Chinese Accupuncture

[Nikki1979]

Thanks for all the responses.

I have my next appointment on Friday - AF is due on Thursday so I think I will give the pills a miss this week and just ask her next week.

Jazz - the brand I am taking is called black pearl. She told me to take 15 pills 2 times a day. There are 200 pills in the box which should last me roughly one week. I have started keeping myself warm and wearing socks and booties in the hse. I wish I had listened to my moms advice when she told me to keep my feet warm all the time.

Vonn - I got my antibodies checked in June and it came back negative. My last test results were as follows:
TSH - 0.83
Free T3 3.7 (Lab reference range 3.1 - 6.0)
Free T4 22.9 (Lab reference 11.0 - 21.0)

My FT4 is over the limit and my FT3 is still at the lower end of normal. I asked my endo about it and she said you want your FT4 to be higher as that's what the baby uses and she said that most people have low FT3s. Didn't make sense to me but just went along with it.

I have an appointment with a fertility specialist on November 20th - lets see how it goes. If all fails, I will start my IVF journey in Feb next year.
We have 2 days off as its Melbourne Cup day. Will try and catch up on each of your individual journeys when I have time.

 

[Nikki1979]

Vonn - I agree ttc is so frustrating. Ideally we shouldn't know the amount of stuff we do about ttc, that's what doctors are for when but when are faced with infertility, we have no choice but do our own research.

Remember my mom telling me not to have sex before getting married as you will get pregnant. Well mom, I wish it was as simple as that!!

 

[nobump]

How long can the tea last in the fridge? I got a batch of herbs I boiled up on Monday think the solution would last the week. Was back at acu yesterday. But had been bleeding heavy so he had made another batch of herbs for me.... he said to use thesr from now.

As I am paying 35 a time for herbs I was annoyed. ... back next Saturday but figure I will still have some tea left from first batch... will it still be ok to drink?

Acu session was good but herbs are a pain. ...

Sorry to post and run will comment more tomorrow x

 

[Blythe]

No Bump - these guys say around a week in the fridge

https://www.bodymindspirit.ws/chinese-herb-explanation/

Briss - I totally understand your desire to have your own child using your eggs and your DH's sperm. It is surely the most natural thing in the world to want that. I'm sick of hearing women being urged to use DE....i posted somewhere when i had the failed fertilisation and the ex-fertility doc answered and said to go ahead with IVF again but only with DE...to do otherwise would be a waste. They did not use those words but that was the gist. I thought no.....i don't want to do this with someone else's eggs.

Listen to your own body and what you believe in and bollocks to everything else. You are not old, sod those bloody stats, your eggs are fine and you just need the right support during a treatment for it to work and get the right sperm to where they need to be. I still pray that you can do this without treatment and your much deserved miracle happens. In the meantime, you need to feel positive about the clinic you are going to use......it is a simple yes or no. If no, explore other options......

your baby is coming

 

[Briss]

Nikki, your thyroid results look fine to me.

nobump, are you taking raw herbs? I recall Dr Zhai's recommendation was that I cook them daily but she provided a separate pack for cooking each day, it was quite time consuming cos I was boiling them first and then sort of steaming in the oven for an hour and made just enough for two cups: morning and evening.

Blythe, thanks! you always understand me. I know why clinics are so insisting on DE and am immune to that (I am usually able to ignore it) but was very surprised to hear this from fellow TTCers. Having thought about it I think that women who moved on to DE may not be sure themselves and maybe wanted some reassurance that this was the right move and that's why they were trying to convince me while in fact they were trying to convince themselves… it hurt anyway. At least at reprofit they do not really try to push DE at you. I finally got a response and very pleased that the doc understood what was my issue with cetrotide not working, she said we should try natural first time (only trigger is used) and as a next step she actually suggested long protocol which works better to ensure maturation process is uncompromised by early ovulation. as far as I know there is no cetrotide on long protocol so who knows it may work. but I still want to try a few natural cycles before going back to stims.

re diet, I was doing so well and then something just clicked yesterday and I could not stop myself, consumed something like 1,700 calories which is what I am suppose to eat in 2 days. not surprisingly was very disappointed at weighing in this morning. I was very close to losing my IVF weight but it's been pushed back by quite a bit by my yesterday's overeating. am back at it today. weekends are just too hard for me

I ventured into that shop in Queensway yesterday and got some sauerkraut! It turned out to be German and was quite sour. I definitely tried it before but it was probably either Russian or Polish and it was much sweeter. so I added some sugar! the disappointing bit is that I did not stop there, I also bought lots of chocolates and poppy seed pastry (which is what drew me into that shop in the first place)… and various kefir type of drinks which are healthy but too many calories.

 

[Briss]

here is an interesting article on how to deal with hunger while dieting - https://www.naturalnews.com/003550_appetite_control_food_cravings.html I still think that tiny pieces of chocolate and herbal teas throughout the day work much better for me than anything else. but I really like to try the number 3 - instant banana pudding, although soy milk is a lot of calories in my books, also not sure guar gum powder and xanthan gum powder are at all healthy choices. I've never heard of stevia powder as the sweetener, apparently the brown one is all natural. need to do more research to understand if this can affect fertility in any way.

 

[alison29]

I love stevia and thought it great then read some opposing articles. Let us know what you find briss. Regular sugar makes me crash and I like sweet I thought stevia was the answer I use it a lot.

 

[Briss]

alison, looks like white stevia is definitely a no but brown may be, will report later.

 

[Briss]

re stevia, basically the story is that in Paraguay and Brazil, women used the Stevia as oral contraceptive, drinking daily syrup from the leaves. There have been lots of research and one confirmed this but was later discredited as they used too higher doses for it to be conclusive. At the moment it looks like the general conclusion is that the contraceptive effects are of remote possibility, possibly only with extremely high concentrations, much beyond of the maximum necessities for daily use. I also read a few comments from women who due to health reasons had to only rely on stevia for years and yet got pregnant (one even with triplets!). having said that, we are already in the category of those who find it difficult to get pregnant so I'd use it carefully. but to be honest, i think white sugar is far more damaging to fertility. I may get some of the brown variety and mix it up with my fruit sugar. I only use it for coffee on weekends anyway.

 

[kits]

Hi ladies,

I was reading the papers at the pub when I came across this article on the daily mail. I found it so hopeful that it made me teary eyed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...hinese-herb-mother-s-4-year-battle-babay.html

Lots of love & hugs

 

[Briss]

thanks! interesting article, though not sure I can hear any more about wheatgrass shots or maca powder... none of it works. and I do not want to add up how much I spent on IVF, Chinese medicine, vits etc in the last 4 years. it will make me sad particularly cos who knows how much more to come that woman was lucky to get pregnant on her 3rd IVF, I got intra-abdominal bleeding on my third

 

[kits]

I know Briss, and I'm sorry if it had a negative impact. I just get excited when I hear about TTC struggles with success in the end. Wish you didn't have to go through so much pain.

I'll always have so much hope for you all.


Wishing you the very best.

 

[Briss]

kits, thanks! I used get a lot of inspiration out of these success stories but this has long gone probably because I've tried all that and none of it worked for me. It does not mean it wont work for others, I hope it will. in fact I recently come across a lady who had several failed IVFs but in the end got pregnant naturally after a few months on TCM with Dr Zhai! I've obviously been treated by Dr Zhai and did not notice any changes but clearly others get lucky.

The sad thing is I remember distinctly that one of the first posts I read on B&B years ago was from a desperate woman who listed all the things she'd tried over the years and how none of it worked. I remember feeling so positive about my chances and thinking that there is so much I could try and do and surely something will work but here I am, I have probably tried everything from her list already

btw, my weight is still there, I was doing so well at the beginning but then I just found it hard to stick to my calorie limit so it all went back but I have a feeling that my dieting is affecting my progesterone levels because my temp has been super low for TWW last few days and today I started feeling pre AF cramps which I do not usually get until my later in TWW. Although I do hate the way I look after that last IVF, I think I need to stop because I am just torturing myself for nothing. I either need to be really serious about losing weight and doing it fast so being very strict about it and probably go down to 700 calories a day for at least a month, or give up and just eat properly. I am doing about 900-1000 a day and it's just not doing anything for me

 

[nobump]

Briss you are making feel guilty, I need to loose some weight, but find it harder in the winter due to the cold and dark nights, make you want to stay home and comfort eat.

I am doing raw herbs, the acu guy gives me enough for a week in a big bag, I boil these twice, first with 6pts, second with 3pts, and store the cooled tea in the fridge and then micro before use. I have noticed a change in the taste with the new batch of herbs, not sure if has helped or not, but had been bleeding through super tampons in 3 hours on Friday/Saturday and under 2 hours on Sunday, but things have calmed down now, but that could be as I am now CD6, hoping to stop before the weekend... going to phone for blood results tomorrow, but think I should maybe go in and speak to a doctor, still feel as if I have no energy, not sure if iron tablets I have been prescribed are doing any good.

I don't think I will be eating much today though feeling bloated, think I over did the red wine and bread at the weekend... was at a 40th, had a good time, once the pain killers kicked in and I started drinking wine! On the back of a week of hubbies 50th celebrations, I think I will be going back on the Wagon, have wedding reception in a couple of weeks but think I will be sensible there...

Blythe, ankle weights sound like a good idea, sadly I think they may end up in the pile of things I don't use... have you tied Maka Root, I think I have some in a cupboard, think I might make some soup and sneak some in, it is supposed to be good for both male and females, trying to get hubby to do anything is impossible!

Wish everyone else well.

 

[gingmg]

Hi ladies- this may just be another fad diet- but it might be worth looking up. My mom just lost a bunch of weight on ' the fast metabolism diet'. She was thin to begin with, so I'm surprised she was able to loose as much as she did. Its a 28 day eating plan, and its actually a lot of food that you eat. Supposedly its the combination of certain foods together that jump start your metabolism. You have to eat every 3 hours and the book outlines your diet for the 28 days. The problem is that it can be expensive to follow because a lot of it comes from natural food stores. Its a preservative free plan, no alcohol, and no dairy. My sister in law is loosely following it and still loosing weight. I was thinking of looking into it at some point when its safe for me to start loosing weight. I don't know much about it, other than my mom just lost a bunch of weight on it and it seemed like she was always eating- it was all super healthy food though. Supposedly after the 28 days your metabolism is faster and you can go back to your normal eating- obviously within moderation.

Anyway, sending my love and best wishes to everyone here.

 

[gingmg]

The author of the book is haylie pomroy.

 

[alison29]

dairy has a lot of calories i am sure cutting that down helps immensley

 

[alison29]

Thanks kits! I love stories like this and having you ladies check in on us every once in a while. Makes me want to try wheatgrass for the energy if nothing else .

 

[kits]

I do check up regularly on what's going on in here, just don't like to comment as I don't want to rub anyone's nose in.

Always praying for you ladies.

 

[Briss]

F*****!!!! Got the results from sex clinic and its herpes type 2 you can only get it from sex so its not what we thought. Waiting for a doc now and grilling my brains, I fear I got it from that same f***ing moron who got me pregnant 14 years ago apparently you can have it for years before you get symptoms. Just read it online but will ask the doc. I am so distressed at the moment. How can one unfortunate shorterm fling screw your life like that?? Not a month goes by that I do not curse that damn guy for what I had to go through, of cause I also blame myself for being so naive and trusting him.