Chinese Accupuncture

[terripeachy]

Oh no, Briss!
That is terrible news, BUT, there are medicines to keep the flare-ups to a minimum, so it's not the end of the world, really. Just a crazy inconvenience. Are you still itching now, or it's all gone for now. So sorry to hear this update. I was hoping it was just an infection of some sort that would permanently go away.

 

[gingmg]

Oh no Briss, sorry to read this. Terri is right, there are meds you can take to prevent flare-ups. I hope this flare up passes quickly!

 

[Briss]

Thank you ladies! Still waiting to be seen, its taking ages. Diet is ruined, I need a cake! The second episode was actually quick, the tiny sore disappeared in a few days. If I did not get it from dh then I must have passed it to him?? Oh dear me, this is just terrible. Although I know he tested negative and I am quite sure he did not cheat. It must be me then?? But virus laying dormant for 14 years, is that even possible? I'm so confused.

 

[Briss]

finally talked to a doc but she did not seem excited at all, they treat herpes as something so trivial. to me this is like a life changing event, I am so upset but she was like it's nothing, you live with cold sore on your lips so why is this a big deal? and maybe she is right and it's not a big deal at all. anyway, DH could not have tested for herpes apparently cos you need to have an actual sore and he did not have those. this is free clinic so they do not test blood for antibodies cos apparently most of the UK population will test positive for either type 1 or 2 or both. she said I could have type 2 on my lips as well so could have passed it down there (for some reason I thought you get type 1 on your lips and type two down there but apparently it's all mixed up) or it could have easily stay dormant for many years. It just seemed so unfair to get it 14 years ago and only now see the sores after being in faithful relationship for so long. she was not surprised and said she came across women who have not had sex in 10 years and suddenly got sores down there, apparently from sex they had ages ago so I guess that's even worse. she warned me not to google this stuff (a bit too late I read quite a lot in 3 hours while I was waiting) apparently it's very misunderstood and there is a lot of wrong information out there. I am feeling a little more positive after talking to her but I still want DH to do the blood test to see what type he has and if he does not have type 2 we really need to be careful about BD cos I do not want to pass it on to him. my baby will be fine (you see how I phrased it? like it's a sure thing, words are so powerful you say it and then it happens) but when i get pregnant I would need to let midwife know cos there are precautions they need to take in the last few months before the delivery.

 

[gingmg]

Glad you got some answers. I hope this is your first and last flare up. Yes, your baby will be fine, they will make sure of it!

 

[nobump]

Oh Briss sounds like you have had a rotten day! Makes you wonder how it can lay dormant for so long. But it is good that you know now so that you can deal with it during your pregnancy.

I phone the doctors today to get my blood results, admin person said my FSH was normal, but made an appointment to see doctor next week. Not sure what next move will be, not sure if they are more tests, or next move is to go for a private consult. Will chat things through with DH.

 

[Hope3]

Briss don't stress, it only makes things worse. Being run down or emotionally stressed can trigger an out break.

Take Lysine and try not to get caught up in the whys & wherefores of how you got it. I've been with DH 4 years & he hasn't caught it.

I was told whether you treat the sores or not they'll go in a week.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - i am glad you felt better having spoken to the nurse. it is incredible that it has stayed dormant for all these years - but certainly very good you are able to treat it now rather than having to deal with when pregnant.

I have found a sugar alternative that tastes like brown sugar and i am very very happy. it is:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiana-Crys...&sr=8-3&keywords=tiana+sugar+free+alternative

they sell it in H&B.

I have been listening to circle and bloom [C&B] podcasts [they are free] - a series she did called 'how einstein would get pregnant' - some are quite good and really its all about the mind body connection. My mind/thoughts had become so gloomy around TTC and my efforts in recent weeks have been geared towards getting fit and feeding myself with healthy foods and making permanent changes [hence being quite excited about above sugar discovery!]. I was quite tempted by the natural cycle C&B recordings but the woman voice slightly grates on me. could we make our eggs better quality by just thinking about it...willing them to be better! willing the sperm to go where its meant to go etc etc

There are other things out there so i will do some more digging. i will start with some healing meditations and see how that goes.

I am coming to the end of this cycle and have familiar pre-AF signs. its so upsetting to do double dose clomid so potentially having 3 eggs floating around and still nothing.

 

[Blythe]

gingmg - i just wanted to say hi and i am thinking of you during this exciting and very special time - i see you are 5 days away from your due date.

 

[Briss]

gingmg, I had no idea you were this close to the end of your pregnancy. how time flies! I hope everything goes well with the delivery and you will meet your beautiful baby soon

re herpes, there are meds that can prevent flare-ups but apparently they only prescribe them in severe cases and mine is considered to be mild because there is every reason to hope that it's all fine now.

Hope, you are right about the stress provoking herpes outbreaks that's why I am so surprised I got it just now. I mean If I really got it 14 years ago, there were plenty of opportunities for it to show up before like about 5-7 years ago I was working sometimes for 48 hours straight with no sleep on a regular basis or 3-4 years ago when my father was in hospital for about 9 months I was in agony crying and praying in our office toilet every day for many months and was totally destroyed when he passed away – clearly immune system was down. I got chicken pox around that time but no herpes. why did it show up now when I am virtually stress free. I mean of course I am sad about TTC but compared to my regular breakdowns in the first 3 years of TTC I am holding on fine. Really not sure what provoked it.

I think you are right, even if you do nothing it goes away on its own. I read somewhere that the best thing you can do is forget about it completely, somehow it reduces the changes of it flaring-up again. Body-mind connection clearly. I am so pleased to hear that you did not pass it to your DH. I am hoping it's the same for us. Just to be on the safe side I asked for gonorrhea test, I am not sure but if I got herpes from that moron I wonder what else I got. I tested negative for the scary ones many time over in the last 14 years but could not recall ever testing for gonorrhea. I have to say I lost a bit of confidence with this diagnosis

nobump, really good news that FSH was normal, hopefully they can recommend a new avenue for you to explore on the treatment front like a different protocol or something else. it's been two cycles since my last IVF so I am ready to start over. We are going with natural IVF next cycle. I am supposed to do a scan in London on CD9-10 (most likely 9 cos 10 might be too late as I usually O on cd 11) and then they will tell me when to take the trigger (I already got the prescription for pregnil but not sure yet where in London I can buy it with a foreign prescription but we will figure it out). If all goes well DH and I will fly to Brno a day before EC and Dh will stay for 2 days and I will stay hopefully until the transfer.

Blythe, I am sorry you are in that part of the cycle again, these last few days before AF are just the worst. I really hope you are wrong about this cycle (implantation can easily start after 10 DPO) but I know too well the symptoms that eat up your hope.

I was actually going to listen to circle and bloom podcasts but then completely forgot about them. Good idea. My mind is all over the place recently.

I am very disappointed with myself for not being able to sustain my diet. I was doing well for about 6 days but then my motivation weakened and I gave in to cravings. Disappointing! obviously whatever I lost is back on. But now I am going to focus on my egg. I think my body starts working on the follicles from the second half of TWW the cycle before so avocadoes and proteins here I come. No more dieting, now it's all about egg quality. I am definitely buying that coconut sugar thing you recommended! sugars are really bad for eggs so I am cutting all refined stuff down practically to zero.

 

[Hope3]

Biology can be a real b**** sometimes.

 

[nobump]

Good luck for your new cycle Briss.

Blythe, sorry you think AF is on her way.

Gingmg, hope all goes well with your delivery!

AFM I had a chat with hubby this morning, think we will go for a private consult in the new year, want to take a break over XMAS and New Year. Just to see if there is any hope... if we do another cycle it will be in March, we have a weeks holiday in Feb, so want to get away to the sun, feel like we have not had a break this year with doing 2 cycles... have acu tomorrow, but really getting tired of taking the herbs, think I will stop not sure if they have done me any good.

 

[Vonn]

Briss--so sorry to hear about the diagnosis! Hopefully it won't be as much of a setback as you'd first thought. So glad to hear things a moving forward for the next cycle and that you are going with natural IVF. Having confidence in the plan will make a huge difference, I believe.

Blythe--thanks for all the cool & helpful links you post! I had never heard of circle & bloom, going to have to check out those podcasts. Sorry if AF gets you this month, but you are being so good to your body, I just have to believe it will repay you with a BFP someday soon.

All the way back to Nikki's post with test results--I personally think the Free T3 number is really important. And I don't think its okay for it to be on the lower end of the range. I don't believe I will have full symptom relief until my T3 is in the upper 3/4 of the normal range. But that's me. Do you have continuing symptoms? What med are you on?

 

[Vonn]

AFM--started a new herbal tincture thru my acu doc. It's by a company called Conceiveable. My acu place is doing a trial of it that I am a part of. There's an app that goes with it that helps you track your fertility rating. They have you report on a whole bunch of things about your menses, bbt, food intake, exercise, sleep, gastro, etc. Seems pretty cool.

Per the Making Babies book, I had a test for antinuclear antibodies (sometimes called FANA). Came back positive (low positive I believe). Not unusual for ppl with autoimmune disorders to have positive results. I don't know of any autoimmune diseases that I have. It'd make sense for me to have Hashimotos (thyroid), but antibody tests have come back neg on that so far (not 100% reliable though, so who knows). Anyway--has anyone else tested for that????

Also, heavy metal test results came back high for Mercury and lead so I have to detox for a few months & stop TTC. Grrrrr. I think everything is just not working well, liver included apparently. So toxics have built up.

I go to dr on Tuesday, so hopefully more answers on all the above!

 

[BBbliss]

Briss, I'm sorry about your herpes diagnosis. I just wanted to ad a couple of things I know from experience. I've had it for 20 years! Got it from the father of my kids, he knew he had an out brake when he gave it to me, he was young and selfish of course, at the time I thought we'd be together forever so I didn't make a big deal of it but here I am 20 years later... It's been 15 years since that relationship ended and I never gave it to a partner, ever. Mine are very much just like yours, everything you described and its true once you have a break out it lasts from 7 to 10 days. Even if you think your husband has it you can't have sex if you think you have a blister, what happens is you can re-infect each other. You'll always have a blister on the same spot, but you can spread it to a different area and have a new break out spot. Once you become familiar with the symptoms you'll know even before you have one and that's the trick in avoiding an out break. You can get a prescription for Acyclovir 400/800 mg and take it twice a day at the first sign there's one coming. Usually a feel a pinch or tingle at the exact stop, and sometimes you can feel a small bump under the skin, if you take the pills soon enough you can avoid it breaking thru the skin and it goes away, but if the skin brakes then you have to just let it run its course. You can get acyclovir in a cream form and put it on it also and you may be able to cut it down to five days

L-lysine and vit C can keep you from having then flair up too. You never know, maybe you won't have another for a long time but stress and hormones do affect them.

Good luck and I hope you can get that prescription. I can't leave without it

 

[Briss]

Vonn, I am so surprised your test came back as high in mercury. Do you eat a lot of fish? I know cod liver oil supps were blamed for being high in mercury at one point but I think these days supps must be pretty clean. Where would you get mercury or leads?? Very sorry to hear that but makes me wonder if we all have higher level of one thing or another. Environment in modern cities is just not great.

I'm doing a lot of visualising, imagining my baby in our flat, trying to see it very clearly and in detail things like where would he\she sleep etc. I don't know if its helping anything but they do say a baby needs to be able to fit into your life or smth of that sort you are basically trying to create a space for a baby in your life.

 

[Briss]

BBbliss, thank you! So very helpful! I asked for acyclovir but the doc would not give me a prescription. So annoying! She said they only give it in extreme cases. But I think I can get it on line. Would need to check.

BTW, congratulations on being pupo. I was pupo only once but I loved it! I keep my fingers crossed for your little ones. So hoping they are getting comfortable in there

 

[BBbliss]

I know I just LOVE being PUPO

Don't listen to them LOL, get it on line! You need to always have it! I know that in Brazil and Mexico they just sell it to you without a prescription I'm sure it will be easy to get it on line. Good luck

 

[Blythe]

i had the most infuriating conversation earlier this week with a work colleague who is TTC her second and have just repeated it with DH.

she is currently on 3rd cycle and she generally appears to fall quite quickly but she said she would try till spring next year and then fit coil....she said something along lines of "i couldn't do what you have done. i couldnt go on with no end date.....'.

good luck with that!!!

YES thats right i thought to myself 4 years ago i will give it 4 heart fucking breaking years, and during that time i will look to disengage from all of my friends, interests and enjoyment of sex!!!!

fuck im angry...

i am also not pregnant and my period is due in 2/3 days so that could explain the explosive anger

i have made an appt for reflexology later today and depending on how it goes i may rebook and have a session every couple of weeks.

Vonn - im going to look for that herbal tincture you have...

i have never heard of people doing tests for heavy metals - whats your detox plan?

 

[Briss]

Blythe, I am so sorry you are feeling so down. Its impossible to talk about ttc to anyone who has not been at it for years, they seem to say outrages things without even realising it. Its hopeless.

Reflexology sounds good though! Treat yourself to something nice and relaxing. You so deserve it.

It annoys me so much that good people do not get what they deserve...