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[jjbubbles28]

Yeah, it stinks. My SIL has 3 kids, 2 unplanned and 1 took one month of ttc. and she was told she couldnt have ids. Had my bloods today. should have results next week and then have to schedule sa before thanksgiving.

 

[KatO79]

So just got back from our first appointment with the fertility clinic

My hormone levels are all normal, for my age. So that's good DH needs to get a new SA done at the clinic as the ones he got done didn't specify how many are super mobile or something So he'll be giving a sample to the clinic on Friday so they can conduct they're own test and get more results as the ones they got from the lab weren't good enough. But based on the results of the ones he got done at the lab, it looked fine to her. The ultrasound looked good and it looks like my lining was good and that she could see I clearly Oed recently and fit in with my O date of November 1st.

So all in all very positive news She's guessing we'll need IUI but I need to get a HSG done so they're 100% sure.

 

[jjbubbles28]

thats good news so far. hope my results come back good as well.

 

[KatO79]

thats good news so far. hope my results come back good as well.

FX'ed for you jjbubbles28 Let us know when you find out

 

[bunyhuny]

KatO79- Great results, girl! Congrats. I hope your DH's next SA goes well. I'm hoping that they do your HSG and realize there was just some debris in your tubes that they can immediately flush out pre-IUI and you conceive immediately. I know that's happened to a couple girls on the LTTTC boards. Once their tubes were clear they went back to natural TTC and both conceived within a few months. I'll be keeping my FX'd for you!

Want1Too- I did two rounds of IUI, both with a combination of Clomid and Femara, hCG trigger, and both with multiple follicles. We were told early on that IUI would only have a 10-20% chance of success per cycle, so we switched to IVF after two rounds due to how pricey it was getting them done. (Two rounds of IUI in the US was the same cost as a round of IVF overseas.)

I never got a BFP with IUI, but I do think I had one momentarily implant once as I very much felt pregnant for two day. (With all my pregnancies I have started getting nauseous on 10"dpo" but not been able to get a positive on an HPT until several days later, even with positive betas.) I wasn't on progesterone for my IUI's so I didn't have that support either. I wish I'd had it, as they've found out now my hCG is always low at first and needs extra time to build up to stop AF, requiring a high dose of progesterone no matter what.

Anyway! Since they think I have an immunological issue at this point, I very well could have conceived, but the embryo may have been too damaged to implant correctly. Glad that January's FET will be one with Prednisone. (I'll probably also add in a pregnancy safe antihistamine, as those also reduce the chance of immunological miscarriage in lab studies.)

I honestly prefer IVF over IUI. It's a higher cost and much more intense, but it comes with a much, much, much higher chance of conception. Also, once we switched to IVF and I was able to get pregnant, we could then move on to figuring out what's causing my losses. (I had also lost a natural pregnancy with a boyfriend back in 2008.) Out of 5 IVF transfers, I've gotten 3 BFP's, so it's just a matter of figuring out how to make one stick (and not in my tubes).

 

[HCas]

Sounds great Kat!

Got my blood work done yesterday. They said I should know the results in a few days the results. Since then however I've been light headed and my arm has been really sore. Oh well I guess. I guess we are all in the waiting game at this point

 

[bunyhuny]

Posted this in my journal. It's a bit long, but interesting stuff if anyone feels like reading it all.

Been looking up info on some of the causes of recurrent miscarriage and found something interesting called the antihistamine protocol. Turns out some women are allergic to being pregnant- and some RE's treat it with a combo of prednisone, claratin or benadryl, and pepcid. (Used to be a standard protocol at CCRM.) The protocol isn't used often since doctors can't explain why it works, but in many cases it does. The guess is that some women are just allergic to being pregnant and the body goes on attack.

This is really interesting because last month I had my best starting beta at 14dpo ever- much higher than before. During the TWW, I was sick with the rhinovirus that was going around and was on NyQuil (which contains antihistamines) for the week leading up to my bfp. I stopped taking them the day before the BFP because I was well, and then my numbers didn't double fully and then dropped. However, when I took my ZzzQuil a couple times over the next week, I'd have a resurgence of pregnancy symptoms the following day. I looked at the back of the ZzzQuil and the active ingredient is the same thing that's in benadryl. At this point, I really think that antihistamines might help.

DH and I are also wondering if, since these histamine issues can kill an implanting blastocyst, can they also kill sperm? or a newly conceived embryo in the fallopian tubes? There are no studies on it at all yet, but it seems likely. It definitely would explain why we've never conceived naturally! If my histamine response is killing blastocysts with hundreds/thousands of cells, what would it do to a tiny single cell embryo or a sperm? I really think that may be why we didn't conceive years ago when DH's SA's were coming up great and I was ovulating regularly.

Interestingly, there have been previously infertile women (IUI, IVF, whole nine yards) who've treated themselves with just the claratin/benadryl and pepcid combo and gotten pregnant and carried to term. DH and I are going to try it that way for the two cycles between now and my next FET. Wouldn't it be amzing if we could actually conceive naturally? It would be a long shot since I only have my right tube now and I usually ovulate on the left, but since we can't do the FET now anyway, well, there's definitely no hard in it!

Anyway, antihistamines are totally safe to take every day (even during pregnancy) so it is totally fine to try. As soon as my hCG gets back down to <1, I'm going to start on them. (If it's not back under 1, being on antihistamines could encourage the last few placental cells to try to keep growing- and we definitely don't need that!)

 

[HCas]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Got a phone call from my doctor's office today. I have low Vitamin D so they''ll be starting me on that. However it turns out that when I went to get my sonogram what we believed to be a ruptured cyst wound up being ovulation and that was confirmed with the blood tests! So they expect me to have my period in 7-10 days. I'm kinda hoping it doesn't come, since we bded around that time XD

 

[KatO79]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Got a phone call from my doctor's office today. I have low Vitamin D so they''ll be starting me on that. However it turns out that when I went to get my sonogram what we believed to be a ruptured cyst wound up being ovulation and that was confirmed with the blood tests! So they expect me to have my period in 7-10 days. I'm kinda hoping it doesn't come, since we bded around that time XD

This may be a dumb question but how did your doctor know you have low Vit D I was told by my RE to up my dose to 35 mcg from the 10 mcg in my pregnancy vitamins (think it's to improve egg quality). But that's because she asked me how much I was taking. I was told to up Vit C to 500 mg a day as well.

Good to know you're Oing I know I was ecstatic when our RE pointed out she could see I Oed recently

You and me both, hoping that AF doesn't show up that is But for my sanity, I'm just expecting her to come this weekend and look forward to getting my HSG done so we have another answer and can get the ball rolling with starting IUI (Our RE says it's very unlikely I have blocked tubes but they need to check so they're 100% sure)

 

[HCas]

When they did my blood work they checked to make sure I had enough in my system.

I don't mind if she does show up so we can do the tests and get everything on the roll as well. Its just awesome to know I can O on my own. Though it would be amazing if she didn't show and we got a pos instead XD

 

[KatO79]

When they did my blood work they checked to make sure I had enough in my system.

I don't mind if she does show up so we can do the tests and get everything on the roll as well. Its just awesome to know I can O on my own. Though it would be amazing if she didn't show and we got a pos instead XD

Ok, they don't do that here so I was confused

Yeah we can dream I guess But I think I'll be more hopeful for the next cycle as I've heard some women got pregnant shortly after they got an HSG done. We'll see what happens

 

[HCas]

Really? That's interesting. I wonder why

 

[KatO79]

Really? That's interesting. I wonder why

Don't know either The only things they check for the CD3 blood test are FSH, LH, Estradiol, TSH, TPO (checks thyroid hormone synthesis), Prolactin, Rubella and AMH. If you're negative for Rubella anti-bodies then you need to get vaccinated and then put on hold for 3 months until the vaccine is in full effect. They also test your blood for HIV plus Hepatitis B and C.

 

[HCas]

Blah I'm soo tired Been working so much I didn't notice this week go by. Af is supposed to show up any day now and if she isn't here by wed. I think I might test. My breasts have been sore though and that's similar to one of my usual pms symptoms.

 

[KatO79]

Well AF showed up today, on time, so I'll be calling the HSG place on Monday as they're closed all weekend. On to cycle #16.

I'm bummed that I most likely won't be able to start IUI until January as I think the holiday vacation will get in the way and the clinic will suggest January instead

 

[Aiysh]

Hi everyone, sorry can I butt in? Ive been reading your posts and its so refreshing (and heartbreaking at the same time) that other people understand. Im ttc month 14 skipping 3/4 months that I took out for counselling to resolve my own past issues and be a better mum and minus a year NTNP. Ive been married 2 and a half years live in the UK ive had my initial testing done everything came back fine - i guess i ovulate as my 21 day blood came back fine and husbands SA was normal . We were meant to get referred although its been so frustrating as the doctors has messed me about and we didnt get referred in the end which means Ill have to do all the testing again and drag out another 3 months of testing waiting for results waiting for appt before i can even imagine any fertility treatment. As if ttc'ing wasn't stressful enough! DH and i have decided to go private (paying for treatment) and they can get me up and running in a month with medication the same cycle! it means ill be paying 2 months wages! (i dont work as many hours as id like). the things we would give up eh...

hows everyone doing???

 

[Aiysh]

Well AF showed up today, on time, so I'll be calling the HSG place on Monday as they're closed all weekend. On to cycle #16.

I'm bummed that I most likely won't be able to start IUI until January as I think the holiday vacation will get in the way and the clinic will suggest January instead

will you happen to be near fertile time on vacation? it may not be the worst thing as ive read loads of women falling preg when away because theyre so relaxed and happy! hopefully that could be the case for you ??

 

[Aiysh]

Blah I'm soo tired Been working so much I didn't notice this week go by. Af is supposed to show up any day now and if she isn't here by wed. I think I might test. My breasts have been sore though and that's similar to one of my usual pms symptoms.

heres to hoping! keep us updated! i like that works making the days go by and it forces me to get off this site (& others) and stop obssessing for a while - is it the same for u or am i just nuts?? lol

 

[HCas]

Haha nope it's the same for me too. Getting off this site kinda makes me stress less though I miss you ladies when I'm off. But now I work solely from home so I'm hoping to have a healthy balance XD

I keep seeing the test in the bathroom and wanting to use it. Its too hard to wait XD

 

[KatO79]

Well AF showed up today, on time, so I'll be calling the HSG place on Monday as they're closed all weekend. On to cycle #16.

I'm bummed that I most likely won't be able to start IUI until January as I think the holiday vacation will get in the way and the clinic will suggest January instead

will you happen to be near fertile time on vacation? it may not be the worst thing as ive read loads of women falling preg when away because theyre so relaxed and happy! hopefully that could be the case for you ??

Yes that's the problem as I'm assuming they'll want to induce O around the same time as I'd normally O We'll see what they say as I have to call them when I've had my HSG done to tell them the results, it's up to them if they think we can just reach it before they close

I actually tried the whole getting pregnant during a vacation this summer when we were in Russia and it didn't work We actually won't be away, it's the clinic that will be closed during the holidays, unfortunately