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Not very helpful at all. Are you still thinking of going back to your First Acu doc soon? A summary of what she considered your deficiencies would have been much more meaningful.

I really hope you have a break from work soon briss.... It's too much when you are TTC. Does your work generally involve these long hours? Sorry if I sound daft but I haven't a clue about a lawyers work. I did my first degree in law but ended up doing research work on the end (history not law).

Well done on all the good work with your food intake. I am inspired to do the same. My DH said my stomach looks like a flat tyre and its quite true.
 
I do not know yet if I am going back to my First Acu doc, cant make up my mind. to be honest I am slightly scared of herbs. I will ask Dr Z for a summary of my deficiencies. Let's see how she will respond.

My work does generally involve long hours but usually I manage to avoid it (obviously by sacrificing the quality). everyone around me is so driven that you cant just stand still even for a while. This time it's just too much, I am totally snowed under. When I was choosing my profession I never considered myself as a mother and that I may have other priorities so I chose wrong I suppose from that perspective.

I am very pleased with myself so far re chocolate but unfortunately I just do not see any difference in my weight. I've been very good the entire week – I want my reward! I decided to weigh myself every morning so I could see if there is any progress because otherwise my weight is so random during the day I cant see if I am losing or putting on more weight

I see you got your positive OKP today, and BD every other day should be perfect, fingers crossed
 
Shiseru you are right I am prob 8-9 dpo my temp dropped this morning a bit went from days of 98.1-98.3 to 97.8 I was thinking maybe it's implantation dip...hope springs eternal i guess in my deranged lil mind. I just probably slept better is all BUT yes i will test this weekend. I will post what i get.

Briss like you needed a summary of what you wrote to them, very disappointing. It sounds like you maybe getting through the chocolate withdrawal slumps..way to go.
 
I hear you re the herbs. I have to say though i was thinking about the Black Cohosh i took last month and i had the best period i have had in well over a year after it...that was on a low dose. Anyhow, i really think it helped me build up a great lining. If i dont get a BFP i have the Black Cohosh 40g pills i ordered before so i will be taking them.

I will have another month on DHEA but i can already see that my hair is thinning out...i cannot be spotty and bald...:(

Alison - everything crossed for the weekend....we must always have hope:flower:
 
Just reading through dr z book. On p. 116 she is talking about length of time for treatments to be effective. She says it takes on average 9-12 months to get a bfp. That would be easily over 7k for a years treatment. She seems talk more of excesses than deficiencies.
 
Any of your practitioners use acu laser therapy? I think it's relatively new but there is some evidence that claims it helps with implantation. And for what it's worth... I did 2 sessions this month after my first iui, and what do you know.... :bfp:

Summer - i have just seen your sig....Im so sorry that you have a suspected ectopic. I hope you are ok. :hugs:
 
Shiseru - you have a nice big climb in temps :).... I see you are taking progesterone too. Are you taking pessaries or cream?
 
Blythe, looks like you are ovulating today I'd through in one more BD session today just for good measure

Summer - I'm very sorry about suspected ectopic, please please please before letting them do anything drastic ask for another pregnancy hormone blood test to make sure they are not making a mistake. I am sorry to be so negative but this happened to one of the ladies here she almost lost her baby and a tube because they could not find the sack on the scan - it was there all the time they just could not see it and only insisting on repeating the blood test, which showed levels steadily increasing which is not typical for ectopic, prevented the tragedy.
 
Briss - great to see you have a nice long luteal phase. Do you think you ovulated the day before FF shows you as ovulating?

It seems you cycles look better temp wise since you finished the acu and herbs! I will interested to see what my temps look like this month seeing as i no longer take the powdered herbs 2 x per day. I am taking the mini tablets but they are not so powerful.

my OPK this morning was much darker than the line i had last night so i guess ,my LH surge is peaking today....Its all feeling a bit tender in the ovaries area so i expect to ovulate tonight or tomorrow. DH was out last night drinking so hope his S are still up to the job.
 
Blythe, this is my best cycle length and temp wise since last summer... maybe it's all down to 4 months of acu and herbs, maybe quite the opposite as soon as I stopped acu and herbs my cycle finally started to recover. hard to say. I think I O Cd13 so My LH is within my normal average (shorted than what FF shows at the moment, I have no idea FF would not move my O date back to CD13)

I think that the sperm that got in yesterday pm has the best shot at it, hopefully they are all there rested after the journey and anxiously waiting for the egg ready to attack :) still I think if you can get more troops in (even tipsy ones) it'll give you more chances.

While I was away my DH had some beer I could just tell and he did not deny, so upsetting. also after visiting Dr Z he is completely refusing any herb pills (I was able to get them down his throat before, not regularly but 3-4 time a week) and he is skipping vitamins more often... I wish I did not ask him to come with me
 
no luck for me this cycle, temp dropped and i started spotting, AF will come today as scheduled. have to say I was raising my hopes up this cycle, temp looked very promising and I did not have my usual AF symptom like cramping, usually 1-2 days before AF I'd have this strong feeling like AF can show up any minute now, there was nothing like that. But I did get my sex drive back and had some familiar twinges. I also had a dream the night before the temp drop that I gave birth to a boy... :( I was trying to manage my expectations and not raise my hope up too much but probably unconsciously I did hence the dream. also FF did not help by putting my O early giving me longer LH which also kind of raised my hopes so i had to override it to stop myself dreaming.

My chinese horoscope said I can expect a child in the year of the snake - not gonna happen I think that was the last month I could've got pregnant so I could give birth in that year...

Decided to take EPO this cycle and will go to Gym from CD 4-5, in over a week I only had 3 spoons of sugar in my coffee yesterday and today - my only bad sugar! and was eating much less than usual but there is no change in my weight. I weigh myself every morning and it fluctuates but overall it's the same :( I do not understand it but definitely need to add some proper exercise.
 
Summer, I am sorry to hear about the etopic, but yes make sure the doctor double check to confirm!

Briss, after my birth i went back to exercise, though I slim down but my weight has increased because the fat turns into muscle. However when I wear my pants I know I did slim down.

Blythe, looks like you O on CD12? the BD timing looks perfect! I was told to take the progesterone, initially they gave me by oral but I requested the pessaries for insert.


Alison, a dip on 8-9DPO is a good sign, hope you get to see the BFP this weekend.

I had bad gas pain after the IUI. Stomach bloated and gassy. Very uncomfortable! Yes even my TCM commented the rise and post O temp is beautiful. Of course I pray it stays that way for the next 9 months haha! :D
 
Shiseru, your temp looks great, fingers crossed it'll stay that way

Did aerobics yesterday just before AF showed up, still no weight loss this morning. my chocolate cravings are so bad this morning I can hardly bear it. Looks like by eating less and depraving myself of chocolate I can only manage to keep myself from putting on weight but not enough to lose anything. I should start measuring myself but so far my clothes does not feel any different, still rather tight…
 
Briss :hugs::hugs: for stupid AF. Keep on going and doing all the good stuff you are doing. It will happen. Well done for staying away from choc. I have not managed the same although this nice weather is making me increasingly self conscious about revealing my body.

I am currently in st George's as my son came in with a rash that would not go He is being kept in for a couple of days on a drip and close monitoring to ensure it is it meningitis so il be staying with him.
 
Blythe, I am very sorry about your son, hopefully it's nothing serious and he will get better soon. :hugs:
 
Recently, two well known celebrities publicised their fertility issues and inability to get pregnant in the news. It is becoming increasingly more common for women to start a family in their late 30s to mid 40s. Between the ages of 35 to 45, there is a ten year period called peri-menopause, during which a woman's egg quality and egg production go into decline. This does not mean that you can't get pregnant during this time, but many women may struggle to conceive or they simply need some help.

With the help of prominent women publically sharing their fertility stories in the media, the stigma attached to fertility issues isn't as strong as it once was. These women are helping to eliminate "infertility shame" and are offering support to other women struggling to conceive.

Skating superstar Jayne Torvill, 55, confided about her struggles to conceive and lack of success with IVF on Piers Morgan's Life Stories. She put her skating career first and waited until her 40s before trying to start a family. Desperate for a baby and left devastated after an ectopic pregnancy and failed IVF, she finally decided to adopt. Whilst it happened a number of years ago, Jayne, today would have benefited from not just undergoing IVF, but also treatment to improve the health of the abdominal environment for implantation and a healthy pregnancy, which not IVF alone could succeed.

Actress and former Celebrity MasterChef winner Lisa Faulkner, 41, also revealed to the media that going through four rounds of failed IVF costing £35,000, wiped out her entire life savings and left her a "walking mess of hormones" from the daily injections. In 2008, she and her partner adopted daughter Billie when she was 15 months old. Lisa was desperate for a baby for many years and she feels very blessed to have Billie, who is now six.

Sadly Lisa's story is very common. IVF can only collect quality eggs you can produce; IVF cannot improve the quality of the eggs. Using Clexane or a medication for natural killer cells, which is thought to be able to improve the chances of implantation, is not enough. The woman needs more than just a mechanical measure or treatment in order to restore healthy blood circulation in the abdomen. Couples keep trying one cycle after another of IVF and it can be a really hard and long journey for their success to having a baby.

Although these women both had ectopic pregnancies in their 40s, that does not mean that you can't have a healthy pregnancy in your 40s or following an ectopic pregnancy. Both of these women should have been able to conceive after their ectopic pregnancies if they had the right support at the time. In many cases, ectopic pregnancies are related to blood stasis, which prevents normal blood flow to the reproductive system, especially the uterus. At The Zhai Clinic, this condition is treated through acupuncture, herbal medications and lifestyle and diet modifications. Engaging in regular exercise to promote good blood circulation and avoiding cold, raw foods and chilled/iced drinks as they constrict blood circulation will also help. The Zhai Clinic has successfully treated many women in their 40s. In fact, 33% of all the pregnancies at The Zhai Clinic are achieved by women between the ages of 40 to 43. A figure which is not much less than pregnancies for women below 35 years of age.

Today, many women start trying for a family later in their lives. Waiting until you are ready and prepared to have a baby and finding the right person in your life is more important than your age. Make sure you are living a healthy lifestyle whilst trying to get pregnant. This includes eating a balanced diet and engaging in regular, moderate exercise. Taking folic acid and other supplements (Zhai Premium Fertility Products £39.98 ) is also important to get your body in the optimal shape to conceive. Traditional Chinese Medicine can help improve the egg and sperm quality and promote a healthy uterus environment for women to improve the implantation, and has proved to be more successful than any other forms of fertility treatment. Our Pregnancy Programme at The Zhai Clinic aims to help women and men in preparation to conceive, whether naturally or combined with assisted fertility treatment; and has proved highly successful. Do not rush to start IVF if you are not ready, as it will take you longer to conceive.
 
Dr Zhai sent me a short additional summary saying that I have liver qi stagnation which also causes raised heat. In relation to this, my ovary function is effected and as a result, my FSH is elevated and my cycles are slightly shorter than normal. Our initial treatment intends to soothe the liver qi and reduce heat. Once the initial goal has been achieved, we will see whether we need to improve other part of my internal system. Please avoid spicy food such as curry and chilli, include plenty of fruit and vegetables in your diet and no alcohol.

That's quite good I am just still not clear why she needs all these blood test to begin the treatment while she seems to know what's wrong and how to treat it
 
Dr Zhai sent me a short additional summary saying that I have liver qi stagnation which also causes raised heat. In relation to this, my ovary function is effected and as a result, my FSH is elevated and my cycles are slightly shorter than normal. Our initial treatment intends to soothe the liver qi and reduce heat. Once the initial goal has been achieved, we will see whether we need to improve other part of my internal system. Please avoid spicy food such as curry and chilli, include plenty of fruit and vegetables in your diet and no alcohol.

That's quite good I am just still not clear why she needs all these blood test to begin the treatment while she seems to know what's wrong and how to treat it


https://www.eastmountain.ca/10liverqi.pdf

There is lots you can do yourself for liver qi stagnation inc. above and might be worth seeing which points you can press yourself. I'm glad she provided more info on how she would treat you.
 
surprisingly I must avoid raw vegetable juices and nuts! these are good things, are they not? here goes my juicing and snaking on nuts to help with chocolate cravings ...
 
I am sorry about your son Blythe will be thinking of you. That is nerve wracking not know what is causing symptoms. How old is your son?

Briss sorry bout AF. Its good to have hope though without it we would give up. It's going to happen for you, I know it just keep on trying diff things it will pay off.

AFM I didn't test or temp this morning. I will let you know what comes of tomorrow morn just not feeling much different then usual though and didn't want to waste a HPT. Woke up really late today can't wait to see what the temp is tomorrow.
 

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