is more aggressive than just Clomid, so it's hard to compare. But I see that you've managed to get 18-26 follicles just based on Clomid, you need to be aware that with stronger IVF drugs, there is always the risk of OHSS. I'm sure that your doc will adjust your protocol accordingly. When I was on Clomid 100mg, I had only a handful of follicles, and only 2 or 3 that were mature enough for IUI. For my IVF, I managed to retrieve 14 mature eggs.

As to your question about PGD, I'm not too familiar on that. But I have heard of people who had PGD done on both fresh and frozen embryos (after they have thawed them, of course).

One more thing, I see that you've been on 3 consecutive Clomid cycles. Do take some nourishment to build up your uterine lining before IVF as Clomid usually thins it out.

Anxiously: I think Esah is talking about antral follicles; those are the ones visible on day 3, before you've taken any meds, be it Clomid or IVF stims.

Esah: I usually have around 18-22 antral follicles and for my only complete IVF cycle (when I froze my unfertilized eggs 2 years ago, at age 36), I got 18 eggs, with 11 mature. We have yet to fertilize those, so I don't know how many would make it to blastocyst. For my IUI/IVF conversion cycle, I got 8 mature eggs and ended up with 4 blastocysts (1 transferred fresh and 3 frozen); I think my antral count was 15-20. But I understand that that is a very good ratio of follicles to blasts. Some women get 25 eggs and end up with only 1 blastocyst. So, it's really hard to tell until you've tried once.

As for PGD, I don't think it's recommended after freezing, but you should ask your RE. I think PGD is good for those who have suffered recurrent m/c, so if that's not you, I don't know if it's worth it at this point. I was planning to do PGD with a fresh IVF cycle if this cycle didn't work, but so far, it's looking pretty good.

And I agree about Clomid. The only times I had a thin lining were when I took Clomid. It was 7-9mm, when normally, it's 12mm.

I hope that helps.

Thank you Anxiously, FirstTry and Allicat. Yes, I was talking about antral follicles.. I had 3 mature follies with 150mg Clomid. So I'm optimistic but sounds like there is really no way to predict. I'm not starting IVF until July so I will have had 2 months rest from any treatment by then, so hopefully no problem with my lining. I will cross my fingers for a cycle like yours, FirstTry! Glad it is going well!

I asked about the PGD from frozen embryos today and it sounds like it is possible but not ideal to be thawing and refreezing. I was only talking to the cycle coordinator not the doctor though, so I don't have a lot of details.

Good luck all with your cycles and pregnancies!

 

[Em260]

TTC - I'm proof that it only takes one frostie! We did a single embryo transfer and my RE told me depending on your age transferring two doesn't raise the success rate that much it only raises the chance of twins. I looked into CCRM back when I was trying to find a RE that would allow me to do IVF before my ovarian cancer surgery. I found this thread on another forum and it was really helpful: https://forums.fertilitycommunity.com/vitro-fertilization-ivf/2020180326-ccrm-girls-1697.html

Esah - sorry I missed your question on PGS earlier. We did PGS(aCGH) and from what I understand it can be done on frozen embryos but it's not usually recommended because it involves thawing and refreezing which is really hard on the embryos.

Lotus - I'm glad to hear your friend is doing better

Mells - how are you doing? Lupron headaches hopefully staying away?

Sandy - when is ET?

Sekky - how are you feeling?

L4 - wow, can't believe you knew another girl named Davis! I have to tell my friend. Speaking of celebrity baby names my favorite has always been Jason Lee's son Pilot Inspektor

 

[L4hope]

Em yep Davis is actually the one who named her son Koller. Any to top it off the last name rhymes with the first. This isn't it but same rhyme scheme. Koller Bower. Ha I never heard of that one. Pilot Inspektor!

 

[Sandy83]

Em, I will get phone call tomorrow morning to see if i'm going in tomorrow or monday for ET. Not long till you u/s are you excited xx