Chinese Accupuncture

[Briss]

Alison, how are you feeling? great news there are no blocked tubes or endo.

Vix, my acu doc did not always take my pulse or look at my tongue sometimes she just went straight to acu

Blythe I am very happy to see your chart, I am so used to stalking it

Had such a busy day today so much stress, still tonnes of work to do, previously I would stay until early hours of the morning working, not any more… I need to recover myself These last few days before AF are so torturous – it's one minute of hope, followed by a minute of despair, and it's like that all day

 

[Blythe]

Those last few days are indeed horrid. Your chart looks nice though.....

It's funny I'm not temping and I still stare at my chart for what seems like hours!!! Might do a bit of temping on sat and mon onwards to check for ovulation. Did a bit of ff chart stalking earlier and saw some pregnancy charts where the temp dipped below cover line a few times during 2ww....not sure why but it gave me some comfort. I like seeing bfps with odd looking charts....

Don't stay too late....cor I hope your firm pays for cabs home when you stay late.

 

[vix1972]

Thanks for your replies.

Mmm perhaps she just looked at my complexion and eyes to see how i am. I am post O think about 4 or 5 days now.

I would love some va va voom hee hee!!

I will admit the acupuncture is working wonders. I have had 2 AFs and have not had a hot flush since January! I have also cut back on my supplements and only take prenatal vits and coq10 now.

I will wait and see if my body is performing miracles in about a week from now i think

 

[Briss]

My firm pays for dinner and cabs home when I stay late but it's just not enough for having your life basically stolen from you. I am particularly concerned about the stress. My acu doc kept repeating that I am very stressed and I do feel stressed most of the time when I am at work, so I am trying at least to leave early and delegate work to juniors even if that means that the quality of work will suffer, not my priority anymore

 

[shiseru]

Briss, your chart is looking good! My TCM commented i have a little kidney deficiency when she took my pulse so she said take it easy (of course it is easier said than done!) but the yoga really is doing wonder for me. I am looking for the next session tomorrow!

I realised you ovulate quite early in your cycle too. I used to be CD14-17, recent cycles had me ovulated on CD10-12. The TCM said not ideal because the follcies may be empty if ovulate early otherwise it is immature and cannot implant to result a pregnancy, so I dunno how true though I do hear people O as early as CD10 and getting pregnant with no problems.

Blythe, are you now post O? How are you feeling, any symptoms?

I had a pregnancy chart I just knew i was pregnant because I had a flu, and on 12DPO there was no spotting (i used to spot 1-2 days before af and my LP is only 12 days), my temp was up to 36.8 so that prompted me to take a HPT.

Vix, acu definitely helps by regulating your body’s system and aids in blood flow to the reproductive organs and stabilizes hormone levels. This in turn will increase ovarian function in women as well as sperm production in men.

 

[Briss]

Shiseru, Lewis says in her book that O from CD11 to CD17 is fine, it might be a problem if you O before CD10 so I am hoping we are still in the game

My temp dropped this morning but my sex drive is up… I wonder does it mean my progesterone levels are droping and oestrogen is taking over? I am only CD22, I have at least another 2-3 day before the hormonal change

 

[Blythe]

Hi not sure if i have done this attachment properly or not so shout if you cannot see it.

I have just returned from 2nd hand shop with a book i purchased on acupuncture. Its a 1970s colour atlas of acupunture and has actual pictures of naked people [before waxing became popular may i add!] receiving treatments.

It states on the front..."atlas for all.....student, practitioner and public to read, learn and start your own acupuncture clinic". That aside there are some useful bits in here and a little section on 'sub-fertility' for those who have been trying for 2+ yrs. There does not seem to be much on diagnosing individuals but rather the emphasis seems to be on points needled for specific ailments. So really, it is flawed in that respect but the points shown in the attached do seem to be those that we have all had needled at some point.

I had my HSG earlier today and it bloody hurt. I looked up at the screen and my bits don't look like they do in the books....my uterus is flopped over to one side and the tubes seem to go all over the shop....still he said they appear to be clear so that is good news.....

 

[Blythe]

Briss, your chart is looking good! My TCM commented i have a little kidney deficiency when she took my pulse so she said take it easy (of course it is easier said than done!) but the yoga really is doing wonder for me. I am looking for the next session tomorrow!

I realised you ovulate quite early in your cycle too. I used to be CD14-17, recent cycles had me ovulated on CD10-12. The TCM said not ideal because the follcies may be empty if ovulate early otherwise it is immature and cannot implant to result a pregnancy, so I dunno how true though I do hear people O as early as CD10 and getting pregnant with no problems.

Blythe, are you now post O? How are you feeling, any symptoms?

I had a pregnancy chart I just knew i was pregnant because I had a flu, and on 12DPO there was no spotting (i used to spot 1-2 days before af and my LP is only 12 days), my temp was up to 36.8 so that prompted me to take a HPT.

Vix, acu definitely helps by regulating your body’s system and aids in blood flow to the reproductive organs and stabilizes hormone levels. This in turn will increase ovarian function in women as well as sperm production in men.

Hi shiseru

im CD9 today and may try to BD tonight but if not definitely tomorrow night...I usually ovulate on CD13 but wont be able to BD on CDs 11 & 12 as we are staying at DH's mums so it is out of the question.

Thats great the yoga is helping....once my back is better and i can actually start moving properly i will really get into the yoga as i need to strengthen my body and particularly my core as i cannot go through the agony of back pain again. How often are you doing yoga?

 

[Blythe]

My firm pays for dinner and cabs home when I stay late but it's just not enough for having your life basically stolen from you. I am particularly concerned about the stress. My acu doc kept repeating that I am very stressed and I do feel stressed most of the time when I am at work, so I am trying at least to leave early and delegate work to juniors even if that means that the quality of work will suffer, not my priority anymore

It's so easy to get caught up with work and stay late but it is physically and mentally exhausting even if we don't always realise at the time. You are doing exactly the right thing by leaving earlier than you would normally do. Professional pride is obviously a great thing but once you are on your maternity leave you wont give a hoot about the quality of the work.

 

[Briss]

Blythe, fantastic news on HSG results! it's so important so you can get pregnant naturally. I had a lot of scans in my life and on some of them my uterus is flopped over to the right side and on others it flopped over to the left side, no idea what this means but no one ever pointed to this as an issue I guess it changes its position from time to time depending on how full is your bowel, gross!

 

[shiseru]

Briss, I can't see your previous chart but your LP last cycle was 14 days so let's not read too much into a one day temp drop I hope it goes back up tomorrow.


Blythe, I am glad to hear your HSG is cleared, I had mine and it didn't hurt probably because I took some ibuprofen before hand and it helped. I didn't even noticed when the dye went in.

That was a lot of acu points shown on your attachment! The few acu points on the tummy and leg are similar to what the sinseh is doing for me, but she didn't give me any on the chest nor my hands and toes?

Today is CD11. I think i tested positive for OPK last night so we just BD and today my temp has not rise. I know it's weird to say this but I hope it stays low for another 1-2 days and I have my O later.

Oh well it's Friday here and I am gonna take it easy and enjoy my Yoga tonight. Enjoy your weekends too ladies!

 

[alison29]

I am glad you got your HSG over with so glad to hear your tubes are clear too Yay for blowing out the cobwebs.
I am still sore but icing the areas where they cut in definately helps. The dr gave me good pain meds too but i am back at work and don't want to be brain dead here today.
That is interesting about your uterus. Mine is not posiitioned in the usual way either (retroflexed). I wonder if thsi changes the way you should position your self after bd. For me the best way to keep things in would be on my stomach with a pillow under my knees so maybe yours would be on your side with a pillow under your knees there.

 

[Blythe]

Thanks for your replies.

Mmm perhaps she just looked at my complexion and eyes to see how i am. I am post O think about 4 or 5 days now.

I would love some va va voom hee hee!!

I will admit the acupuncture is working wonders. I have had 2 AFs and have not had a hot flush since January! I have also cut back on my supplements and only take prenatal vits and coq10 now.

I will wait and see if my body is performing miracles in about a week from now i think

Vix - it is so encouraging when i hear stories like yours and see what an incredible difference this treatment is having for you. Any changes it has had on me are so subtle that i struggle to really articulate what they are. Im just having to trust that something good is happening inside. I am very fortunate in that is do ovulate regularly etc so im just hoping that its sorting out my eggs and lining etc ready for my BFP.

 

[Briss]

Blythe, is Black Cohosh having any effect on you? do you feel different?

Am going to be stuck at the office all weekend, maybe not a bad thing cos it's my last 2 days before AF, tension is building up also cos I feel my body is gearing up for AF

 

[Blythe]

Briss - i hope there will be no AF for you....

I meant to report back to you before now actually on the Black Cohosh as i have had no ill effects from it at all....no changes to this months AF and in fact better than the month before as i had post AF spotting for a while. Overall ive felt quite good but im not sure i can put that down to any one thing.

if i dont get BFP this cycle i am tempted to continue with it again next cycle or perhaps have a months break and do it again. I have a good feeling about it as a supplement though, not sure why though

its good to be occupied those last couple of days but make sure you take some breaks from your desk.

 

[Briss]

Black Cohosh sounds good, I may consider trying it. although i plan to do my old herbs next cycle.

 

[vix1972]

Thanks. I did not believe in acupuncture at first and was even planning ahead for what to do when i had no results.

I have gone from being classified as menopausal by my GP at age 39 (yep thanks for that one Doc ) to now having periods again, return of CM, libido back, hot flushes gone and night sweats gone too.

I have on CD22 (6dpo i think) started bleeding lightly, no period pains but not sure whether i am on another short cycle or what!

Am glad you are recovering Alison and glad that all is in order for you.

My uterus is what the sonographer called "flopping backwards" and my cervix is not quite where it should be. Also when have u/s they cant find my right ovary right away. Guess not many of us have textbook organs lol!

 

[Blythe]

Thanks. I did not believe in acupuncture at first and was even planning ahead for what to do when i had no results.

I have gone from being classified as menopausal by my GP at age 39 (yep thanks for that one Doc ) to now having periods again, return of CM, libido back, hot flushes gone and night sweats gone too.

I have on CD22 (6dpo i think) started bleeding lightly, no period pains but not sure whether i am on another short cycle or what!

Am glad you are recovering Alison and glad that all is in order for you.

My uterus is what the sonographer called "flopping backwards" and my cervix is not quite where it should be. Also when have u/s they cant find my right ovary right away. Guess not many of us have textbook organs lol!

Are you still bleeding or is it just spotting? It may just be your cycles regularising themselves. I get spotting anytime from 3 dpo....

I was looking at hsg X-ray pictures in google and was comforted to see floppy uterus' galore!

 

[vix1972]

Thanks. I did not believe in acupuncture at first and was even planning ahead for what to do when i had no results.

I have gone from being classified as menopausal by my GP at age 39 (yep thanks for that one Doc ) to now having periods again, return of CM, libido back, hot flushes gone and night sweats gone too.

I have on CD22 (6dpo i think) started bleeding lightly, no period pains but not sure whether i am on another short cycle or what!

Am glad you are recovering Alison and glad that all is in order for you.

My uterus is what the sonographer called "flopping backwards" and my cervix is not quite where it should be. Also when have u/s they cant find my right ovary right away. Guess not many of us have textbook organs lol!

Are you still bleeding or is it just spotting? It may just be your cycles regularising themselves. I get spotting anytime from 3 dpo....

I was looking at hsg X-ray pictures in google and was comforted to see floppy uterus' galore!

Not many of us look like textbook diagrams then. I am bleeding very lightly. I am on CD23 and now 7dpo. My first cycle only lasted 20 days so dont know what is happening now. Maybe my body is trying to settle gradually. If this is AF it is very light but it means that my cycle has got bigger by two days. never had spotting before so couldnt really distinguish between it and light bleeding. I think its like firing up an old machine that hasnt worked in a while a bit of spluttering going on before normal running lol!

 

[Briss]

CD 24 for me, woke up with lots of cramping I can just feel AF is almost here, I need it to wait until Monday