Chinese Accupuncture

Blythe, I only get ovarian pains during ovulation and sometimes in TWW, usually on one side but since I started acu my right ovary seems to be always in some sort of pain. I only get cramping during or just before AF like today :( btw nice temp spike

I hope so much that this will your month.....its those last few days before AF is due that i find the hardest to deal with. When do your herbs run out?
 
I go back and forth about the not enough bd, because of course my SIL got knocked up having bd once that entire month. What i really want is to get in the mid week bed i just dont' know how to motivate either one of us...

As for me right now I am feeding my dh L arginine 3 gs a day on empty stomach first thing in morning. I am taking it too on empty stomach with carb drink. I got AF a couple days ago and am waiting on records transfer from old clinic (could take 10-4 days)so my new dr can use them to try and get my Lap covered by insurance..After the transefer of records i should be able to sched the lap pretty quick the nurses said they are on it.

Mid week BDing is hard work if you are both working....too tired at night then rushing around in the morning (with not enough time for cushion under bum routine). :growlmad:for AF lets hope the arginine works its magic. The pills i have are 500mg and are huge so only manage to get DH to take 2 around ovulation time...will try to up next month and see if it helps.

Hope you get the lap sorted soon...i want one but will have to wait for referral following my appt. with FS on 6 march
 
Blythe, I cant agree more, these last few days before AF are just dreadful, I get my hopes up and down several times a day. had such terrible cramping today that I was sure AF would show up any moment now, was very upsetting cos it's still too early I am hoping for at least 25 days. am planning to go for reflexology next week to ease the pain if AF comes.

Arginine caps are huge and I give my DH around 6 (500 each). I also increase his maca intake around my O

I still have a couple of weeks of herbs
 
Blythe, I cant agree more, these last few days before AF are just dreadful, I get my hopes up and down several times a day. had such terrible cramping today that I was sure AF would show up any moment now, was very upsetting cos it's still too early I am hoping for at least 25 days. am planning to go for reflexology next week to ease the pain if AF comes.

Arginine caps are huge and I give my DH around 6 (500 each). I also increase his maca intake around my O

I still have a couple of weeks of herbs


Im not sure i could get DH to take 6 tablets on top of the others...although if i threaten IVF he may comply.

reflexology is great...ive only had it twice in my life though. I am a qualified massage therapist [although have never practiced as one] and have been seriously thinking about getting a qualification in reflexology and maybe looking at other types of massage which can help with fertility. I have one of these foot massage machines [https://www.amazon.co.uk/HoMedics-F...WDI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1359741769&sr=8-5] and i have to say i use it a couple of times a week along with a basic back massager [https://www.amazon.co.uk/HoMedics-S...rugstore&ie=UTF8&qid=1359741796&sr=1-21]....i sleep like ive been out doing hard labour all day...its great.

im going to acu on tues night then im going to leave it for a couple of weeks as I'm going to stop going when AF here...give my body a break from herbs and try to make this all a bit more affordable.

i see your temp has gone down a little today....i hope with all my heart AF stays away for you.
 
Blythe, your temp looks great! mine started to go down, I do not usually temp on weekends unless it's around O I cant be bothered to wake up early for that. but even without temp I can feel AF is gearing up, at this point I am just grateful for every day that it does not show up

I love reflexology, I wish I could make my DH learn it and then give me massages every day :) unfortunately he has feet phobia whatever it is called he cant stand a sight of bear feet :(

your foot massage machine and back massager look very tempting. are they good? certainly not expensive. how do they work?

I had no idea you were a qualified massage therapist! wow, that's great! why did you get this qualification? to practice or just for your general understanding?
 
Oh dear God, just when I thought I'm done with the dried placenta, I got another round of it :nope: Another 7 days, 2 times daily :sick:

Massage? Sounds amazing. I'm dreaming of this: https://www.amazon.ca/Osaki-OS-4000...96/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1359755116&sr=8-16
Tried one for 10 min and thought I'm in heaven :thumbup:
 
I go back and forth about the not enough bd, because of course my SIL got knocked up having bd once that entire month. What i really want is to get in the mid week bed i just dont' know how to motivate either one of us...

As for me right now I am feeding my dh L arginine 3 gs a day on empty stomach first thing in morning. I am taking it too on empty stomach with carb drink. I got AF a couple days ago and am waiting on records transfer from old clinic (could take 10-4 days)so my new dr can use them to try and get my Lap covered by insurance..After the transefer of records i should be able to sched the lap pretty quick the nurses said they are on it.

Notrusty (43 yo currently pregnant and full of great advice) drew my attention to following report...see bottom of page 27....think I'm going to knock l-arginine on head unless i see something fabulous in its favour pretty soon.

https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/...11/boomsma.pdf
 
Oh dear God, just when I thought I'm done with the dried placenta, I got another round of it :nope: Another 7 days, 2 times daily :sick:

Massage? Sounds amazing. I'm dreaming of this: https://www.amazon.ca/Osaki-OS-4000...96/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1359755116&sr=8-16
Tried one for 10 min and thought I'm in heaven :thumbup:

Oh no....squeeze your nose and think of two blue lines....it seems to have had a good effect so far. I would guzzle dried poo if it got me a BFP. Thank god its not in its undried form:winkwink:

That chair is truly the ugliest looking piece of furniture i have seen in years...but if i had the cash i would defo have one. Imagine having a lovely massage each evening when you cone in from work...heavenly! I saw one of those recently at a weekend exhibition event and i went to sit in it and he said it was £5 for 10 minutes...daylight robbery!
 
Blythe, your temp looks great! mine started to go down, I do not usually temp on weekends unless it's around O I cant be bothered to wake up early for that. but even without temp I can feel AF is gearing up, at this point I am just grateful for every day that it does not show up

I love reflexology, I wish I could make my DH learn it and then give me massages every day :) unfortunately he has feet phobia whatever it is called he cant stand a sight of bear feet :(

your foot massage machine and back massager look very tempting. are they good? certainly not expensive. how do they work?

I had no idea you were a qualified massage therapist! wow, that's great! why did you get this qualification? to practice or just for your general understanding?


A few years ago i really wanted to go back to uni and do Chinese medicine...i was sort of obsessed with the idea for a year or two but just couldn't make it work financially (should have taken the leap and I'm sure everything would have worked out). I decided to do a year long course in massage and anatomy and physiology which i could fit in around work. I loved it but would not want to practice professionally doing body massages...if i did do something along those lines if want to do something quite specialised.

I temped vaginally today for first time ever and git much higher temps...its going to throw this months chart out a bit but thats ok...

The foot massager in particular is great....there are better ones on the market but you can pick these ones up on eBay for peanuts. The little balls go around in opposite directions and really give the bottom of your feet a strong massage. You can apply more pressure and i can feel the little lumps and bumps get massaged away I feel so relaxed afterwards. Its something I've brought that has made a difference. The back one less so but its quite nice nonetheless.
 
I go back and forth about the not enough bd, because of course my SIL got knocked up having bd once that entire month. What i really want is to get in the mid week bed i just dont' know how to motivate either one of us...

As for me right now I am feeding my dh L arginine 3 gs a day on empty stomach first thing in morning. I am taking it too on empty stomach with carb drink. I got AF a couple days ago and am waiting on records transfer from old clinic (could take 10-4 days)so my new dr can use them to try and get my Lap covered by insurance..After the transefer of records i should be able to sched the lap pretty quick the nurses said they are on it.

Notrusty (43 yo currently pregnant and full of great advice) drew my attention to following report...see bottom of page 27....think I'm going to knock l-arginine on head unless i see something fabulous in its favour pretty soon.

https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/...11/boomsma.pdf

Blythe can you please re-send the link I cant open it. really want to know about arginine, I've been praying on it last few months ...
 
I've never temped vaginally but they say you get steadier temps that way.

I would be interested in doing Chinese medicine, although with my current hours it's just not possible. most of my free time goes into fertility studies...

afm, temp dropped quite low, cramps - AF is almost here likely today but I am still hoping i may hold it in until tomorrow to get a 25 day cycle. have been crying all day but that's my normal reaction to AF approaching, it does look like IVF is our only chance. but I hate the idea so much...

re foot massager, one of the reviews says that if you press on it it stops rotating. is this true? I think I would need a very strong massage to feel anything my feet are quite hard
 
I go back and forth about the not enough bd, because of course my SIL got knocked up having bd once that entire month. What i really want is to get in the mid week bed i just dont' know how to motivate either one of us...

As for me right now I am feeding my dh L arginine 3 gs a day on empty stomach first thing in morning. I am taking it too on empty stomach with carb drink. I got AF a couple days ago and am waiting on records transfer from old clinic (could take 10-4 days)so my new dr can use them to try and get my Lap covered by insurance..After the transefer of records i should be able to sched the lap pretty quick the nurses said they are on it.

Notrusty (43 yo currently pregnant and full of great advice) drew my attention to following report...see bottom of page 27....think I'm going to knock l-arginine on head unless i see something fabulous in its favour pretty soon.

https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/...11/boomsma.pdf

Blythe can you please re-send the link I cant open it. really want to know about arginine, I've been praying on it last few months ...

https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2009-0406-200411/boomsma.pdf

Hope this works but if not see the post called


Over 40 Natural BFP with DHEA CoQ10 Vitex Black Cohosh Low AMH


In over 35s

Its ok for men but this study seems to suggest not so great for women...it will make more sense if you check notrusyyet post one frm bottom
 
I've never temped vaginally but they say you get steadier temps that way.

I would be interested in doing Chinese medicine, although with my current hours it's just not possible. most of my free time goes into fertility studies...

afm, temp dropped quite low, cramps - AF is almost here likely today but I am still hoping i may hold it in until tomorrow to get a 25 day cycle. have been crying all day but that's my normal reaction to AF approaching, it does look like IVF is our only chance. but I hate the idea so much...

re foot massager, one of the reviews says that if you press on it it stops rotating. is this true? I think I would need a very strong massage to feel anything my feet are quite hard


Has she turned up yet? Im so sorry this is taking you so long to get your BFP...this is such a heartbreaking experience to go through. This can be enormously stressful and to do this month after month (with all those treatments and supps and research) takes its toll. Im sorry that you have been crying all day :hugs: get it all out and then try to focus on that next egg.

How about making an appt to discuss a natural round of IVF...i know you want to avoid a regular IVF and i don't blame you but I've read about create and it sounds like a great place.

Im using my foot massager now and with socks in I'm pressing quite hard and they don't stop...perhaps the reviewer had their socks off. I tend to put a fair bit of pressure on and get a nice strong massage.

:hugs: and I'm sorry this has been a sad day for you
 
I had a bit of brown spotting in the evening, still praying the full flow will wait past midnight so I could put tomorrow as CD 1. feeling like i am cheating but somehow having 25 rather than 24 day cycle gives me a sense of normality. DH took me to see Manet at the RAA and then we went to this japanese sweets shop nearby to try their things, really weird stuff :) I put it down as cultural experience, anyway I stopped crying and ready to face the inevitable. Bring on our Feb BFPs! After some consideration decided to go for acu tomorrow, I wonder if she still going to needle tummy points on CD1.

I think I will wait for hubby's sperm test and then depending on the outcome will make a decision of what we are doing next.

your temp looks better and better! fingers crossed :)
 
I love the RAA building...what a nice treat! i work in whitehall so sometimes go the NPG at lunch to wonder around.

Perhaps its ok to place needles in tummy at very beginning of cycle as it encourages blood to area and it will help shed lining. My acu man said he wanted to avoid extending period but I'm not going for acu when bleeding anymore.

Hope your day is ok :flower:
 
I go back and forth about the not enough bd, because of course my SIL got knocked up having bd once that entire month. What i really want is to get in the mid week bed i just dont' know how to motivate either one of us...

As for me right now I am feeding my dh L arginine 3 gs a day on empty stomach first thing in morning. I am taking it too on empty stomach with carb drink. I got AF a couple days ago and am waiting on records transfer from old clinic (could take 10-4 days)so my new dr can use them to try and get my Lap covered by insurance..After the transefer of records i should be able to sched the lap pretty quick the nurses said they are on it.

Notrusty (43 yo currently pregnant and full of great advice) drew my attention to following report...see bottom of page 27....think I'm going to knock l-arginine on head unless i see something fabulous in its favour pretty soon.

https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/...11/boomsma.pdf

Blythe can you please re-send the link I cant open it. really want to know about arginine, I've been praying on it last few months ...

https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2009-0406-200411/boomsma.pdf

Hope this works but if not see the post called


Over 40 Natural BFP with DHEA CoQ10 Vitex Black Cohosh Low AMH


In over 35s

Its ok for men but this study seems to suggest not so great for women...it will make more sense if you check notrusyyet post one frm bottom

Ps it a pdf...not sure if that is effecting ability to open
 
AF is here :(

I managed to open the pdf but could not locate the relevant bit. I did a bit a googling and apparently there was one study that showed arginine having a negative effect on female fertility. Was it this study that you were referring to? I could not get hold of the study itself yet.

Found a few new grey hairs this morning :( depressing. hubby says it's because I cry far too much but I am afraid it might be because I age prematurely, would explain high FSH though
 
AF is here :(

I managed to open the pdf but could not locate the relevant bit. I did a bit a googling and apparently there was one study that showed arginine having a negative effect on female fertility. Was it this study that you were referring to? I could not get hold of the study itself yet.

Found a few new grey hairs this morning :( depressing. hubby says it's because I cry far too much but I am afraid it might be because I age prematurely, would explain high FSH though

https://babyandbump.momtastic.com/t...-evening-primrose-oil-progesterone-cream.html

Its on last page of this thread.....notrusyyets advice sets it in context as i dont think the report mentions l-arginine specifically. Ive only read that small bit of it..

Sorry AF is here but everything crossed for a BFP in the next couple of months.
 
Blythe, thanks! I finally get it, I did not know that L-arginine is converted in the body into nitric oxide. I did take arginine in TWW last couple of cycles so may be I should stay away from it too for a while.

Canceled my acu appointment today, metropolitan line's not working and did not feel like going through a set of bus replacement services to get to Uxbridge, it's so cozy at home it's CD 1 I just want to stay in and sulk

I started getting grey hair in my early 20s but last few years it's just got out of control. I have to dye my hair more often cos after 3-4 weeks these grey hair become so visible...
 
My DH always makes fun of my tummy and I know I look slightly pregnant. I am not really fat but because I have no muscles on my tummy it just sort of sticks out...
 

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