Chinese Accupuncture

[gingmg]

Don't beat yourself up over coffee. All things in moderation...

 

[Irish_eyes]

Briss - I was never a coffee drinker but ever since I worked at a place that did filter coffee about 7 years ago I started getting a taste for it. So I would normally have a cup first thing in the morning at the weekends only because that is all my DH drinks and he hates the smell of tea so if he makes me a cup...it's coffee! So that's how I started to drink it in the mornings. Then in the last year the new girl I work with only drinks coffee and now I am finding that I could drink at last two cups a day which is not the norm for me. I am also finding it hard to quit it too.

Did you ever do Reiki?

I went to my practitioner last week and found it so much more relaxing.

 

[somedayisnow]

Irish - I'm glad reiki is working out for you. Are you still doing reflexology or was that someone else?

Briss - Personally I consider drinking less coffee - in any amount- a success. Perfection is too nerve wracking to achieve.

afm - I'm still doing acupuncture. He's trying to reduce the cyst I have on my right ovary.

 

[Briss]

Irish, I've never had Reiki. I am glad you are enjoying it though. I think it's very important.

somedayisnow, cant agree more. one cup of coffee a day is actually not easy for me cos I used to drink coffee and nothing else (well, not quite I did drink a lot of green tea as well but the point is coffee my was my main drink at any time of the day – I really do love it!) I was trying to drink coffee mindfully this weekend and with every sip concentrate on the negative, just trying to find anything negative about coffee and dwell on it for as long as I can. I really thought it was working cos by the end of the cup I was feeling very strongly about not having any more coffee ever… until the very next morning, that is when I could not think of anything else

afm, just had my acu, was very relaxing, the only point that was painful was between my thumb and my index finger, I think the needle went into a nerve or something cos it feels slightly painful even now. There were no ovary points today but two new tummy points closer to the middle (not REN points). Dr E seemed very familiar with my protocol which is very re-assuring. He said the treatment will follow the protocol so will have to be adjusted depending on how things go and the next session should be scheduled once I start stims. He was not bothered with me not getting HGH and said that only UCh is using this hormone, other clinics do not think it's useful so even through it sounds like a great thing there is currently little proof it does anything at all. I was also told not to take any DHEA and Dr E said this is purely UCH's thing, other clinics use DHEA but UCH for some reason does not think it helpful. particularly it does not work well with short protocols cos it creates a build up of progesterone at the start of the cycle which prevents proper stimulation. He also confirmed that norethisterone is effectively progesterone so he disregarded my chart saying my LP looks perfect but it's all down to norethisterone. he also agreed that my natural AF may be trying to start when it is supposed to so I may get spotting until I stop norethisterone which is what's controlling my cycle. He actually did not think I have a cycle anymore, it's like a serious of events that are going to happen now as a reaction to medication I am going to take but it's not a real cycle. He also said 450 menopur is not the highest dose he's seen, it's the highest for UCH but other clinic practice 600 apparently.

well I feel strangely re-assured and slightly more hopeful after the session.

I was a bit depressed this morning. A lady from another thread "stole" my secret dream (3 embies transferred but one split so she ended up with 4!). it's very silly of me but quite for some months now I was imagining having 3-4 babies on board, I know this is hardly possible considering I am a poor responder and won't get more than 2 to transfer anyway but somehow you know there is this idea that if you want something you should imagine it and try and make it feel real (similarly to "secret" philosophy) and I've been doing exactly that only whatever I dream about happen to other people … so yes in a way it does seem to happen in my life just not to me. clearly I am doing something wrong. I should probably stop dreaming and concentrate what's really happening (or not happening more like it) in my life…

 

[Briss]

I think I finally feel the effect of norethisterone - somehow I am so terribly angry all the time, so easy for me to almost get into a rage sort of state for no good reason. at one point I even woke up in the middle of the night cos I got really angry about something in a dream! I woke up feeling so angry I could have hit my pillow I wonder if this could be norethisterone playing up with my hormones? norethisterone is effectively progesterone so in Chinese terms more heat right? anger is empty heat so I guess getting more heat just makes me more and more angry. does that make sense?

I also got a mild itching down there - not something I usualy have, very unpleasant I really hope it's not some kind of yest infection. not sure if thhis is related to norethisterone.

 

[alison29]

It sounds like hormonal rage to me. My friend at work has angry dreams while on clomid. It would be right time of year for yeast with the heat and humidity. If you treat the down there buy a seven day they seem to work better than 1 or 3. I would also warn dh of hormonal crazies.

 

[Briss]

What do you take for yeast infection? Some kind of cream? Do I need to ask them for a test?

 

[Blythe]

isn't natural yogurt quite good for that...it would be good if you could knock it out with natural methods. Having said that are you expecting a bleed soon pre stims? hopefully that would help?

 

[Briss]

I am actually not sure its yest infection cos I have no discharge, it's very localised itching (only on left side for some reason) but getting stronger every hour am panicking a liitle cos this is the last thing I want before starting stims. I am away visiting mum until Tuesday but I will try to see a doctor tomorrow, not sure how yet but I really need to get it sorted asap cos it's noticably getting worse. now that I think of it it may have started after we BD last time (DH was lazy and did not take a shower!). I actualy had proper yeast infection after "dirty" sex a few years ago when we just started TTC so after that experience I have been quite careful making DH have showers before we BD but last time I just did not care

tomorrow is my last day on norethsiterone, cant wait tbh cos anger thing is really bad, I was shouting at my poor mum many times over today and feel very bad about it. I did tell her it was down to hormones but she was not convinced (I do have anger issues, just not this bad). I did not feel anything like that on progesterone suppositories though...

 

[Blythe]

Do you get a bleed after stopping the norethsiterone? At least you know the anger is connected to that and as a result it will pass soon enough. I am just waiting on AF so also having crazy rages. Last night i was discussing joining the gym and DH suggested getting a piece of exercise equipment and putting it in the front room. I thought it was the most stupid idea i had ever heard and so i started shouting at him! It was totally irrational and looking back on it quite comical although he looked totally scared of me!

So i am joining the gym today...something that would never have happened whilst obsessively TTC. Its all part of me trying to take some control back in my life. My new goal is to look [and feel] good naked by christmas.

 

[smurfy]

Do you get a bleed after stopping the norethsiterone? At least you know the anger is connected to that and as a result it will pass soon enough. I am just waiting on AF so also having crazy rages. Last night i was discussing joining the gym and DH suggested getting a piece of exercise equipment and putting it in the front room. I thought it was the most stupid idea i had ever heard and so i started shouting at him! It was totally irrational and looking back on it quite comical although he looked totally scared of me!

So i am joining the gym today...something that would never have happened whilst obsessively TTC. Its all part of me trying to take some control back in my life. My new goal is to look [and feel] good naked by christmas.

Very good I think it is important as you say to try and get back into normal things in life. I stopped my exercise except for walking for about 3 mths due to IVF and then recovering from OHSS. Now the last 6 weeks I have been running, swimming and cycling and I love it again, it really distresses you and you feel nice and tight afterwards. I will continue this until mid sept when I have my baseline scan, I will carry on running and cycling and give up the swimming as I don't think the recommend it.

Enjoy the gym maybe try a few classes to make it fun, so many out there now. I was also thinking I might try yoga or Pilates from when I have the baseline scan.

 

[live_in_hope]

hi ladies! :wave:
Sorry to jump in on this. I started acupuncture about a week into this cycle (its quite a long cycle) but ive had 4 sessions and ive already noticed a difference. My temps are stable, my lp is like no other (i usually have very low post ov temps, many dipping below coverline etc) but this cycle there is a clear shift and its stayed up high she has recommended me some changes to my diet which I have done, not 100% as some are quite difficult but I am making a conscious effort at every opportunity. She has also mentioned herbs but wants to wait to see if i am pregnant or not first just incase. Im 10dpo today so watch this space.

Im having it aswell as i suffer with my sacroiliac joint in my pelvis after my first pregnancy. Ive already noticed an improvement with that also

I will be checking to see more positive stories as Ive heard so many good things! Xxxxx

 

[Briss]

I cannot believe this!! This is f**** unbelievably bad luck. it's not yeast infection, it may be herpes!!! where would I get herpes?? seriously!! of all days and months and years TTC it had to be 3 days before we are due to start IVF which we've been waiting for 9 months and finally got the funding and now it's all going to be for nothing cos you cant have IVF with herpes. I am devastated but the doc who saw me said we obviously need to wait for the test results (which is going to take a week!) but she was quite sure it looked like herpes this is absolutely terrible. how could this happen to me? I am starting the treatment now just in case but the tablets are for 5 days and suppositories for 10, I am just so lost and upset, do I tell the clinic? what if they tell me they cannot treat smb who has herpes and I have to look for a different clinic now? can I still have NHS funding if I have herpes?

could I get herpes from a scan at the clinic? I am pretty sure DH does not have it, we have been TTc for years I never had anything like this.

 

[terripeachy]

Oh crap! I'm sorry to hear that Briss. A lot of people have it and it can remain dormant for years. There is tons of information on the web about it. But most people have the type where it's just a cold sore. I can't remember if that herpes 1 or herpes 2. Most likely IF your DH had a cold sore, and he performed oral on you, he could possibly transfer it. Otherwise, not sure where else it would have come from if you've never had any signs/symptoms and he hasn't. I would ask him. As far as telling the docs that you have it; that is a tricky situation. I would ask around here and see what others have done. I'm sure someone has been in your situation.

I do know that when I had my first and only cold sore (2 years ago), I asked my doctor what would happen if I had one when I was pregnant and she said that depending on how far along I was, they would induce me so the baby wouldn't get it. I thought that was pretty scary. Thankfully I haven't had another. My mother passed away and I guess if I I had it, it was dormant, and the stress of the situation caused an outbreak. I hope you don't have it though. Talk to DH and see what he knows.

 

[Briss]

I do have cold cores (on my mouth) from time to time but do not think I had it recently. without going into detail I do not like oral sex on me so DH never does it so that scenario is unlikely (although bit of kissing is possible, cant really remember if any of that was happaning recently). My mind is racing with various scenarios but I really cant think of anything. I am sure DH never cheated on me (I know many women are clueless about their husbands' exploits but my Dh has fobias and it would be very hard for him to get physically close to anyone, as far as he is concerned people are speading germs )

been reading on the internet and apparently you can still have IVF with herpes but not in active form, it has to be treated first. also looks like almost 30% pregnant women have it. it wont be passed to a baby only during delivery if you have an outbreak. the scaries scenario is if you get it for the first time during pregnancy, particularly last couple of months.

basically from my reading to get it it has to be skin to skin contact with infected area. ??? my private area was not touching any skin but my DH's for many years now. as you say, maybe it was dormant? it's pretty painful now so I'd definately notice if this happened before. maybe that time long ago it was not yeast infecton but herpes? it looked different and there was discharge, hard to say.

 

[terripeachy]

Yeah, it is tough to say until you get the results back from the lab. Hopefully it's just some kind of irritation, maybe from the applicator on your noresthrinone (sp?) or something else. I'll hope that it's something else, and goes away soon. Will you be able to finish your treatment before IVF? That might be your savings grace, and glad you found out this week instead of further along into the process.

I'll be stalking to find out what it is.

 

[Briss]

terripeachy, you were spot on actually, I just spoke to DH and he said he actually had cold cores recently!! and he did kiss me down there I recall now though it was such a brief thing, evidently that was enough. what a fool!!!! it did not occure to him that cold core is actual herpes that can be passed on. he feels terrible. but what about me? I get it for life now! it's really shocking cos I never blow him when I have cold cores, he probably thought that was just an excuse I made up when I could not be bothered so angry but I guess the mistery is solved I just have to deal with this mess. the timing is bad but not disastrous if all goes well it should be treated by the time I get to EC/ET so it should be OK. this is based on my reading I have not spoken to the clinic yet so they may have a different view

still, I went through my wild youth with not a single STD and be getting something like this at this time of my life and from my own husband is just stupid ...

 

[terripeachy]

Oh no! I wouldn't wish that on anyone! When I had my cold sore, I wouldn't even kiss my now husband...we were just dating then, and I was too afraid of passing it to him. This is after I thought that he might have given it to me in the first place, but he said he never had it. I think I must have picked it up somewhere, and then when dealing with my mom, it just made it flare up. I am so sorry you have to deal with this, but yes, it's not disastrous and hopefully you can get everything cleared up before egg retrieval. I also think there are meds to prevent it from happening again, but that might be something that you have to take forever, which is not cool. And I hate to say this too, but your husband should feel bad. We are too old got be getting herpes for the first time! Hopefully when you hear back from the lab the doc tells you it's something else. fxfxfx

 

[somedayisnow]

Oh Briss, I'm so sorry. You don't deserve or need this aggravation right now. I get cold sores too, have since I was 12 or 13 years old, so I'm always afraid of them transferring to my genitals. Hopefully, this won't set back your IVF cycle. I don't even know your husband and he's probably a lovely person but I could just kick him in the shins for you.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - when can you expect results back? I so hope this does not delay your cycle as i know how upsetting these setbacks can be. I have everything crossed that it all can proceed as you expected it too.

Terripeachy - i saw on another thread that you had tested and i just wanted to say how sorry i was to see that. You seem like such a lovely lady and always so encouraging to others. Will you be having a blood test? - if so, i hope that it shows a different result for you. IVF is such a big thing to go through and its just a lottery IMO.

Smurfy - not long now for you until baseline scan.....do you know the meds you will be taking? are you DRing first? Yoga sounds like a good idea...anything that helps ground you and keep those crazy IVF thoughts in check.... I did an aerobics class yesterday for the first time in about 5 years and it was an absolute killer but i did it and i felt genuinely good!