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In case you guys didn't see this in babyclub! Though it was funny!!

“Awake Training for Parents”

Dear Fellow Babies,
OK, here’s my situation. My Mommy has had me for almost 5 months. The first few months were great – I cried, she picked me up and fed me, anytime, around the clock. Then something happened. Over the last few weeks, she has been trying to STTN (sleep thru the night). At first, I thought it was just a phase, but it is only getting worse.
I’ve talked to other babies, and it seems like its pretty common after Mommies have had us for around 5-6 months. Here’s the thing: these Mommies don’t really need to sleep. It’s just a habit. Many of them have had some 30 years to sleep – they just don’t need it anymore. So I am implementing a plan. I call it the Crybaby Shuffle.

It goes like this:
Night 1 – cry every 3 hours until you get fed. I know, it’s hard. It’s hard to see your Mommy upset over your crying. Just keep reminding yourself, it’s for her own good.
Night 2 – cry every 2 hours until you get fed.
Night 3 – every hour.

Most Mommies will start to respond more quickly after about 3 nights. Some Mommies are more alert, and may resist the change longer. These Mommies may stand in your doorway for hours, shhhh-ing. Don’t give in. I cannot stress this enough: CONSISTENCY IS KEY!! If you let her STTN (sleep through the night), just once, she will expect it every night. I know it’s hard! But she really does not need the sleep; she is just resisting the change.. If you have an especially alert Mommy, you can stop crying for about 10 minutes, just long enough for her to go back to bed and start to fall asleep. Then cry again. It WILL eventually work. My Mommy once stayed awake for 10 hours straight, so I know she can do it.

The other night, I cried every hour. You just have to decide to stick to it and just go for it. BE CONSISTENT! I cried for any reason I could come up with:
-My sleep sack tickled my foot.
-I felt a wrinkle under the sheet.
-My mobile made a shadow on the wall.
-I burped, and it tasted like rice cereal. I hadn’t eaten rice cereal since breakfast, what’s up with that?
-The dog said “ruff”. I should know. My Mommy reminds me of this about 20 times a day. LOL.
-Once I cried just because I liked how it sounded when it echoed on the monitor in the other room. -Too hot, too cold, just right
– doesn’t matter! Keep crying!!
-I had drooled so much my sheets were damp and I didn’t like it touching me.
-I decided I was sick of all the blue in my room so I cried.

It took awhile, but it worked. She fed me at 4am. Tomorrow night, my goal is 3:30am. You need to slowly shorten the interval between feedings in order to reset your Mommies’ internal clocks.
Sometimes my Mommy will call for reinforcements by sending in Daddy. Don’t worry Daddies are not set up for not needing sleep the way Mommies are. They can only handle a few pats and shhing before they declare defeat and send in the Mommy.
Also, be wary of the sleep sheep with rain noises. I like to give Mommy false hope that listening to the rain puts me to sleep sometimes I pretend to close my eyes and be asleep and then wait until I know Mommy is settling back to sleep to spring a surprise cry attack. If she doesn’t get to me fast enough I follow up with my fake cough and gag noise that always has her running to the crib. At some point I am positive she will start to realize that she really doesn’t really need sleep.

P.S. Don’t let those rubber things fool you, no matter how long you suck on them, no milk will come out.
Trust me.”
 
Love this lol! Didn't see it in baby club so thanks for sharing x
 
And fab news stranj so glad to hear that about your results! X
 
i saw that too! its so funny and true!

conor only had 19 oz yesterday but usually has abt 24/26 oz a day....i have went back to 4 bottles of 8 oz, he doesnt finish them all but need to get him to bed for 8pm....mite have to give in and give another feed again at 6 cause he falls asleep on his last bottle and doesnt finish it!

he is doing well though and very strong...abt 9kg and standing already!!!
 
Wow trix thats great he has the strength in his legs to stand. Is he supporting his own weight? Erin can stand for a couple of seconds if I'm holding her weight but then her legs buckle.

Erin was 7.24kg or 15lb15oz on Tuesday. We took her swimming a couple of weeks ago to our local pool but it was quite cold and she wasn't very impressed. Our local special needs school has a hydrotherapy pool which 3 lunchtimes a week is open to the public for babies and toddlers, so I took her there yesterday and it was so much warmer, she loved it. But hated getting changed after and screamed the place down oops.

She had blood in her stools on two nappy changes on Tuesday so we took her to the doctor. When I called in for advice, they said she might have had lactose intolerance, but when we actually saw the doctor, as Erin was well in herself, they said they thought it was just a burst blood vessel or something and to monitor it. She's had one more nappy with blood in since then. Just keeping an eye on her for now.
 
god dreamer, that is worrying... i hope she ok and it prob is a burst vessel and nothing to worry abt, but must be scary to see.

yeah he can hold his own weight, and has done for ages, i think the bouncer helps with strength...he has rolled over a couple of times but nothing major!
 
do you have a door bouncer trix? or a jumperoo style bouncer? erin's only really starting holding her head up well in the past few weeks, so considering getting something now she can
 
he has the fisherprice frog bouncer thing and loves it..... we put him in it at abt 14 weeks as his head control has been amazing since birth.....we had to initially put a blanket in to prop him, but now he is flying in it and jumps up and down....my OH has been good though, he stands him up all the time even with his arms, you would think his arm sockets wouldnt hold but they do!!!!!he has done that from abt 10 weeks old!

we have the hip xray tomorrow for unequal creases but at the way he can stand i dont think we have anything to worry abt.

was going to get the door bouncer but the frog is enough!
 
Gosh dreamer, I hope Erin is ok. Did they say how long the blood should last if it is a blood vessel? Is she acting ok otherwise? Hope it goes away soon! We also have the fisher price froggie and giada loves it! The only problem is she gets stuck in it because her thighs are so chubby and I have a hard time getting her out. I may need to make cuts in it.

Trixie I can't believe conor is standing already!!! That is amazing! I have a feeling giada won't be able to support her weight for a while because of how heavy she is. She does lock her legs and has for a while, but I dont think she can support her weight at all..only if I am helping her. Let us know how the ultrasound goes tomorrow. I had looked at giada's creases and they look pretty symmetrical but sometimes not exact. With hip problems are the crease differences pretty noticeable, like no mistaking it? Or can they be just a tad off? It is hard to say because she is moving around so sometimes they look right on and sometimes they look a just slightly off, but again she is trying to squirm so it's so hard to tell. Let us know how it goes tomorrow, but it sounds like he is pretty strong!

So giada has started making this terrible screaming/screeching sound. I don't know why she is doing it but it is sooooo loud and ear piercing. She's not crying and at first I just thought she did it when frustrated, like she couldn't get a toy in her mouth that she wanted, but it seems she has started doing it all the time the past couple days. I am going crazy and don't want to take her out in public. I am going to ask on baby club, but have any of you experienced this?
 
Erin 'screams' stranj, but doesnt tend to when we go out. usually when lying on her playmat.Sort of an individual scream like ahhh really loud! i think its just a learning thing, they are learning to make new sounds. Erin used to 'talk' so lovely in her cute little voice, but now she's started blowing raspberries as her talking lol.

They said if it continued over 48 hours to go back in. There was no blood for 48 hours after but then 1 nappy change had a little, no more since then. She's been absolutely fine in herself. I was so hoping it wasn't lactose intolerance obviously for Erin, but also because I love dairy so much, cheese, milk, yogurts etc. Lets hope thats the end of it now

Cool on the froggy, I shall check it out. Hope everything goes ok tomorrow trix :)
 
i think if she was lactose intolerant you would have known abt it before now. i think its prob a burst vessel, they can be common, like haemorroids.

i never even noticed conors unequal creases it was my health visitor! just shows you my HV head went out the window as soon as he came home....his are noticeable....but his strength is amazing, as i say he can stand......obviously we hold him but he is defo holding his own weight! he doesnt want to sit when you hold him! i just hope he doesnt get bandi legs!!!! the ginger hair is enough!!!
 
Thanks ladies, I might give her 10pm feed at some point but tonight is her first night in her own room :( shes outgrown her carry cot and thought id see how she goes, I put her in awake and she drifted off so going well so far. Gonna miss her in my room though. It was spare of the moment so maybe the best way?

Hope everyones oh's had a good fathers day?
 
Oh gosh claire I hope it goes well! It will probably be easier for her than you lol!!

Trixie when do you get your hip results? And do you have problems gettig conor out of the froggy? Giada's thighs get stuck and I can't figure out how to get around that!

Dreamer, glad erin seems ok and hope you don't see anymore blood! And how nice that she doesn't scream when out! I wish giada didn't!!! I seriously need to buy some earplugs!

How is everyone? Things here are good. Giada slept til 8:15 today (went to bed late at 10pm) but then she was a grump all day. I noticed last time she slept in late she was the same way. Not sure if it is just coincidence. She goes through fussy phases so I am hoping today wasn't the start of a bad phase!!

Hope all is well!!
 
Morning ladies.

Well, Darcey had a really good night. Our best so far! She went to bed at 6.45 and slept till 6.30am! Im so chuffed :) Only thing is she wouldnt go back in her cot after she fed and is now sleeping in her swing. She often needs a bit more sleep after her morning feed. Any tips on getting her to go back in her cot..happily?! Oh, I also missed her 10pm feed. She stirred at that time but didnt wake so I left her..another bonus!
I put the carry cot in the cot for her to sleep in and after a few days or when the time feels right i'll take the carry cot away and leave her to sleep in the cot. She looks so tiny in it!
We bought a fantastic mobile which I think helped. It plays mozart and beethoven plus nature sounds, has a night light and the all impotant animals moving round. The remote that comes with it is a great idea so I dont have to go into her room to re-start it again if shes still awake.
It was hard for me last night, Im glad we I done it spare of the moment...I couldnt brew that way. My bedroom did feel really empty and I missed seeing her little arms and legs flying around, but still got to hear her coos and ahhs through the monitor. The time was right I think.

Stranje,Trixie I looked at the frog thing you were on about. It looks great fun, I can see why your lo's like it so much. I think we're going to buy a jumperoo type thing.

I hope everything is ok with Erin and it was a burst vessle. Ive heard its fairly common, but still a worry.

Trixie, lol. Im sure Conor wont be bandy legged, he's gorgeous with that lovely red hair :)

stranje, Darcey is really fussy when shes tired. If she doesnt nap for long enough she is a nightmare! She hasn't started the loud squealing yet but im sure its on the way! :)
 
Hi ladies,

Trixie, what is unequal creases, what does it mean? I'm guessing the creases on the leg but haven't heard of this before?

Claire, so glad Darcey slept well in her own room! I know what you mean about missing them, I'll pop into her room in the night to make sure she's ok and steal a little kiss and a smell of her head (does anyone else have this obsession heehee I love the way she smells!).

And OH had a nice first fathers day thanks Claire. Men are so different to women though, or at least he's so different to me lol. I wanted something for my first mothers day that was meaningful, that I could keep. He picked me out a locket with a diamond which was so thoughtful but when I found out the price all I could think was it's nice, but not that nice. So I told him (oops sounded so ungrateful!!!) and we picked out a chamilia bracelet and a 'mum' bead as it was reasonably priced, and I love the idea of collecting the beads and the meaning of them all. OH is quite hard to buy for, so I told him I was thinking of getting him some sort of jewellery and had saved some money and to help me pick something he wanted. He went away and came back saying he would really prefer the money to do something to the car as he spends so much time in it and loves it (wants to get some upgrades like parking sensors (!!!) or something). Each to their own!!!

Stranj RE the squealing...Erin doesn't squeal when out...YET lol. She's a few weeks behind Giada so that could still be to come! She has taken to bursting into tears if someone speaks to her when out in her buggy though. Thats embarrassing, feel so sorry for whoever it is, they always look horrified!

We went to our first of 5 baby massage sessions today. Was ok, nice bonding with Erin but not quite as good as I expected for some reason. Our 'homework' is to keep watch of our babies, and see what their cues are just before they cry...
 
The frog is a jumperoo thing, the love you zoo looks good, but OH sister have us the frog and Conor loves it! Stranje Conor does get caught in it sometimes but I just give him a good tug and wiggle and he's out!!!!
 
Dreamer creases arent a huge deal but can be a sign the hips are displaced. All creases on the back off the legs must be equal Conor has unequal ones behind his knees! 9/10 cases are grand, X-ray was done and waiting for results! But not too worried. The Hv usually checks them at 14 days 8 weeks and 16 weeks apt.
 
That's fanstastic claire that Darcey did so well in her own room!! Is it still going well? I know giada would probably do better. I think we wake her up sometimes, but I just can't move her yet. I know I'm goign to be one of those crazy parents who keeps the baby in the room forever. Oh well. Which mobile do you have? I want ot buy a new one as the one that came with our crib sheet set is terrible.

Dreamer I am obsessed with giada's smell too lol. And I can't stop kissing her head, then I see everyone else kissing her head and I get grossed out. Poor baby, she probably wishes we would just leave hr alone sometimes. How is erin? I hope her diapers have stayed blood-free!

Trixie what are bandy legs? I never heard that before! I hadn't even heard of the creases until someone mentioned it in baby club so I looked it up. The site I read said it is really the ones under the buttocks that are more reliable in showing a problem. Is that true? Hope you get your results back soon, but it sounds like everything is fine!

Giada has been sleeping 8:30 to 7 the past two nights, which is great, but she is up all evening from about 4:30pm to 8:30pm and by 6:30 she is a total grouch. If I have her take a nap then she won't go to sleep at night til 9:30. ANy suggestions? Do your LO's nap in the few hours before bed? There have been days where she has slept like 2 hours in the evening and then still gone to bed fine, but it is usually when she didn't sleep much during the day. Usually her longest nap is in the morning. What are your schedules?
 
Thanks Stranje. Darcey has continued to sleep well in her own room. I have taken away her carry cot tonight, so she is properly in her big girl bed. She went off fine, just hope she stays there!
I did find we would wake her up by talking or sometimes just the duvet making a sound when turning over because she was right beside the bed. I could hold her hand she was that close.
I still find it hard and I do often go in for a sniff and kiss ha ha ,but I think if I left it any longer I would have found it harder. She's quite a clingy baby, so doing it later would have been harder for her as well.
We bought her the fisher price rainforest mobile, I must say im impressed with it. The remote is really handy.

Giada sounds like she is sleeping really well in your room, you will only be able to do it when you're ready. On the plus side it is kind of nice having the room to ourselves again.
I have always been really lucky with Darcey, she will still go down to sleep if she's slept close to her bedtime. I try to keep her up from 5pm, but by 6pm she is so tired. Its hard to keep her awake till 7. Tonight she was in bed by 6.30.

Bandy legged, is like bow legged if you've heard of that. They kind of walk like someone who has been on a horse too long, ha ha. Does that help? x
 
Ahh thanks Trix. I'll have to have a look. Do you have a 16 week appointment in Ireland? I've found the health visitor care here a bit odd really. She came out to me at 10 days and then about 8 weeks, then told me to go to the drop in at my local surgery a couple of weeks later. So I did, but that health visitor was like why are you here...when I said my HV had told me to, she was puzzled and said no she only sees people if they have problems. But now I haven't seen anyone since then (about 10 weeks). Erin's gaining weight, and doing well so I'm not really too concerned. I guess the support would be better if I was having problems and needed it.

Thanks for asking after Erin Stranj, she's doing good, no more blood thank goodness. I also don't really like others kissing her but thankfully not too many people do! Thats fab Giada has been sleeping so well. We've managed to start getting Erin down earlier in the past few days. She has her last feed starting between 7 and 8pm, and she nurses to sleep. She's been sleeping til 7.30am. She tends to have naps around 11 and 2 when at home, they last anywhere between 5 mins and an hour. If we're out and about or at the baby groups she doesn't tend to sleep so much. Yesterday she didn't sleep all day until we were walking home, 3.30-5, I didn't think she'd go down in the evening but thankfully she did.

Theres still a few ladies we haven't heard from for a while. Lilrojo how are you getting on with having 2 little ones? And baby2310 we haven't heard from you in ages, hows Callum? LadyL how did your class reunion go? Babies777 hows your pregnancy going? I tried to look up future, but it says she hasnt posted since 24th May, I really hope everything is ok with her and her bean was a lovely sticky one. Sorry if I've forgotten anyone, it's hard to keep track on here!!!
 

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