Anyone else have high DHEA levels?

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Before we conceived we knew I had a hormonal imbalance, but the doc wasnt quite sure (and still isnt) what it was. I have raised levels of DHEA and sometimes testosterone (it varies every test). And no, I don't have PCOS. The next step was a scan of my adrenal glands to rule out tumors, but I got pregnant so that was out. Then we were going to do some dexamethasone to try to bring the levels down. Well the pregnancy failed and I had my levels tested again about 4 days before the miscarriage, and they came back higher than ever in the 500s range. I think the upper 200s are normal.

I'm just looking for anyone else who may have the same problem, and if so what was the treatment? I have been scouring the internet and have found that DHEA levels can contribute to miscarriage. Also the treatment of steroids shouldnt be taken in pregnancy, but have been used successfully where the benefits outweighed the risks. So I am really anxious to get the medicine so we can begin again, but I'm just not finding much info. Any help is appreciated.
 
Ok so I know this was posted a long time ago, but this post was the only reason I joined BnB. I had elevated DHEAS levels and that's whats been determined to be my cause if infertility. Have you found anything out at all?!?
 
Ok so I know this was posted a long time ago, but this post was the only reason I joined BnB. I had elevated DHEAS levels and that's whats been determined to be my cause if infertility. Have you found anything out at all?!?

Wow never thought I anyone would ever reply to this.. My endocrinologist tried metformin with me but I couldnt tolerate the gastrointestinal symptoms. He started me on Dexamethasone which lowered the levels. Within 3 months I was pregnant with a sticky baby this time. How long have you been trying? If you have any more questions feel free to ask!
 
I have never even heard of this test. I wonder if this is my problem...
 
One thing it can also lead to is high testosterone, mine was also elevated. This can cause excessive hair growth, most noticeable on the face.
 
Ok so I know this was posted a long time ago, but this post was the only reason I joined BnB. I had elevated DHEAS levels and that's whats been determined to be my cause if infertility. Have you found anything out at all?!?

Wow never thought I anyone would ever reply to this.. My endocrinologist tried metformin with me but I couldnt tolerate the gastrointestinal symptoms. He started me on Dexamethasone which lowered the levels. Within 3 months I was pregnant with a sticky baby this time. How long have you been trying? If you have any more questions feel free to ask!

I went to the ER from the side effects of metformin. I felt like I couldn't move. It put me in the worlds worst mood and I would nod in and out. I couldn't take care of myself or my son. I stopped taking it...that's also how we found out about my high DHEAS. My gynocologist then referred me to a reporductive endocrinologist who totally dismissed my symptoms and std that my infertility was because I'm overweight (I'm about 25 lbs over weight, but I'd lost 50 and I'm still losing). I've got a drs appt this Thursday and I want her to retest my levels. Most I know with high DHEAS don't get AF or ovulate. I do. Regularly. I track my cycles with OPKs. I have been trying to conceive sinc january '10 on and off. By off I mean not trying to prevent it but not consciously trying. Your post gave me hope, as I don't have much anymore. What is dexamethasone and what levels did it lower? Thank you so much for responding
 
Ok so I know this was posted a long time ago, but this post was the only reason I joined BnB. I had elevated DHEAS levels and that's whats been determined to be my cause if infertility. Have you found anything out at all?!?

Wow never thought I anyone would ever reply to this.. My endocrinologist tried metformin with me but I couldnt tolerate the gastrointestinal symptoms. He started me on Dexamethasone which lowered the levels. Within 3 months I was pregnant with a sticky baby this time. How long have you been trying? If you have any more questions feel free to ask!

I went to the ER from the side effects of metformin. I felt like I couldn't move. It put me in the worlds worst mood and I would nod in and out. I couldn't take care of myself or my son. I stopped taking it...that's also how we found out about my high DHEAS. My gynocologist then referred me to a reporductive endocrinologist who totally dismissed my symptoms and std that my infertility was because I'm overweight (I'm about 25 lbs over weight, but I'd lost 50 and I'm still losing). I've got a drs appt this Thursday and I want her to retest my levels. Most I know with high DHEAS don't get AF or ovulate. I do. Regularly. I track my cycles with OPKs. I have been trying to conceive sinc january '10 on and off. By off I mean not trying to prevent it but not consciously trying. Your post gave me hope, as I don't have much anymore. What is dexamethasone and what levels did it lower? Thank you so much for responding

I'm so glad to hear my experience can make a difference with at least one other person! Dexamethasone is a steroid which will effectively lower DHEA/DHEAS and therefore also testosterone (since DHEA is converted into testosterone, if it is high it can make too much of it too) I didn't have any symptoms while on the meds at all. I was on .5mg. I also ovulated every single month, year after year with 28-31 day cycles.

I also have another theory that with these hormone levels being out of whack, maybe it causes our eggs to not survive as long as typical eggs. You need to find out right when you ovulate- it could make a world of difference. I say this because after many months of taking my temperature, and checking cervical mucus to pinpoint ovulation, we got pregnant on the very day I ovulated (the only time we did it at all that cycle). However, this was on the medication which I firmly believe did it.

I never saw a Reproductive Endocrinologist, just a general Endo. I ended up seeing him more often than my gyn, since they just weren't figuring it out! I hope you can find someone who will prescribe it- it wouldn't hurt to suggest it. Good luck :)
 
So much hope now. :) I've made a commitment to lose weight healthy and become as healthy as I can before June 4th which is my next endo appointment. I will then discuss this with her because I truly feel this is my answer. I just read a bunch more on this and how it's often an overlooked reason for infertility and how the drug u mentioned is doing wonders. Are you taking it while pregnant?
 
So much hope now. :) I've made a commitment to lose weight healthy and become as healthy as I can before June 4th which is my next endo appointment. I will then discuss this with her because I truly feel this is my answer. I just read a bunch more on this and how it's often an overlooked reason for infertility and how the drug u mentioned is doing wonders. Are you taking it while pregnant?

I took it until 13 weeks, which I should have stopped before that since it is a class D drug, but the docs said stay on it. I was terrified if I stopped it I'd lose our baby. When I switched doctors he said he'd have never had me on it after my bfp.

Not much is known about the condition-- or if its even a condition. So I guess docs just don't know what to do..
 
Did u have any side effects from it? The more I read about the drug the more nervous I get about taking it. And I'm sorry for all the replies lol
 
Did u have any side effects from it? The more I read about the drug the more nervous I get about taking it. And I'm sorry for all the replies lol

Don't be, I am happy to help. I felt alone the whole time I was going through this nightmare. I couldn't find anyone else who had the same problem...

One word of advice: don't google it! The only side effect I had was a slightly lowered immune system which can be combated by good handwashing practices and try staying away from sick people. At first I had a little sleeplessness with the meds, but it went away after a week or two- I took them at night so that is probably why. Some people experience weight gain with steroids but I didn't. Maybe it was because I actually needed them for my hormones to regulate, I don't know.

If you truly need it to correct a hormonal imbalance, use it. I'm pretty sure that anything more than 3 months is considered long-term use and can increase your risk of needing a shot of cortisol if you are in a life-threatening car accident of some kind that causes massive bleeding (your body CAN stop making enough of its own cortisol with long term use) You can either wear a medic bracelet, or wean off it after three months and give your body a break and restart it after that. It freaked me out a little too when the doc told me about the risks of long term use but to me it was worth it if it would get me pregnant. I would also stop it as soon as possible with a pregnancy, because it is a class D drug. Like I said before I took it up to 13 weeks.

With this medicine it's important to wean off, not just stop abruptly. I broke my pills in half over several days and then in half again, a total of 14 days.
 
Hello I was reading over these post & decided to join the forum. I was also diagnosed with high DHEA as a result of having non classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia at the end of Jan. My current reproduction then prescribed 5mg prednisone taken in half twice a day(2.5). My levels were extremely high 3500 not sure what unit of measure this was, but yesterday I did receive good news, that my tests from Wednesday showed my levels are now down to 700. I'm still so anxious & wondering if this means I could be expecting soon. I go back to see the Dr. May 22 do until then I was told to do whatever I've been doing & not to eat after 6:30p when possible & walk 30 mins. After meals at least twice a day.
 
hi, my dhea levels are also high and ive been having problems conceiving. my doctor wasnt very helpful in that area, so im in the middle of searching for a new doctor. in the meantime, ive been trying natural remedies but didnt really click it could be because of my high levels of dhea that i could have problems conceiving. i read that its possible to reduce the levels by eating licorice, eating sugarless foods, lots of greens and omega3 food products. ill try it and see if it works. good luck.
 
My doctor doesn't think it's an issue as mine aren't extremely elevated. He's proscribed me clomid supplement with estrogen and an ovidrel trigger shot, if my follies aren't big enough. I'd see a fertility specialist and consult with them.
 
Hello I was reading over these post & decided to join the forum. I was also diagnosed with high DHEA as a result of having non classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia at the end of Jan. My current reproduction then prescribed 5mg prednisone taken in half twice a day(2.5). My levels were extremely high 3500 not sure what unit of measure this was, but yesterday I did receive good news, that my tests from Wednesday showed my levels are now down to 700. I'm still so anxious & wondering if this means I could be expecting soon. I go back to see the Dr. May 22 do until then I was told to do whatever I've been doing & not to eat after 6:30p when possible & walk 30 mins. After meals at least twice a day.

Welcome! When I joined this forum I could find virtually no info on high DHEA, I hope this has been a help. Good luck!

hi, my dhea levels are also high and ive been having problems conceiving. my doctor wasnt very helpful in that area, so im in the middle of searching for a new doctor. in the meantime, ive been trying natural remedies but didnt really click it could be because of my high levels of dhea that i could have problems conceiving. i read that its possible to reduce the levels by eating licorice, eating sugarless foods, lots of greens and omega3 food products. ill try it and see if it works. good luck.

Have you seen an endocrinologist?

My doctor doesn't think it's an issue as mine aren't extremely elevated. He's proscribed me clomid supplement with estrogen and an ovidrel trigger shot, if my follies aren't big enough. I'd see a fertility specialist and consult with them.

My levels weren't very high either- only about 400-500 depending on when they were tested. I *believe* the norm is in the 300 range. I guess some people's reproductive systems have a delicate balance.. mine proved to be one of those.
 
My doctor doesn't think it's an issue as mine aren't extremely elevated. He's proscribed me clomid supplement with estrogen and an ovidrel trigger shot, if my follies aren't big enough. I'd see a fertility specialist and consult with them.

My levels weren't very high either- only about 400-500 depending on when they were tested. I *believe* the norm is in the 300 range. I guess some people's reproductive systems have a delicate balance.. mine proved to be one of those.[/QUOTE]
You're right about the normal range I believe. If this cycle doesn't give us some results, we're going to talk to him more about my DHEAS levels. He tested my cortisol (AM levels) and they were normal, so he was basing his opinion off from that. I'm still going to see my RE in June, and make sure were doing everything we can. :)
 
Hello, Ladies! :hi: I hope you won't mind me joining you. I usually post on the "Spouses With Low Sperm Count" and "Trying To Conceive Over 35" boards. I was happy to find your discussion about elevated DHEA-s levels.

I have been diagnosed with PCOS by other REs I have seen. (My sister, who is 19 years older than I am, was diagnosed with PCOS in 1975 by Dr. Robert Greenblatt. She had the classic case of PCOS. In 2005, she was diagnosed with Endometrial Cancer. She had a hysterectomy in 2007.) The RE my husband and I are seeing now, diagnosed me with Adult Growth Hormone Deficiency and a touch of PCOS.

Our RE has diagnosed my husband with high chloresterol and a testosterone level on the lower end of normal. My hubby also had a SA done which showed he had a low sperm count. He's had 4 SAs done now and has shown improvement with each one. We are still trying to get his morphology to improve.

Here are the results of DH's fourth semen analysis taken on March 16th –

PH – 8.1 - Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.1 – Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration – 42.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) – 60 – Normal greater than 50%
Progression – Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 25
B= Slow or Sluggish = 25
C= Non-Progression = 10
D= Non-Motile = 40
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms – 2%
Total Motile Sperm – 53.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes – yes
Viscosity – Normal
Appearance – Normal
Cell Debris – Yes
Cell Clumps – Yes
Agglutination – None
Comment: Poor Morphology

Here are the results of the first semen analysis taken on June 1, 2011 –

PH – 8.3 - Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.0 – Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration – 6.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) – 50 – Normal greater than 50%
Progression – Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 10
B= Slow or Sluggish = 30
C= Non-Progression = 10
D= Non-Motile = 50
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms – 4%
Total Motile Sperm – 6.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes – yes
Viscosity – Normal
Appearance – Less Opaque
Cell Debris – No
Cell Clumps – No
Agglutination – None
Comment: Oligozoospermia

Here are the results of the second semen analysis taken on July 15, 2011 –

PH – 8.0 - Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.0 – Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration – 10.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) – 41 – Normal greater than 50%
Progression – Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 10
B= Slow or Sluggish = 22
C= Non-Progression = 9
D= Non-Motile = 59
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms – 2%
Total Motile Sperm – 8.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes – yes
Viscosity – Normal
Appearance – Normal
Cell Debris – No
Cell Clumps – No
Agglutination – None

Here are the results of DH's third semen analysis taken on November 15, 2011 –

PH – 8.0 - Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.5 – Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration – 19.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) – 58 – Normal greater than 50%
Progression – Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 26
B= Slow or Sluggish = 21
C= Non-Progression = 11
D= Non-Motile = 42
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms – 3%
Total Motile Sperm – 28.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes – yes
Viscosity – Normal
Appearance – Less Opaque
Cell Debris – No
Cell Clumps – No
Agglutination – None

During my June 6th appointment, our RE ordered blood work and discussed plans with me for an ultrasound soon. Here’s what happened.

I went to my appointment nervous but determined that I was going to convince him to go through with the ultrasound he mentioned in December. One of my biggest problems is that I know what I need to say and that I need to be assertive, but I’m used to being soft spoken and following orders. I sat there practicing what I wanted to say and praying that I would be able to say it when the time came.

After he came in and been in the room for a couple of minutes, I decided I should start telling him what was on my mind. Suddenly, flashing through my mind was my post on the Trying To Conceive Over 35 board mentioning my often having brown blood periods in recent years and Grey Eye’s answer asking me if I had ever mentioned this to my doctor. I realized that this was something I did very much want to tell him about and had almost forgotten it.

Right then, I brought it up. He was interested. It was then that he ordered blood work and a pregnancy test. He said that if he determined that I wasn’t ovulating, we would begin medication. Then he went on to ask when my next period would start because he would order a sonogram done a week after my period starts.

WOW! All this only because Grey Eyes prompted me to tell him about the brown blood, and I had never thought too much about it.

He wanted to see me in a week. I made an appointment for June 15th. He wanted me to have blood work done on June 8th.

On June 8th, after my hubby’s graduation program and reception for his internship, I went to have my blood drawn.

I was still using the ovulation strips for a few more days. I finally saw the second line and it stayed there for a couple more days of testing but never darkened.

I went back yesterday, June 15th, for my follow-up appointment. I was still anxious because I wasn’t sure if our RE was going to change his mind about what we had talked about the week before. Thankfully, he hadn’t.

My DH was with me for yesterday’s appointment. (He was working at his internship last week.)

Our RE came in and told us my results which still have us shook up and really worried my DH. I felt so bad for my hubby.

Our RE said that I’m not ovulating and my DHEA-S and Prolactin was high. (Although later as my hubby and I were looking back over my test results, we noticed that my Prolactin level was listed as in range. I’m going to post my lab results for you to see.) He was prescribing 3 medications for me. One was Decadron or Dexamethasone 0.5 MG tablet to lower my DHEA-S level. The second medicine was Parlodel or Bromocriptine to lower the Prolactin level. I can’t remember how many milligrams he prescribed. I think it was 2.5? The pharmacy wouldn’t have it available for me until Monday afternoon after 4:00. Of course the third pill was Clomid. I’m supposed to start taking it on the 5th day of my period and take it for 5 days.

The day I start my period, I’m to call our RE as soon as possible, so he can set up an appointment for me to have the ultrasound to check my tubes. I should have started my period either this past Saturday or someday through the 19th if it stays on schedule.

Here are my blood work results –

DHEA-S 334.3 High Ref. Range 45.0-270.0
BHCG-Serum Ql Negative Ref. Range Negative
Prolactin 17.41 Ref. Range 2.8-29.90
Progesterone 0.45
Interpretive Data: Normal menstruating females:
Mid-Follicular phase 0.31-1.52
Mid-Luteal phase 5.16-18.56
Testosterone, Total 64.7 High Ref. Range 11.0-56.0
Testosterone, Free 15.4 High Ref. Range 1.3-9.2
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 19.7 Low Ref. Range 30.0-135.0

I talked to our RE about my adrenal level. I told him that when I was seeing another RE, she was very concerned about my DHEA-S level. Concerned enough to have me take a CAT Scan to check for tumors. The test was negative.

So far, I don’t have another appointment with our RE. Waiting until my period begins to get the ultrasound set up.

Our RE did bring up that he would probably want to do an insemination once we get things under control. I keep praying that we can still conceive naturally.

I took my first Decadron or Dexamethasone Friday night with supper.
 
Hi GeorgiaBelle! Glad you are getting some answers :)

How many months are you going to wait for the medication to try and work before you try for insemination, or is that an option with the SA? If the meds get you ovulating maybe you won't have to! FX'd :)

My Endo also referenced a CAT scan I had done the previous year to check for tumors. Funny how you never hear of things like that...
 
Hi, Whitbit22! :wave: Thank you for welcoming me to the board.

Right now, my period finally started on Wednesday and I called my RE's office to let them know. I'm supposed to have an ultrasound on Tuesday morning, June 26th. Right now, I'm working on getting my RE to understand that his office needs to call the radiology department to give them the date and time of the appointment I made with his office. I think he believes that because I work on the medical university's campus, I can just go over and tell them to do the ultrasound. :dohh:
 

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