Chinese Accupuncture

[FireBaby]

Yeah I kind of went off the herbs for a while. They seemed to be doing good things for me although I did notice my cycle was getting rather short....the reason I went off them was a friend of mine was getting really bad reactions to the herbs - she developed a cyst from taking them and as a result she investigated what they were giving her - it turns out that the diagnosis they give you based on your 'pulse' might not always be that accurate. Also the acupuncturist kept saying to me that my temperatures were up and down because I was 'emotional' - which I wasn't - but she was so insistent I started to feel that perhaps I was getting emotional and that was affected my hormones - however I started to do vaginal temps (kinda gross but so much more effective for me) and my temperatures smoothed out completely which makes me think she was completely wrong with her 'emotional' diagnosis...Anyway long story but I decided to skip the herbs for a while and go to the community acupuncture instead now and then and just regulate my cycles and help egg quality with supplements - I'm taking myo inositol, l-arginine and coq10 along with my pre-natal... and I've managed to keep my temperatures up throughout my LP....

 

[Blythe]

Yeah you have to go with your gut feeling......my acu always asked about whether my hands and feet have warmed up and i always say yes.....NEXT! He says nothing about my emotions although his English is not that great. Although his receptionist informed me that apparently stress will not help my efforts....no shit sherlock!! Im really trying to be patient and realise i might get some negative stuff happening whilst my body sorts itself out. Im hoping that it helps my eggs as im lucky that i have a regular cycle and ovulate every month around about the same time. I think for most people Chinese medicine is quite gentle and changes are gradual but i do read those stories where women have amazing (and fast) reactions to it. Thats not good about your friend getting a cyst...what an awful reaction....

 

[FireBaby]

I know that's super annoying when they tell you that stress won't help things - I have the same no shit sherlock reaction when I hear that too. I mean it sometimes seems like its a bit of a default/fallback thing they say to me when I keep coming back month after month without a BFP. Grrrrrrrr.

 

[Briss]

i am quite sure about acu cos the points my docs is needling are the ones Lewis talks about in her book but most of the herbs are different, I am just trying to trust she knows what she is doing but I guess as in any other medicine correct diagnose is the key

 

[FireBaby]

Yeah that is a great book. I actually brought it with me to an appointment one day and told the acupuncturist I wanted her to do that point that was like "calling the spirit of the unconcieved child" or something like that. She had a different pattern worked out for the needles that day but she said that combined it would have the same effect as that point in Lewis' book.

 

[Rashaa]

He suggested going off the herbs until second trimester. His wife is pregnant, and she did the same...all I am taking in a multivitamin with 5 mg folic acid. That's it.

Rashaa - did your acu suggest you go off the herbs or did you make that decision? I've been wondering when (hopefully soon) I get my BFP if I should take up herbs and what vitamins/supps to continue/discontinue....maybe I'm jumping the gun a little but I think it's good to have a plan

Sending you stickies for a H&H 9 months

 

[Briss]

blythe, how was your acu appointment yesterday?

I got lots of additional needles in my face today, at least 8 in my chin and cheeks, hopefully will help with acne although in last 2 months I had no joy. she also said that my acne is a sign of hormonal imbalance. I've heard that before from western doctors. though no one clarifies what kind of imbalance and what i need to do to correct it.

my zigonds were fine today I was even able to allow stronger electric currents through them. but on my way back I felt really strong cramps like the period ones, I am getting worried now cos am in TWW.

Also, at least 3 of the needles seem to puncture my veins/blood vessels, am bruised she said it happens nothing to worry about. I sure hope so.

I have 2 more acu and 3 more weeks of herbs, am seriously thinking whether I should continue. I really do not see that much of a change since I started.

I started reading a great book that really explains how chinese medicine works, it's not fertility specific but I finally begin to understand all this talk about Qi, Blood etc. it's called the web that has no weaver https://www.amazon.com/Web-That-Has-Weaver-Understanding/dp/0809228408

 

[Blythe]

blythe, how was your acu appointment yesterday?

I got lots of additional needles in my face today, at least 8 in my chin and cheeks, hopefully will help with acne although in last 2 months I had no joy. she also said that my acne is a sign of hormonal imbalance. I've heard that before from western doctors. though no one clarifies what kind of imbalance and what i need to do to correct it.

my zigonds were fine today I was even able to allow stronger electric currents through them. but on my way back I felt really strong cramps like the period ones, I am getting worried now cos am in TWW.

Also, at least 3 of the needles seem to puncture my veins/blood vessels, am bruised she said it happens nothing to worry about. I sure hope so.

I have 2 more acu and 3 more weeks of herbs, am seriously thinking whether I should continue. I really do not see that much of a change since I started.

I started reading a great book that really explains how chinese medicine works, it's not fertility specific but I finally begin to understand all this talk about Qi, Blood etc. it's called the web that has no weaver https://www.amazon.com/Web-That-Has-Weaver-Understanding/dp/0809228408

Hi Briss

i have just got back from my appt...i was in Birmingham this weekend so had to put it forward a day. I had lots of needles in my legs and tummy but none at all in my head...a first! im due to ovulate tomorrow or next day i think but then again i did not take my temp today or do an OPK. will BD tonight hopefullly and next couple of days...we will see

the doc gave me a quick back massage and was really rubbing the lower bit as i said ive been in quite bad pain with it....i dont mind telling you i became quite aroused...maybe its because im due to ovulate!!

I have that book and think its great...thanks for the recommendation though..... It is currently next to my bed....it has a massive section on pulses which i was trying to decipher (unsuccessfully).

Perhaps you should think about another practitioner...I do understand how you feel when you cannot seen any real changes. the acu and herbs are a big commitment and its just so so discouraging when you don't get any (noticeable) returns. I really do believe in TCM but its just getting the right practitioner i think....I'm not convinced with my one at the mo!

its good she changed what points she is using...i hope they help with your skin. I have been breaking out left right and centre and only used to get them a few days before AF due but now its throughout the month.

I too get cramping feelings around ovaries and uterus post acu and like to think its the blood rushing to the area which can only be a good thing during the 2WW (I hope!).

 

[Briss]

I love back massages and a gentle rubbing!

Just before O I can get aroused by just about anything, the other day I saw two guys kissing and got a "boner" so before O I am a very easy target. I am very pleased with how my hormones work - I am always up for it during the week leading to O, but as soon as I O, it all goes away and I have to make an effort if we want to BD.

pulses are so complex, I am still trying to understand the basics

I am thinking of changing my practitioner but this one was recommended to me by a friend, so not sure how to go about it.

My ovaries were so quiet today, I did not feel them but after acu they are back to being so sensitive almost painful. I so hope it's just the blood rushing to the area

 

[Blythe]

I love back massages and a gentle rubbing!

Just before O I can get aroused by just about anything, the other day I saw two guys kissing and got a "boner" so before O I am a very easy target. I am very pleased with how my hormones work - I am always up for it during the week leading to O, but as soon as I O, it all goes away and I have to make an effort if we want to BD.

pulses are so complex, I am still trying to understand the basics

I am thinking of changing my practitioner but this one was recommended to me by a friend, so not sure how to go about it.

My ovaries were so quiet today, I did not feel them but after acu they are back to being so sensitive almost painful. I so hope it's just the blood rushing to the area

Thats brilliant....made me laugh out loud

For ages I've had no sex drive so im thrilled i almost O during my acu session...felt like my old self again!!

You must do whatever is right for you....it difficult if you have had a personal recommendation but all you say (if pushed) is that you thought she was great but either it wasn't working for you or you have found someone closer to where you live.

 

[Briss]

I got a mild tummy pain after acu but it gets stronger by a minute, and i do not think it's my ovaries looks like my guts or liver or smth, it's more on the right side, i hope it's not appendicitis ... but i cant even touch my tummy or move without feeling some sort of discomfort and mind pain. may be I should not have gone for such a strong electric this time. I also got a bit of a temperature. not great

 

[Blythe]

Ive never had electrics on my needles.....
See how you feeling the morning..if its still hurting call your acu clinic for advice as it shouldn't cause you pain, particularly if getting worse.

My ovaries feel like they are on fire now but its not really painful.

 

[Briss]

I cant even understand what's causing all this, I wonder if it is just muscles? needles are supposed to be only muscle deep so may be electrics toned them up like after exercising or something. My Dh is so upset, he does not believe in acu and think I got desperate and entrusted my health into charlatans' hands who are going to harm. I should not have told him I went to the clinic today cos I am not even sure it's connected. maybe it's all this ginger I've been drinking burning my guts

 

[FireBaby]

Briss the cramps/pain you are getting could be implantation related....just a thought....

 

[Blythe]

Firebaby could be right....or perhaps it is a reaction to the electric stimulation. I hope you get some sleep tonight and please try not too worry. Update me in the morning.

My dh thinks I'm a fool for spending ££ on this but tuff!

 

[Briss]

Thank you ladies for your support!! I really appreciate it!

implantation is always at the back of my mind being half way through TWW but it's just a different type of pain. I can only compare it to the pain I had after my abdominal surgery a few years ago. they removed a very large tumour and for a week after I could not even walk straight, every breath was painful. I have something similar but on a lesser scale, every step resonates inside my tummy but mainly on the right side.

 

[Briss]

morning ladies,

either I am feeling better today or I am getting used to this pain but in any case I am much happier than last night. I think it was mainly stomach pain but in combination with my right ovary and low back pain, all together seemed like a lot of pain. Decided to skip vitamins and herbs today and just eat neutral stuff like porridge, in case it was caused by something I ate.

 

[Blythe]

Hi Briss

Thats good...glad you are feeling better. I think it's a good idea to leave the tablets alone today....does this mean no chocolate too?

I have to say your chart is looking particularly good....

 

[Briss]

I have to admit I had a bit of a binge this weekend, at least 5-6 cakes/pastries a day… which might be to blame for my condition. I still feel a bit shaky so not sure I want any chocolate, although I had hot chocolate on my way to work this morning,,,, oh well.

My temp is a little weird but I am happy it seems to be going up again not further down. But I am going to stop obsessing and over analysing it. it does not matter. the only thing I am going to look for is LH of over 15 days and a cycle of over 29 days, which does not happen to me so could be a good sign. I will ignore (well, try to) all other symptom, it's just heart-breaking when your symptoms look good and then you get a BFN/AF.

Is anyone going to celebrate Chinese new year? 9 Feb. is Chinese new year's eve. I think I will try to get my DH to a Chinese restaurant to celebrate the occasion. since I am now into all things Chinese. he might be annoyed but he likes Chinese food.

 

[Blythe]

I hadn't intended to do anything for chinese new years although i don't work too far away from china town so may pop over there and check out the dragons and get myself a nice massage whilst I'm there

Just given DH another l-arginine to pump him up for tonight. I was looking on ebay earlier and came across some penis enlarger tablets (as you do)...i wasn't looking for them but just seeing what crap fertility stuff is being sold. These particular ones look quite good actually and apparently provide lots of sperm and, i quote, "Erections like steel" and even suggests they can make a man "Ejaculate like a porn star" [I'm slightly aroused even typing this!] and to top it off it's an "excellent multi-vitamin"....