Anyone doing FET/IVF in Jan 2013 till everyone's BFP (Everyone Welcome)

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Hi Sandy

Im not sure if your clinic does it but I had an endometrial biopsy (or some refer to it as a endometrial scratch) and it is used to aid implantation. I had it done for my last FET cycle and the embryo did implant - but I think it was a faulty embryo (quality and growth was bad). but I think by doing the biopsy they created the perfect environment for anything to stick.

Best wishes. xo
 
Thanks Blue, Yes i heard of a couple of ladies on this thread who have done that so will definitely be asking about that. I know from previous times my lining has been quite thin also and since my last FET and this fresh cycle i drank Red Raspberry leaf tea and it's been the thicker than it's ever been so might drink that while i wait to start again and see if there are any other natural remedies to help also xx
 
Sorry to butt in I just wanted to let you girls know what my doctor said about the scratch. He said that yes, some people do believe it to help and girls do get pregnant when they go through the scratch buuut he doesn't do it and here is why.

When you scratch the lining, it can cause scar tissue or make the linin inflamed. He's not sure this is good either and he said if it does attach it may just be a fluke. They can't prove that it helps. He said that endocrinologists and doctors who deal with women barely know anything about the uterus and its lining. I even asked about sending blood off to check for NK cells and he doesn't really believe in that either because he thinks it's asinine to be able to tell that you have these killer cells that are in your uterus from a blood draw.

Sorry if this sounds ... like a downer but that's not what it's meant to do. I just see ladies talking about scratches and that they can do good but I just wanted to provide some other input.

Sandy - I think you have to do what's right for you, I'm so sorry about your failed cycle but most of us have been there, we're here for you and you will make it through! :hugs:
 
Sandy83 said:
Thanks Blue, Yes i heard of a couple of ladies on this thread who have done that so will definitely be asking about that. I know from previous times my lining has been quite thin also and since my last FET and this fresh cycle i drank Red Raspberry leaf tea and it's been the thicker than it's ever been so might drink that while i wait to start again and see if there are any other natural remedies to help also xx
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You and I are in the same boat sista :wacko: Thin lining is my nemesis. I just started the raspberry tea this cycle so let's see if that works for me. Will start Viagra (woohoo!!) next cycle too and will be monitoring my lining through u/s - will let you know if that helps. We can exchange notes on our doctors' advices too.
 
Thanks Ash, it's also good to hear every side of things both the positive and negative of treatments.

To tell you the truth I'm going to ask the question and ask about all these different procedures I here about but my clinic have been so good so far and are so supportive and in the UK are know for the amount of new research they undertake and top quality treatment they provide (from what I've heard anyway) so i have trust in them so will see what they suggest for moving forward :hugs:
 
Ash, I too have always wondered how they can tell all of Hesse things from a blood draw. Mt RE sounds a lot like yours...pretty straight shooter. Thanks for the info, since so many talk about the positives of these procedures.
 
Sandy83 said:
Sounds good Anxiously, when you looking to continue? xx
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Current plan is to follow this RE's recommendation to do a fresh IVF and supposed to wait for about 3 months for the DHEA effect to kick in...but now that the DHEA supplements are in the dumps, I'll have to check in again on the timing. I'll also have to hear what the 3rd RE has to say next weekend.
 
Ash, Blue, thanks for providing the 2 different perspectives. That's the greatness of BnB isn't it? Our hands are usually tied to the doctor that we have carefully selected for the long haul, and in them we trust.

At least in this forum we have so many other ladies who are wiling to exchange notes and that give us more "bargaining" power in deciding what's best for ourselves!
 
Well who knows anxiously we could end up cycling together as think mine will be starting in August again :hugs:
 
My dr is with ashs dr as well. He did the scratch biopsy only because we were doing the hysteroscopy. He removed the polyps and found an area to scratch that looked good and went for it. There is no data supporting why the biopsy works. Same with nk cell treatment. No data or data out there that proves treating with iv therapies is effective. But the tissue from the scratch biopsy can be sent away and they can analyze it to see if there is anything wrong with the lining.
 
I know there are differing opinions on the scratch and the NK cells, but I'm living proof that they do help! Plus the rate at which my baby is growing is likely a direct result of the NK cells.

Whether there is scientific evidence to back things up or not, I'd rather think outside of the box and get a baby then keep doing the same thing over and over with the same result.. NO BABY. Food for thought.
 
Hi All -
Just jumping onto this thread now!
I'm going through testing for my FET currently. I'm planning to do it maybe toward the end of the year, which means I would start the protocol in the fall (pretty soon!) I was wondering how many of you had lupron or a similar drug to down regulate for your FET and how many did natural or used just estrogen from the start of the cycle? I've been discussing these options with my RE and he doesn't think natural (without any medications at all even hormones) is a good option for me, but I was curious about your experiences?
Thanks in advance and congratulations to the new BFPs - and for those with BFNs, I feel for you. This process is so hard. Please hang in there!
 
Kaylakin said:
Hi All -
Just jumping onto this thread now!
I'm going through testing for my FET currently. I'm planning to do it maybe toward the end of the year, which means I would start the protocol in the fall (pretty soon!) I was wondering how many of you had lupron or a similar drug to down regulate for your FET and how many did natural or used just estrogen from the start of the cycle? I've been discussing these options with my RE and he doesn't think natural (without any medications at all even hormones) is a good option for me, but I was curious about your experiences?
Thanks in advance and congratulations to the new BFPs - and for those with BFNs, I feel for you. This process is so hard. Please hang in there!
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I just had a FET, and it was successful (sort of). I have a BFP, but baby is not growing as quickly as he/she should be. So we'll see what is up next week. Hoping and praying [-o< that he/she is fine!

To answer your question, I did a lupron cycle with estrogen patches to prep for transfer. This was good to a point. The positives are that the FS doesn't need to see you as often and they can time your transfer to be convenient to the FS. That is IMO why they push for a HRT cycle. Personally, if your body is capable of ovulating and completing the cycle naturally, I would push for that. My lining was always stronger when we let my body do the work, also, with a natural cycle you have a corpus luteum that will create estrogen and progesterone so you won't need supplementation (or as much supplementation) through the first trimester. That is the other reason I would have preferred to have a natural FET cycle. If I have another FET I am going to push for it to be natural.
 
I agree w/Ali :) I'd try just about anything for baby!!

I did 1 cycle medicated and had bfp with perfect baby but unexplained fetal demise. Dr thinks it was hormonal due to the medicated fet and then when I went for 2nd fet I ovulated through the meds and converted to natural fet. This supported res thoughts I don't respond like I should to the meds for fet so he will only let me do natural. Its not convent for me and my work schedule but I make it work. Both have equal success rates. If you ovulate and have normalize cycles then natural would be good. But if you are not sure about ovulation etc then medicated. I'll be on progesterone through 12 wks either way but with Natural you can be on less mess for less time. Good luck!!
 
I'm also with Ali...plus scarring doesn't just occur... it takes months before you scar up and that's if you're not already pregnant by then. I've heard a lot of success stories with the scratch so why not join them other than thinking about what could go wrong. I'm not a dr but I know that it'll be hard for scar tissue to form around a baby. I can't comment about the NK cells cause I don't know much about it but Ali made it clear already.
 
Had another ultrasound today because I had some red spotting all day yesterday. Babies look great. They think its because I'm on blood thinners and having twins that I'm just more prone to bleed. They said its coming from the cervix and nothing is in the uterus. So I feel a lot better now.

Will do personals later
 
MoBaby said:
Ali did you get your results back today?
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I did.. hCG at 10,000 and P4 and E2 were fine. So we wait and hope and pray. I think there are plenty of success stories of people in my situation. Hopefully Wednesday will come soon!

Sweet.. good to hear that your bleeding is nothing to worry about! :thumbup:

How is everyone else?
 
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