Chinese Accupuncture

[Blythe]

i had a disappointing temp dip today and am feeling the familiar cramps that i tend to get a few days before period. Im a little gutted but not as gutted as other months....im pleased with the prog cream as i have not had spotting so that is an improvement....will up my COQ10 this month to 600mg if i do enter a new cycle and drag my arse down to the chinese place near my house that i checked out a couple of months ago. I know my body so well now that im 99% sure im out this month. Still means i can drink lots of booze on christmas day!

 

[Briss]

Blythe, do not want to raise your hopes up but no spotting is a very good sign, a fellow B&B member had spotting after 10 DPO every cycle and the only cycle she did not get spotting was when she got her BFP (after TTC for 8 years!), Also you have another 6 days before AF is due and who knows it might have been implantation deep. Let's hope so. Although I do take your point about knowing your body I feel the same way. I will go back to 300 coq10 and then see how it goes. Observing your temp can be so stressful you cant help it but get your hopes up, I stopped doing it and only temped to check my O date but acu practitioner asked me to temp full cycle so I am back on obsessing about my temp

 

[Blythe]

Blythe, do not want to raise your hopes up but no spotting is a very good sign, a fellow B&B member had spotting after 10 DPO every cycle and the only cycle she did not get spotting was when she got her BFP (after TTC for 8 years!), Also you have another 6 days before AF is due and who knows it might have been implantation deep. Let's hope so. Although I do take your point about knowing your body I feel the same way. I will go back to 300 coq10 and then see how it goes. Observing your temp can be so stressful you cant help it but get your hopes up, I stopped doing it and only temped to check my O date but acu practitioner asked me to temp full cycle so I am back on obsessing about my temp

Thank you for those encouraging words. I can hardly imagine the joy i will feel when i get that bfp.....the temping does have its downfalls but then benefits too......it breaks up the 2ww and sometimes gives me glimmers of hope and helps me prepare mentally for period. I think its good you are going back to coq10....the more i read about it the more i think that will make the difference.

 

[Briss]

my temp started its inevitable descend, woke up with lots of cramps, AF is on her way, might not even get to test on Sunday. am supposed to go to the firm's Christmas party tonight and although I am 99.9% sure I am out still wont feel comfortable drinking cos of "what if" thoughts in my head. LTTTC is no fun, just pain. may not even bother covering my acne for tonight, who cares

 

[Blythe]

my temp started its inevitable descend, woke up with lots of cramps, AF is on her way, might not even get to test on Sunday. am supposed to go to the firm's Christmas party tonight and although I am 99.9% sure I am out still wont feel comfortable drinking cos of "what if" thoughts in my head. LTTTC is no fun, just pain. may not even bother covering my acne for tonight, who cares

Ltttc is crap and your message made me feel sad. Im sure you will be fine having a drink or two tonight. I know exactly how you feel....im having the same cramps and will be having a drink tonight. DH just said "smile, its friday"...feel like telling him to piss off!

 

[myra]

I'm coming in late to this thread as I see it was posted in August...but if you're still looking for positive stories, wanted to share that Acupuncture worked for me.

I had an early miscarriage in June and in July started seeing an acupuncturist who specializes in fertility. My OH and I took a cycle off from ttc after the mc, and 2 cycles later I was pregnant. I'm certain the acupuncture played a key role in getting pregnant, maintaining my pregnancy and keeping my morning sickness on the mild side.

Before acupuncture, my cycles ranged from 26-32 days and O happened between days 11-20. The treatments brought me to regular 28 day cycles with O on days 13/14.

I went weekly from July through through first trimester. Now that I'm entering second tri, I am dropping down to every other week.

Best of luck to all of you!!!

 

[~Brandy~]

Hi Everyone! I am a little late to the party too..

I am in my 3rd week of acu treatment for fertility. I am hoping and praying that something works soon!

 

[vkj73]

welcome myra and brandy!

so, an update, i went to a fertility specialist today. he said my eggs look great, but due to my irregular cycles and age (39) he recommend clomid and iui.

niether my dh or i want to go this route.

i'd really like to stick with as many natural methods as possible.
i actually just posted on the 1st trimester thread to see if any mamas
go their bfps with all natural methods.

the doctor was able to show me that i either had or am about to ov, so that gave me some hope (esp. since i just had a peak on the cbfm this morning).

for all!!!

 

[Blythe]

I'm coming in late to this thread as I see it was posted in August...but if you're still looking for positive stories, wanted to share that Acupuncture worked for me.

I had an early miscarriage in June and in July started seeing an acupuncturist who specializes in fertility. My OH and I took a cycle off from ttc after the mc, and 2 cycles later I was pregnant. I'm certain the acupuncture played a key role in getting pregnant, maintaining my pregnancy and keeping my morning sickness on the mild side.

Before acupuncture, my cycles ranged from 26-32 days and O happened between days 11-20. The treatments brought me to regular 28 day cycles with O on days 13/14.

I went weekly from July through through first trimester. Now that I'm entering second tri, I am dropping down to every other week.

Best of luck to all of you!!!

Myra....wonderful news! H&H rest of your pregnancy x

 

[Blythe]

welcome myra and brandy!

so, an update, i went to a fertility specialist today. he said my eggs look great, but due to my irregular cycles and age (39) he recommend clomid and iui.

niether my dh or i want to go this route.

i'd really like to stick with as many natural methods as possible.
i actually just posted on the 1st trimester thread to see if any mamas
go their bfps with all natural methods.

the doctor was able to show me that i either had or am about to ov, so that gave me some hope (esp. since i just had a peak on the cbfm this morning).

for all!!!

Hi vkj.....how does he know your eggs look great? I only say that coz i had an internal scan a few weeks back and she said i had lots of eggs ive never done a amh test or whatever its called. My dh is going to do a SA next week (they messed up the last one) and if it comes back rubbish i may look at iui or perhaps chinese herbs and acu for him as well as me. Felt terribly sad last night as know AF is on way but feel better today as im thinking of the next plan of action!

Get BD!

 

[Blythe]

Hi Everyone! I am a little late to the party too..

I am in my 3rd week of acu treatment for fertility. I am hoping and praying that something works soon!

Hi brandy. Are you enjoying it? I will be going back to it as ive had a break for a few cycles (££££££ reasons) but with after another BFN due any day now im going to embrace the needles and pond water tea once again!

 

[~Brandy~]

I am enjoying it. I actually started during my week of ovulation. She just uses different points for different parts of the cycle.

Today is CD1 for me here we go again

 

[Blythe]

Wow you dont look old enough to have a 20 yo! Im a couple of days behind you....sorry AF got you....

 

[Briss]

Myra, congratulations!! H&H rest of your pregnancy

VKJ, I also really want to try naturally although after 2 years and with poor sperm count it seems less and less likely. I may give it another couple of cycles and hope my hubby will come to accept the inevitable by then and we move to IVF

Brandy, welcome! it's great that your acu doc uses different points for different parts of the cycle. Mine uses the same so I am beginning to think that although she is a great doc she may know that much about fertility. I am still going to stick with her cos I still think acu improves my health in general.

Blythe, do not lose hope you still have a while to go before AF is due, there is still time for implantation.

afm, temp dropped this morning and AF is almost here I am hoping I can hold it until tomorrow cos 12 day LH phase would be very unusual for me. If it comes today that would probably mean I and FF got my O day wrong and I O on CD10 so we did not have enough BD.

 

[vkj73]

welcome myra and brandy!

so, an update, i went to a fertility specialist today. he said my eggs look great, but due to my irregular cycles and age (39) he recommend clomid and iui.

niether my dh or i want to go this route.

i'd really like to stick with as many natural methods as possible.
i actually just posted on the 1st trimester thread to see if any mamas
go their bfps with all natural methods.

the doctor was able to show me that i either had or am about to ov, so that gave me some hope (esp. since i just had a peak on the cbfm this morning).

for all!!!

Hi vkj.....how does he know your eggs look great? I only say that coz i had an internal scan a few weeks back and she said i had lots of eggs ive never done a amh test or whatever its called. My dh is going to do a SA next week (they messed up the last one) and if it comes back rubbish i may look at iui or perhaps chinese herbs and acu for him as well as me. Felt terribly sad last night as know AF is on way but feel better today as im thinking of the next plan of action!

Get BD!

I think he meant the numbers look great.

 

[Blythe]

welcome myra and brandy!

so, an update, i went to a fertility specialist today. he said my eggs look great, but due to my irregular cycles and age (39) he recommend clomid and iui.

niether my dh or i want to go this route.

i'd really like to stick with as many natural methods as possible.
i actually just posted on the 1st trimester thread to see if any mamas
go their bfps with all natural methods.

the doctor was able to show me that i either had or am about to ov, so that gave me some hope (esp. since i just had a peak on the cbfm this morning).

for all!!!

Hi vkj.....how does he know your eggs look great? I only say that coz i had an internal scan a few weeks back and she said i had lots of eggs ive never done a amh test or whatever its called. My dh is going to do a SA next week (they messed up the last one) and if it comes back rubbish i may look at iui or perhaps chinese herbs and acu for him as well as me. Felt terribly sad last night as know AF is on way but feel better today as im thinking of the next plan of action!

Get BD!

I think he meant the numbers look great.

Thats great news and very reassuring.

 

[Briss]

I am reading a very interesting book on how Chinese medicine works and it says that a TCM practitioner can say by your pulse whether you are pregnant, it has to be deep and slippery apparently. not surprisingly whenever I asked her after O that I could be pregnant so careful with the needles she seemed to be ignoring me, she checks my pulse every time so i guess that's how she knew I was not pregnant

 

[Blythe]

Its really interesting isnt it....i think they say if there a number of slippery pulses then there may be a pregnancy...are you going today?

I got a negative this am as expected. I only did the test so i can stop the prog cream.....im going to the tcm guy in balham today and will talk to them about a programme that i can afford and that gives me a better chance. I will do this for three months and then in the meantime look into iui dependent upon dh's SA results which he will do Again later this week. I wonder how much a natural IVF would be...do you think about 4k?

 

[Briss]

Sorry about your bfn, still it's too early to test. I did not bother testing today, no need my temp speaks for itself, cant bear seeing bfns. AF is not here yet for which I am greatful cos really hate it when I get short cycles, that's a side effect that i got from my lap&Dye/Hysteroscopy, my cycles went crazy short. Am off to my last 7th sessions but determined to extend it if they offer the same deal. Ordered some more herbs for my hubby. Poor DH he already knows if my temp goes down I am gonna be really depressed for days so he trying to exercise more cos it supposed to increase his testosterone levels sweet but deep down I know that's not gonna be enough, we really should move to IVF.

Natural IVF is way cheaper than normal IVF cos most of the cost goes into stimulating meds and in natural IVF you do not have any meds. They never put the prices for meds on their websites which is bizarre cos meds are 2-3 times the cost of IVF itself. A lady on B&B did two natural IVF cycles at Create Health, one was 3500 and the other 5000 cos they added some meds. We will have to do it with ICSI so I think ours will come to around 5000. but again I am hoping no meds will be necessary.

Natural Cycle IVF: £2450
Natural/Modified cycle ICSI (in addition to cycle fee): £870
Natural/Modified cycle IVM & ICSI (in addition to cycle fee): £1000
Stimulated Cycle IVF: £2950 (this does not include the meds)
ICSI (in addition to cycle fee): £950

 

[Blythe]

Hey briss....thanks for info...i suppose the other costs are all the consultancy fees and any testing they need to do inc. SA and bloods, scans etc as my nhs ones might be out of date by the time i do iui/ivf.

Its awful that those tests affected your cycles like that....i was considering pushing for an hsg but think il leave it to be honest.

That is very sweet of your DH...i think it hard for men but they are just wired differently to us. My one said i should hold out from going to the tcm practice till he gets his SA results back but i ignored him and have just come back with a bag of herbs and had a session. I explained that i effectively chucked a load of cash down the drain this year as that is how i feel about my last experience of tcm. The bags of herbs are small so not impressed with that! I got 5 sessions Acu and 5 weeks of herbs for £268 but he says i should be able to cut back on the berbs when my body temp has come up and my hands and feet are not so cold.....we will see. He said its fine to continue with all my other bits and bods i take as long as i take them around an hour after my herbs.