CC and naps? so confused need help!

[mommyhav]

hi! I find that i need to start a new thread because my OH and I have decided to try CC for a few days here and if it works great, if not, we are going to try something else. I feel that my LO is a good candidate because she seems to really have me wrapped around her little finger lately......lol
as soon as she cried i would always go directly to her and she would be smiling and jumping up and down no matter what time of the day or night.
in my other post i got some suggestions, and now that this is the method that we have decided to go with right now, I was hoping for some more specific advice from those who have had success with CC.


We tried it last night and it worked out ok. she was asleep after 25 mins of variated crying...hysterics at times, murmers at times and then soft cries and asleep. we checked on her twice after 10 and then 15 mins and she was asleep the second time. I covered her with her blanket and she was out till 2. she then woke up and was sick with sniffles (teething i think) and wanted milk so i caved in and gae her milk and let her sleep with me for 4 hours. i know this was a mistake, and i plan to try to be tough tonight if she wakes up in the night.


i am so sorry this is long and thanks for reading.... here is my main concern

for naps what do you do? i got her down after she fell asleep at the breast....not what i wanted to do but she jsut plain fell asleep so i out ehr down and she was only out for 15 mins. i then had her up changed her (she had a poop) and she semed to be quite sleepy still, rubbing her eyes and her face on me and yawning, so i put her down again and we are doing CC. she is quite upset again and sitting up in bed. my OH checked on her recently and she was pretty hysterical.....how long do i bother with it for for naps? will she actually go to sleep or will i be stuck doing this for an hour to no avail? does it work the same was as it does for night or is there something else i need to do for naps? so clueless, probably because of a lack of sleep as usual lol

thanks in advance!

 

[Eve]

A friend of mine did it for naps (I don't believe in it) and it took her a week for him to go down on his own, she sat in there with him, so he didn't think she was abandoning him as your child right now should be going through seperation anxiety, which is normal and leaving them to cry alone for long periods of time isn't good, as they believe you have left them and are not returning. She sat there with him and some days she caved as she felt so bad, but it didn't take long. She started with naps (only 15-20 minutes tops) sitting in there but not picking him up, just giving him soother and keeping her hand on him. After a few weeks of going down on his own for naps she worked her way up to bedtime. Just remeber, growth spurts, seperation anxiety etc... it's best if you end up doing CC do rule out other things first Anyways, good luck and maybe your LO will do it on their own anyways lol. Kayleigh going down when I rock her, which I don't mind... and sometimes she falls asleep on her own, or nursing... just depends. Either way it doesn't bother me much right now as I'm home with her all day.

 

[mommyhav]

thanks for the reply We have tried some other things, but i think that at her age placing my hand on her etc wont work as well beacuse she is nearly walking....she wont lie down if i am in the room and will just stand up in her crib and jump up and down and cry. she used to be a grat sleeper, but i did have a crutch, i would sit in my rocking chair and BF her till she fell asleep. it worked perfect for 8 months Now, even if she falls asleep during BF and rocking, she instantly wakes up the second she touches her matress and goes into hysterics. nothing we can do will get her to sleep now, no amount of BF, rocking, routine, etc. Another thing is that i am going back to work any day now (i am a teacher on call) and i need to get her to bed earlier so that she can get up in the morning...... we havent tried too hard to change her bedtime yet cuz we want her to start actually sleeping first! lol if i knew that it would just take a few days of perserverence and she would become a better more independent sleeper, i would do it and that it what CC is supposed to do, so thats why we are trying it. i can see that she has bags under her eyes, looks exhausted and is learning a lot of new things and i jsut want her to get some sleep. she used to nap for like 2 hours afternoon and 1 hour in the morning too and now i cant get her to nap unless we are in the car or i hold her and i cant do that when i am at work.....

 

[Eve]

Oh wow... sounds like a lot to deal with right now. Maybe the CC will work for you and your LO will get better sleep. Did you look into the sleep sense thread? I have no idea on how to do it but I hear it works wonders and it's a no cry solution... maybe they would have some ideas for you too

 

[SAmummy]

We did a bit of CIO... well kind of. I didn't follow it to the book, but did what I felt was right and it has worked great for us. Jed still gets up for one feed a night, but I'm ok with it because he is genuinely hungry and I will wait a few months before trying to eliminate that feed. With naps I think they suggest if they get up before 30 min the sleep is not actually long enough to rejuvinate them. They say you should leave baby in the cot for the duration of the nap ... say 1hr. If they are still crying when nap time is over, take them out and try keep them awake untill the next nap time. I would say though if you have had to do a nappy change LO would prob be wide awake and I'm not sure they would go back to sleep so I would try keep her awake until the next nap time. Jed also used to wake really quickly after going down for a nap and I used to pat him back to sleep without picking him up. Now he naps for about and hour on average. Good Luck

 

[amandad192]

Hey. I did CIO with Liam. It started as CC but I noticed everytime I went in the room he would get very frustrated again and would cry for longer.
The first night we had about 20 minutes of crying before he went to sleep. That dropped very quickly and within a few days he was going to sleep within a few minutes.
Nap times I did the same thing. Put him down and left him to it.

We're having a few problems at the moment with him playing in his cot instead of going to sleep, so by the time he dozes off it's like he's been upstairs most the day sometimes! He can play for about 30 mins (or more) before he finally goes to sleep, even though when he's down stairshe just moans and yawns.

CC or CIO aren't easy and you really have to stick to it! Give it at least a week before you try something else.

 

[Seraphim]

I hope you get some helpful tips and everything works out.
I just wanted to add that the 9 month mark there is another regression, naps DO change, and they LOs have increase separation anxiety. BFing to sleep does stop 'working' unfortunately

 

[jaybee]

I have used a version on CIO on tobi, was trying shh/pat and CC, but found he just got worse having me in the room.
My advice is once, you have decided to do it, you have to keep it up for FIVE nights. It will break your heart, but suddenly around night 4 or 5 it will suddenly click and bubs will just go to sleep. And because she has learnt how to sleep on her own, she will much more likely to go back to sleep when she wakes in the night.

I Worked on the night sleeping and carried on with naps as I always ahd done. I have heard that day naps are very hard to sort out, but if you can get them learning to sleep at night, you can transfer that skill to naps. No with Tobi, he gets a five minute cuddle at nap time and then put into his cot awake and 'generally' he will fall asleep.

Good luck , be strong and it will be fine.

 

[mommyhav]

your LO sounds cute hehe

CC or CIO aren't easy and you really have to stick to it! Give it at least a week before you try something else.

thanks a lot! i will. last night she cried for almsot an hour and a half! tonight jsut a few mins, but she had fallen asleep in the car accidently....she was just so tired, and i transferred her and when she woke up she was upset but i went into her room and said night night its ok, go to sleep, love you etc and it only took a few mins.....tomorrow is a new day, naps are still a bit tough and my focus, but it's true, she does have a lot going on right now.

 

[mommyhav]

I hope you get some helpful tips and everything works out.
I just wanted to add that the 9 month mark there is another regression, naps DO change, and they LOs have increase separation anxiety. BFing to sleep does stop 'working' unfortunately

hahah you arent kidding about the BF.....hehehe its ok though, we are still enjoying BFing even though it was super easy back when she fell asleep at the breast hahaha

 

[mommyhav]

update:

so like i said in PP, she took 25 mins to fall asleep the first night, 90 mins the second night (awfulllll!!!!) and tonight although she fell asleep in teh car and i transferred her she did wake up and i shushed and calmed her and she went to sleep in 5 mins. tomorrow is a new day of course, and i do plan to stick it out. she slept all night last night for the first time in weeks! about 11 hours! in the morning, i was so engorged lol but i pumped to freeze some milk for daycare which i have been meaning to do which helped too! when my OH went in to get her thins morning, she was still sleeping so she got a really great sleep. i think what it really comes down to is that by the time most of us start CC or CIO type techniques, our LO's are so overtired from not sleeping previously that that is the reason they cry anyhow! they are so super tired that they jsut exhaust themselves and get over the anxiety slowly.

thanks again so much ladies! i am going to perservere! i know that i am doing the right thing because other times when she would cry and i would go to her she would feel validated and smile and jump up and down so i knew she was sort of wrapping me around her little finger. luckily daddy is a bit tougher lol, that will come in handy in a few years' time lol!!!!

 

[celine]

mommyhave i feel your pain! Ill try to be bried..my son would NOT nap anywhere but on me and he was a battle to put to bed and i didnt want to nurse him to sleep all the time so at 4/5 months we did CC for bedtime and it worked a treat after 3 days, we always went in after 4/5 mins but soon you hear if they are upset or just having a whinge.
After 6 months I decided to try it for naps and it actually worked. I would focus on just one nap a day - I told myself if he will sleep in his co for 30 mins it will be great! So small goals.
After a month of that I tried it for the 2nd nap and surprisingly that worked too
Im still bfing but we are trying to stop him bfing at night so i send oh in and its tough UNLESS gabriel is clear that he needs mummy then its usually fine This morning I was in at 6am (after a rough night ppl were going balistic with fireworks so i bf him at 1am) which i dont mind bfing but bedtime is til7:30 so when i gently put him back down and he stood up I said night night and left. there comes a point where if you know your lo is dry, fed and tired/cranky then i feel its ok to let them cry a bit.