Anyone doing FET/IVF in Jan 2013 till everyone's BFP (Everyone Welcome)

[scerena]

phantom brilliant news congrats again Hun

 

[ttcbaby117]

Thank you Time....I know what you are saying...after this last IUI cycle I truley welcomed the break on my body. I felt horrible. I kept thinking to myself...how am I to be pregnant and deal with the normal pregnancy issues when I am still dealing with these other horrible s/e.

Phantom - woohoo that is awesome!

 

[L4hope]

Great news phantom, congrats!

 

[alicatt]

Thanks for all the tips about meds!! We are completely self pay so every little bit of savings helps. I just heard back from the nurse and she had no idea about pharmacies other than the list printout they gave me of local pharmacies here in NYC.

Ali - wow, that is such an amazing discount you got!! I don't know if I have enough time for the overseas one but I will check it out the Canadian one.

BabyD - wow $250 is amazing! What great insurance! I used to have Oxford Freedom with my old company. Now I'm stuck with BCBS and no IVF coverage . My meds were around $4500 last cycle ugh.

L4 - good idea about asking for samples. Thanks!

Phantom and Lotus - I will check out MDR too thank you!

It really depends on the drugs that you need. Things like GonalF, Follistim, Menopur, Ganirelix are all cheaper in Canada or Europe, by quite a lot. When I was injecting 6 vials of Menopur at $72 a vial (US cost) for 5 days, you can see how it would make a difference to get them elsewhere. $72/vial is Freedom Pharmacy. I can't remember what I paid exactly but I think it was in the $30-40/vial range. If you are only doing a FET, then you only need the estrogen/progesterone meds and they are not nearly as costly. Plus they can often be run through insurance. I was able to run the progesterone through my insurance and it came up to $13.50 a vial which would last me 10 days, and without it was $49.99, that was with Freedom Pharmacy.

IVFMeds (England - needs 6-8 weeks notice):
https://secure.ivfmeds.com/store/index.cfm

Freedom Pharmacy (NE USA - can overnight):
https://www.freedomfertility.com/fertility-medications/medications-and-pricing.aspx

I wish I had a link to the Canadian Pharmacy, but we didn't get that far. Still the above links should help. If you want, PM me and I will see if my FS office has the contact information for the Canadian Pharmacy so you could at least get their prices to compare. Being Canadian I have no problem using a Canadian pharmacy. The issue is that there are so many that advertise on the web that it is difficult to figure out which ones are legit. So that is why I would make sure whatever pharmacy you are using has been vetted either by your FS, or a FS office that you trust.

Failing that you could see if IVF meds was able to ship your order faster? I think perhaps some of their back order issues were resolved. So they may be faster now.

 

[alicatt]

Levels are in--- 12dpt and I'm 813!!

Wonderful news! CONGRATS!!!

 

[LotusBlossom]

That's great, Phantom! Congrats to you and the parents! What a beautiful thing you are doing!

 

[alicatt]

Just curious...why is a FET more successful than a fresh cycle? If that is so then why dont they always freeze the embies? I am jsut asking as I wait here for my first IVF cycle. Does anyone think that asking them to do a FET with me is better?

There is increasing research that is showing that after a few unsuccessful fresh IVF's that going the FET route is more effective. It isn't for all women, but for some women their linings are just not very suitable for implantation following IVF. It has to do with the estrogen levels being really high. However my lining looked perfect both IVF cycles and we still didn't get a BFP. I'm going to be doing a FET in March.
Had I known now what I knew back then, I would have opted for what they call a bridged cycle where you do the EC/ER one month, then do the transfer 1-2 months later. It is something to discuss with your FS.

Things that might prompt me to do it that way in the future if I ever do another IVF:

1) e2 levels really high (over 3500)
2) bloating before trigger, that got even worse after trigger
3) lining before trigger being less than optimal (not triple layer and not between 9-13mm)

If any of these things, and I'd seriously consider doing the bridged cycle.

Other things to consider, some clinics are better at freezing/thawing than others. So talk to your FS about that. They may charge you more since you are going to have to be monitored for 2 cycles to ensure you transfer on the right day.

Definitely review all of this with your FS.. these are simply my notes from my previous IVFs that have failed and I've wondered after the fact whether we should have moved forward, and now I wish we hadn't because I wasted 4 beautiful embryos! I still have 4 pretty good ones (4AA) but I wasted 4 5-6AA embryos

I hoep that helps!

 

[alicatt]

Also spoke with the nurse about PGD and transfer. Ugh, it sounds like I have to do exactly what I did the last two times and freeze the embryos this cycle for a FET in March . I was sooo looking forward to transfer. She said my RE will call to discuss but that he almost always recommends FET because the endometrium is more receptive when the estrogen level is lower. She said the success rates are so much higher for FET.

Well, at least I know what to expect and obviously I want to do what has the best success rate. I'm just bummed because I want to be pregnant now! Not in March! Ok, it's not that long of a wait. I'll get over it

As I posted to TTC, and you already know, if you have high quality blasts, your chances are likely higher on FET than fresh. I understand your frustration though! Delays, and medical insurance and tax reasons! Get that baby born in 2013!

I was thinking though, normal gestation rates are lower for twins, so maybe we just need to get pregnant in March with twins!

 

[everhopeful]

Phantom - that's excellent news!! Congrats to you and the parents!! Xx

 

[LotusBlossom]

Also spoke with the nurse about PGD and transfer. Ugh, it sounds like I have to do exactly what I did the last two times and freeze the embryos this cycle for a FET in March . I was sooo looking forward to transfer. She said my RE will call to discuss but that he almost always recommends FET because the endometrium is more receptive when the estrogen level is lower. She said the success rates are so much higher for FET.

Well, at least I know what to expect and obviously I want to do what has the best success rate. I'm just bummed because I want to be pregnant now! Not in March! Ok, it's not that long of a wait. I'll get over it

As I posted to TTC, and you already know, if you have high quality blasts, your chances are likely higher on FET than fresh. I understand your frustration though! Delays, and medical insurance and tax reasons! Get that baby born in 2013!

I was thinking though, normal gestation rates are lower for twins, so maybe we just need to get pregnant in March with twins!

Haha! I love that plan, Ali!

Em & Ali- My transfer is Feb 20 and if it works I will be due on Nov 8 with a single. If it's twins, I would be due around Oct 22. You still have time to have a 2013 baby with a Mar transfer! Fingers crossed for both of you! I saw my previous ob/gyn yesterday for an annual exam (I feel like this could have been done by my current Dr, but whatever) and she also said she has seen more success with FET. I sure hope so, because this is our last chance for at least a year. I feel prett good about it, though.

 

[alicatt]

Also spoke with the nurse about PGD and transfer. Ugh, it sounds like I have to do exactly what I did the last two times and freeze the embryos this cycle for a FET in March . I was sooo looking forward to transfer. She said my RE will call to discuss but that he almost always recommends FET because the endometrium is more receptive when the estrogen level is lower. She said the success rates are so much higher for FET.

Well, at least I know what to expect and obviously I want to do what has the best success rate. I'm just bummed because I want to be pregnant now! Not in March! Ok, it's not that long of a wait. I'll get over it

As I posted to TTC, and you already know, if you have high quality blasts, your chances are likely higher on FET than fresh. I understand your frustration though! Delays, and medical insurance and tax reasons! Get that baby born in 2013!

I was thinking though, normal gestation rates are lower for twins, so maybe we just need to get pregnant in March with twins!

Haha! I love that plan, Ali!

Em & Ali- My transfer is Feb 20 and if it works I will be due on Nov 8 with a single. If it's twins, I would be due around Oct 22. You still have time to have a 2013 baby with a Mar transfer! Fingers crossed for both of you! I saw my previous ob/gyn yesterday for an annual exam (I feel like this could have been done by my current Dr, but whatever) and she also said she has seen more success with FET. I sure hope so, because this is our last chance for at least a year. I feel prett good about it, though.

Yep! Only problem is that I'm literally running out of time! I still don't have AF, and she needs to appear SOON. My cycles run about 30-33 days. So I could be looking at late March or early April for my FET transfer. OK for a singleton the last possible FET transfer date would be April 14th (that would give me an ovulation date of April 9th), and a due date of Dec 31st! Of course babies come early/late so your due date is only an estimate. Still, it is good to know what the dates are. For twins we have until May 7th to transfer (ovulation of May 2nd). OK I think I can make those windows, but it will be cutting it close!

 

[scerena]

ali I love the plan of dates I hope we all make it

LotusBlossom that's great your chances will be higher with the FET fx'd you get your bfp

 

[LotusBlossom]

Welcome, Scerena! Sorry I've been slacking lately with keeping up with everyone. It's wonderful that you are offering to share your eggs with another woman. What a generous thing to do! I hope they find a match soon. You are gorgeous, so those ladies will be lucky to get your pretty eggies.

Ali- My Dr used the BCP to bring on AF. I didn't wait for another cycle. I won't get the until next week, but started my Lupron today. It seems to be just fine. Maybe you would have had to start them a while ago. I don't know. I hope she shows up soon so you can get moving!

AFM: DH came home yesterday and said we might have to move to FL instead of VA. Either way, it's going to be crazy, but VA is closer to family. I was bummed, but it's not for sure yet, so who knows?

I hope everyone else is well.

 

[scerena]

lotus thank you for the welcome and thank you for the lovely compliment I hope they match me sooner rather than later...
I'm thinking of maybe calling up tomorrow to see if they think I should go to another clinic?

How come you are moving? Is it to do with work? I hope everything falls into place for you

 

[LotusBlossom]

lotus thank you for the welcome and thank you for the lovely compliment I hope they match me sooner rather than later...
I'm thinking of maybe calling up tomorrow to see if they think I should go to another clinic?

How come you are moving? Is it to do with work? I hope everything falls into place for you

It's not a bad idea to at least ask, so then you won't have to wait around unnecessarily.

I'm moving because my husband is in the military. His next duty station keeps changing, so it's tough to plan anything. We thought we were definitely moving to VA, but it may change now. I have to find a new Dr, so hopefully we find out soon and we can schedule the move. I'm sure it will all work out, I just hate not knowing the plan.

 

[Em260]

Levels are in--- 12dpt and I'm 813!!

Yay Phantom!!! Congrats!!

 

[Em260]

Also spoke with the nurse about PGD and transfer. Ugh, it sounds like I have to do exactly what I did the last two times and freeze the embryos this cycle for a FET in March . I was sooo looking forward to transfer. She said my RE will call to discuss but that he almost always recommends FET because the endometrium is more receptive when the estrogen level is lower. She said the success rates are so much higher for FET.

Well, at least I know what to expect and obviously I want to do what has the best success rate. I'm just bummed because I want to be pregnant now! Not in March! Ok, it's not that long of a wait. I'll get over it

As I posted to TTC, and you already know, if you have high quality blasts, your chances are likely higher on FET than fresh. I understand your frustration though! Delays, and medical insurance and tax reasons! Get that baby born in 2013!

I was thinking though, normal gestation rates are lower for twins, so maybe we just need to get pregnant in March with twins!

Haha! I love that plan, Ali!

Em & Ali- My transfer is Feb 20 and if it works I will be due on Nov 8 with a single. If it's twins, I would be due around Oct 22. You still have time to have a 2013 baby with a Mar transfer! Fingers crossed for both of you! I saw my previous ob/gyn yesterday for an annual exam (I feel like this could have been done by my current Dr, but whatever) and she also said she has seen more success with FET. I sure hope so, because this is our last chance for at least a year. I feel prett good about it, though.

Yep! Only problem is that I'm literally running out of time! I still don't have AF, and she needs to appear SOON. My cycles run about 30-33 days. So I could be looking at late March or early April for my FET transfer. OK for a singleton the last possible FET transfer date would be April 14th (that would give me an ovulation date of April 9th), and a due date of Dec 31st! Of course babies come early/late so your due date is only an estimate. Still, it is good to know what the dates are. For twins we have until May 7th to transfer (ovulation of May 2nd). OK I think I can make those windows, but it will be cutting it close!

Ali and Lotus - I seriously love that you both plan out the due dates. I do that too and it drives my loved ones crazy hehe. I just like to have a plan because it calms me down. And I'll admit I've been shopping a little for baby clothes for a little one born in the winter . I'm only transferring a single embryo, even though I would LOVE twins, so my due date will be around December 8th.

I'm feeling better about the whole FET thing now. I just needed time to wrap my head around doing two more cycles instead of one. I've got a lot of rearranging to do for March because we were planning a vacation and I don't think that's going to happen now. Oh well, it will be so worth it!!

 

[Em260]

Welcome, Scerena! Sorry I've been slacking lately with keeping up with everyone. It's wonderful that you are offering to share your eggs with another woman. What a generous thing to do! I hope they find a match soon. You are gorgeous, so those ladies will be lucky to get your pretty eggies.

Ali- My Dr used the BCP to bring on AF. I didn't wait for another cycle. I won't get the until next week, but started my Lupron today. It seems to be just fine. Maybe you would have had to start them a while ago. I don't know. I hope she shows up soon so you can get moving!

AFM: DH came home yesterday and said we might have to move to FL instead of VA. Either way, it's going to be crazy, but VA is closer to family. I was bummed, but it's not for sure yet, so who knows?

I hope everyone else is well.

Ooh that's a huge difference between VA and FL. I used to live in northern VA and loved it but FL would be so nice for the weather. When will you know for sure?

 

[LotusBlossom]

Ooh that's a huge difference between VA and FL. I used to live in northern VA and loved it but FL would be so nice for the weather. When will you know for sure?

We're not sure when they will tell us, but maybe next week. We've been planning this for over 6 months, so it's just a shock to have to change gears. We were planning to buy a house and have been searching! I should have known better than to make plans. That's just not how military life works. It will be ok either way.

 

[Em260]

Ooh that's a huge difference between VA and FL. I used to live in northern VA and loved it but FL would be so nice for the weather. When will you know for sure?

We're not sure when they will tell us, but maybe next week. We've been planning this for over 6 months, so it's just a shock to have to change gears. We were planning to buy a house and have been searching! I should have known better than to make plans. That's just not how military life works. It will be ok either way.

Well hopefully you will still be headed to VA. What a pain to plan for 6 months and then hear news like that