Anyone doing FET/IVF in Jan 2013 till everyone's BFP (Everyone Welcome)
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soo RE happy to see me. He wanted to know why I was thinking now and if I was sure and I told him I am ready to move beyond ivf and ttc and get back to normal life and I'm want to have my kids close together so I can just enjoy them. He understood.
So I start at end of month. Af will be nov 29th. I will do all labs, baseline ultrasound and do bcp 3-4 weeks.
We are doing identical protocol. Microdose lupron flare. He said although my amh and fsh and labs are good I responded much better to a more aggressive protocol and higher stims. So that's what we will do.
He wants to transfer only 1.... I'm not sure how I feel about that. DS came from 2 being transferred. I want to be aggressive but I'm not sure.
He said he doesn't recommend pgd because it doesn't improve success rate all that much in women under 35. And my miscarriages were all genetically normal so he doesn't feel the need to.
Fresh vs frozen: he sees no reason why not to do fresh but if I want to do frozen in natural cycle I could. We risk losing good embryos. I did get pregnant on a regular ivf cycle before and had a chemical so idk. I'm not sure what to do. If I do fresh it will be January transfer and frozen March.
So saline ultrasound, labs and bcp beginning of December. Stims starting January. Ec middle to end of January with a transfer wither 3 day or 5 day
Oh and they have a new ivf center so no more going to the surgery center. It's nice and quaint and relaxed. He said they have also seen a huge improvement in embryo development because they built a new lab and changed some things. So I'm hopeful
So I start at end of month. Af will be nov 29th. I will do all labs, baseline ultrasound and do bcp 3-4 weeks.
We are doing identical protocol. Microdose lupron flare. He said although my amh and fsh and labs are good I responded much better to a more aggressive protocol and higher stims. So that's what we will do.
He wants to transfer only 1.... I'm not sure how I feel about that. DS came from 2 being transferred. I want to be aggressive but I'm not sure.
He said he doesn't recommend pgd because it doesn't improve success rate all that much in women under 35. And my miscarriages were all genetically normal so he doesn't feel the need to.
Fresh vs frozen: he sees no reason why not to do fresh but if I want to do frozen in natural cycle I could. We risk losing good embryos. I did get pregnant on a regular ivf cycle before and had a chemical so idk. I'm not sure what to do. If I do fresh it will be January transfer and frozen March.
So saline ultrasound, labs and bcp beginning of December. Stims starting January. Ec middle to end of January with a transfer wither 3 day or 5 day
Oh and they have a new ivf center so no more going to the surgery center. It's nice and quaint and relaxed. He said they have also seen a huge improvement in embryo development because they built a new lab and changed some things. So I'm hopeful
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So exciting you're starting soon Mo!! You have some tough decisions. It's hard not to look at what worked in the past and want to do the same thing. I would probably want to transfer 2 as well. Am I remembering correctly though that you can't carry twins? Tho they say it doesn't increase your odds of twins by very much. Oh decisions decisions. But very exciting about the new and improved lab and a more comfortable setting for office visits!
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It would be a very stressful pregnancy. My uterus is only half the size of a normal so carrying 1 is like twins so 2 would be like quads. It would be over crowded for sure and I would be a greater risk than I am for uterine rupture, preterm labor and other complications. But in my mind I've been pregnant 3 times with a single baby. Two of those times were double transfers. Only one was a single. And I've had 2 chemicals with double transfers so I feel like I need to do 2 but I'm scared to now. I'm at more risk the next pregnancy because now I have 3 scars on my uterus.
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L4- things are going well. I'm 35 weeks tomorrow. Right now Dr is saying that all is looking good for a vaginal delivery. I am terrified, but I know it will all work out. Baby is moving like a maniac and it feels like he is trying to escape through my abdomen sometimes. 
DH gets home next week and I can't wait for him to feel our boy move. I'm so excited for you! I hope you are feeling good.
Mo- that sounds awesome! I know it is hard to make all those choices... I prefer fresh cycles to frozen at least at first. It just seems more natural even though I realize that we are doing this whole ttc thing in a less natural manner. I can't wait to hear how your cycle goes. It's crazy to start up again, isn't it? We've talked about our future plans, but we really have no idea what our next step will be. Right now we are just looking forward to our little man and probably moving back to HI.
DH gets home next week and I can't wait for him to feel our boy move. I'm so excited for you! I hope you are feeling good. Mo- that sounds awesome! I know it is hard to make all those choices... I prefer fresh cycles to frozen at least at first. It just seems more natural even though I realize that we are doing this whole ttc thing in a less natural manner. I can't wait to hear how your cycle goes. It's crazy to start up again, isn't it? We've talked about our future plans, but we really have no idea what our next step will be. Right now we are just looking forward to our little man and probably moving back to HI.
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Yes it is crazy to start up again!
It looks like I'll start bcp a month later than I thought so at end of December instead. That's okay with me. I read the paperwork wrong and you have bloodwork, ultrasound and saline sonogram first period then start bcp next period.
It looks like I'll start bcp a month later than I thought so at end of December instead. That's okay with me. I read the paperwork wrong and you have bloodwork, ultrasound and saline sonogram first period then start bcp next period.
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Mo- That's great you're starting soon! Like you I got pregnant with 2 embies transferred. I remember day of transfer, the RE had to leave the room to allow Dh and I to decide and I'm happy I stuck to my guts and opted out for 2 instead of 1.
Honestly I dont know if I would have been pregnant either way but I'm happy at least one stuck. I've heard the chances of having twins increases after each pregnancy and I was really nervous about transferring 2 again but I did, and we have one strong heartbeat.
Good luck and I hope it all works out for you
Honestly I dont know if I would have been pregnant either way but I'm happy at least one stuck. I've heard the chances of having twins increases after each pregnancy and I was really nervous about transferring 2 again but I did, and we have one strong heartbeat.
Good luck and I hope it all works out for you
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I think you are right mum. Once you've had a pregnancy from what I understand you are more likely to have a successful transfer following so i would think the chance of two sticking would be higher. Also I know that transferring 2 only increases chances of twins but with my odds I feel like I should do 2. We could always do one and freeze the other assuming I will have at least 2 good ones. Hoping to have a few frosties just in case and who knows I may want another baby after this one in a few year.
How's is everyone?
Lotus: how are you feeling?
Mo: anything new?
Ash: what's the latest?
L4: how's it going?
Everyone that I missed:
AFM, I'm going to attempt to start a fresh cycle with AF, expected in a week! This would mean a retrieval just after the New Year and transfer, after PGD and freezing, maybe a month later. It all depends on my thyroid staying under control, but I'm excited, as this is a couple months sooner than I thought. Anyway, hoping for a late Jan/early Feb transfer
Lotus: how are you feeling?
Mo: anything new?
Ash: what's the latest?
L4: how's it going?
Everyone that I missed:
AFM, I'm going to attempt to start a fresh cycle with AF, expected in a week! This would mean a retrieval just after the New Year and transfer, after PGD and freezing, maybe a month later. It all depends on my thyroid staying under control, but I'm excited, as this is a couple months sooner than I thought. Anyway, hoping for a late Jan/early Feb transfer
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No news for me. Just waiting for af which according to my ovulation symptoms may be 3-5 days later than expected.
That's great about your starting soon! Our transfers should be around same time. I am hoping to start bcp with next af but it would be a cd3 start so have to make sure re okay with that. Then cycle would be early jan vs if I have to wait it would be late jan-feb sometime.
That's great about your starting soon! Our transfers should be around same time. I am hoping to start bcp with next af but it would be a cd3 start so have to make sure re okay with that. Then cycle would be early jan vs if I have to wait it would be late jan-feb sometime.
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first - must be so surreal to be starting again! Best of luck!
I'm just hanging around. I got my period late but it finally came yesterday so today is CD 2. I have to go in for blood work tomorrow and then send it out to my clinic in Colorado. That should be interesting. I don't start my cycle until February and I'm also doing CCS so the transfer won't be until March/April-ish. I can't wait to get started but another part of me is very nervous. My doctor is confident that our embryos will do better at their lab but I'm very nervous because he also said if the attrition rate it the same at their lab as it was at the other fertility lab we were at and the results come back normal from the CCS, it's either really bad luck (which he doubts because everything else between my husband and I looks great) or I just have bad eggs (and since there's only so many tests they can do to look at egg quality that could very well be the case). I'm ready after this to move on to DE if the attrition rate is still really horrible. My hubby doesn't like that I get ahead of myself but I just like to have a solid plan.
I'm just hanging around. I got my period late but it finally came yesterday so today is CD 2. I have to go in for blood work tomorrow and then send it out to my clinic in Colorado. That should be interesting. I don't start my cycle until February and I'm also doing CCS so the transfer won't be until March/April-ish. I can't wait to get started but another part of me is very nervous. My doctor is confident that our embryos will do better at their lab but I'm very nervous because he also said if the attrition rate it the same at their lab as it was at the other fertility lab we were at and the results come back normal from the CCS, it's either really bad luck (which he doubts because everything else between my husband and I looks great) or I just have bad eggs (and since there's only so many tests they can do to look at egg quality that could very well be the case). I'm ready after this to move on to DE if the attrition rate is still really horrible. My hubby doesn't like that I get ahead of myself but I just like to have a solid plan.
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Hi ash knows best. I just wanted to ask you some questions/share my experience in case it may help. I hope you dont mind.
How many eggs have you had retrieved vs fertilization?
What meds or supplements have you taken during your cycles?
My first cycle my dh and I looked like we were mostly without issues. I had 24 eggs retrieved and only 3 fertilized. (Developed severe ohss and in hospital for a week). At my follow up the dr said my eggs were terrible quality as proof of only having 3/24. But I read lots that sometimes when stim doses are too high it can damage egg quality. On my next two cycles I changed things 1. Take metformin even though pcos bloodwork indicated not necessary -as apparently it can improve egg quality 2. Take a supplement multivitamin that had been used in a research study on women with Ivf failures and egg quality issues. (Can't remember the name off the top of my head but can find outif you want). 3. Very very very low stim doses. On my second cycle I had 10 eggs retrieved and I had my first dd. on my third cycle I had 6 retrieved and have my twin girls and have one frozen still.
Anyway hoping for you xxxx
Also peeked at your blog and I felt like that at Christmas always too. It's hard but one day you will share that with your little one. And that wreath is absolutely stunning!!!!!
How many eggs have you had retrieved vs fertilization?
What meds or supplements have you taken during your cycles?
My first cycle my dh and I looked like we were mostly without issues. I had 24 eggs retrieved and only 3 fertilized. (Developed severe ohss and in hospital for a week). At my follow up the dr said my eggs were terrible quality as proof of only having 3/24. But I read lots that sometimes when stim doses are too high it can damage egg quality. On my next two cycles I changed things 1. Take metformin even though pcos bloodwork indicated not necessary -as apparently it can improve egg quality 2. Take a supplement multivitamin that had been used in a research study on women with Ivf failures and egg quality issues. (Can't remember the name off the top of my head but can find outif you want). 3. Very very very low stim doses. On my second cycle I had 10 eggs retrieved and I had my first dd. on my third cycle I had 6 retrieved and have my twin girls and have one frozen still.
Anyway hoping for you xxxx
Also peeked at your blog and I felt like that at Christmas always too. It's hard but one day you will share that with your little one. And that wreath is absolutely stunning!!!!!
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I seemed to get a lot of eggs but a small number of embryos.
Cycle 1: 14 embryos from 19 eggs: 2 blasts and none frozen
Cycle 2: 12 embryos from 17 eggs: 2 blasts none frozen
Cycle 3: changed things up a bit and had 12 embryos from 22 eggs with 2 transferred and 4 frozen.
So maybe a change up is what you need. Also my re told me recently that they have a new state of the art ivf lab with the best air quality control in the nation (their lab was just completed last October) and they have seen significantly better embryo growth and development. So maybe a new lab is what you need too. Fingers crossed!
I know how you feel about the holidays. I used to get so upset. It's hard not too. But I had to keep telling myself it's not their fault. I can't be bitter towards them. I will get through this. Made it slightly more bearable. I still find myself getting upset over another pregnancy announcement for ppl who get preggo by looking at sperm even after LO. Infertility is not fair!
Cycle 1: 14 embryos from 19 eggs: 2 blasts and none frozen
Cycle 2: 12 embryos from 17 eggs: 2 blasts none frozen
Cycle 3: changed things up a bit and had 12 embryos from 22 eggs with 2 transferred and 4 frozen.
So maybe a change up is what you need. Also my re told me recently that they have a new state of the art ivf lab with the best air quality control in the nation (their lab was just completed last October) and they have seen significantly better embryo growth and development. So maybe a new lab is what you need too. Fingers crossed!
I know how you feel about the holidays. I used to get so upset. It's hard not too. But I had to keep telling myself it's not their fault. I can't be bitter towards them. I will get through this. Made it slightly more bearable. I still find myself getting upset over another pregnancy announcement for ppl who get preggo by looking at sperm even after LO. Infertility is not fair!
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blue - So I've had 3 fresh cycles of IVF. With all 3 I've gotten anywhere from 22-25 eggs. Around 10-15 always fertilize but by day 5 I only ever have 2-3. That's how I got 2 frozen for my most recent FET which was also a failure. I'm always on a pretty low dose of stims because of how I respond. I produce that many eggs with the lowest dose of each of the medication they can give me .... scary! I've had very very mild OHSS, didn't require hospitalization. My previous doctor never put me on any supplements, just prenatal vitamins (another reason I'm switching clinics) however, my new doctor although we haven't spoke in detail about my cycle yet and the plan since it isn't until February doesn't seem to want to put me on a ton of supplements anyways. And since I'm doing the Acai berry study through them I can't be on the other cocktail they put women on.
Could you find out the name of that supplement they put you on? Thanks!
Thanks about the wreath and for all of the info! I'm hoping that since we're at a clinical lab (they have to be very strict about their protocol and I'm sure they have a very clean lab, maybe that will be the change I need to have healthy embryos. Maybe a reach but ... just hoping for the best)
Mo - My doctor did say that sometimes all you need is a different lab and since they're research and clinical they have to meet very strict guidelines and things like that. I'm hoping that does the trick for us. I know this doesn't happen for everybody but the doctor said that he's seen women not be able to get their eggs to blastocyst and they come to their clinic and they get 5 beautiful blastocyst. So fx'd I'm one of those lucky ladies! My honey is also getting karyotyping done today to see if maybe that's why all of our embryos suck. I've had it done already and mine came back normal so .... FX'd!
My therapist also told me that if I want to be bitter, sad, and angry that I'm able to do just that
I'm not going to call them out on facebook or yell at them but my feelings are mine and I can feel anyway I'd like. Not that you're telling me I can't, I just don't think it's fair when you're struggling with infertility to be told that you shouldn't/can't blame other people. I mean you feel the way you feel and it's such a hard thing to go through I think you're entitled to that. No hard feelings towards you I just wanted to put that out there that I don't feel bad about my negative feelings towards certain pregnant women or women who already have children, so you shouldn't either. It doesn't make you/me/or anyone a bad person for feeling this way.
l4hope - I've heard/read that in a lot of blogs lately. I'm sure the feeling doesn't totally subside but .... I'm hoping over the years when I finally have my child it will get a tad bit better.
Could you find out the name of that supplement they put you on? Thanks!
Thanks about the wreath and for all of the info! I'm hoping that since we're at a clinical lab (they have to be very strict about their protocol and I'm sure they have a very clean lab, maybe that will be the change I need to have healthy embryos. Maybe a reach but ... just hoping for the best)
Mo - My doctor did say that sometimes all you need is a different lab and since they're research and clinical they have to meet very strict guidelines and things like that. I'm hoping that does the trick for us. I know this doesn't happen for everybody but the doctor said that he's seen women not be able to get their eggs to blastocyst and they come to their clinic and they get 5 beautiful blastocyst. So fx'd I'm one of those lucky ladies! My honey is also getting karyotyping done today to see if maybe that's why all of our embryos suck. I've had it done already and mine came back normal so .... FX'd!
My therapist also told me that if I want to be bitter, sad, and angry that I'm able to do just that
I'm not going to call them out on facebook or yell at them but my feelings are mine and I can feel anyway I'd like. Not that you're telling me I can't, I just don't think it's fair when you're struggling with infertility to be told that you shouldn't/can't blame other people. I mean you feel the way you feel and it's such a hard thing to go through I think you're entitled to that. No hard feelings towards you I just wanted to put that out there that I don't feel bad about my negative feelings towards certain pregnant women or women who already have children, so you shouldn't either. It doesn't make you/me/or anyone a bad person for feeling this way.l4hope - I've heard/read that in a lot of blogs lately. I'm sure the feeling doesn't totally subside but .... I'm hoping over the years when I finally have my child it will get a tad bit better.
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Hi Everyone So excited for all those beginning the journey again and I look forward to all the BFPs to come. Although we wont be joining this time around I am excited for you all!
My girls are 8 months old and I cant believe it!
So excited for all those beginning the journey again and I look forward to all the BFPs to come. Although we wont be joining this time around I am excited for you all!My girls are 8 months old and I cant believe it!
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