Chinese Accupuncture

[Briss]

Denise welch seems to be doing IVF so ...

cos of Middleton, now everyone is going to go crazy with all this talk about pregnancy etc, I am fleeing the country

I had some soup and half sandwich for lunch but other than that just herbs and juices. I have been so good at cutting down chocolate and food in general. I am surprised really

 

[Blythe]

Denise welch seems to be doing IVF so ...

cos of Middleton, now everyone is going to go crazy with all this talk about pregnancy etc, I am fleeing the country

I had some soup and half sandwich for lunch but other than that just herbs and juices. I have been so good at cutting down chocolate and food in general. I am surprised really

As expected everyone talking about it at work....the girl who is pregnant was boasting that she beat them to it as they married after but conceived earlier...I had to leave the office.

You are doing well....I had a juice for breakfast And a pack of rhubarb and custard sweets for lunch and a donut which were brought in for someone's birthday. Still il have soup tonight....

 

[Briss]

Blythe look at your positive OPK, time to get busy

Am meeting friends for dinner tonight so will be hard to stick to my diet. I've been craving anything chocolate, preferably croissant the whole day but so far has managed to go without

Dh was very upset last night, his insurance refused to pay for urologist so we either have to wait for months for an NHS appointment or go privately but he is so put off by the whole experience that he does not even want to talk about it. men can be so sensitive.

My temp is still quite low for post O levels despite all the herbs and FF seems to think that I O on CD10 which is super early and also we may have missed it cos we only BD once before CD10.

 

[MalaMae]

Hey ladies, I was looking in your charts and I remembered what my acu told me couple of session ago. He said it's not good the temps after ovulation to go up and down, but steady line is preferred. He was happy when he saw the last chart the temps were in a nice curve, instead of sharp ups and downs like in the previous months.

Btw, have you noticed an increase in the temperatures generally, through the whole month?

 

[JandK]

I have my first accupuncture appointment on Dec. 10. Looking forward to it. Not sure what to expect though..Me and my partner have tried doing inseminations for 7 cycles. 6 IUI and one with donor sperm and a softcup. We are using a sperm bank in Illinois. My FSH is high at 15 and I was put on thyroid meds in July for hypothyroidism. We are going to do another IUI in March right after my 40th birthday. Good luck everyone.

 

[Blythe]

Hey ladies, I was looking in your charts and I remembered what my acu told me couple of session ago. He said it's not good the temps after ovulation to go up and down, but steady line is preferred. He was happy when he saw the last chart the temps were in a nice curve, instead of sharp ups and downs like in the previous months.

Btw, have you noticed an increase in the temperatures generally, through the whole month?

Hi malamae. I remember you saying that before. Mine are very jumpy so I'm introducing prog cream this cycle post ovulation....will see if that helps. Your temps are nice and smooth...have you got a positive opk yet? I swore I would relax this month and stear clear of all fertility stuff on line and opks but you know how it goes!!

 

[Blythe]

Blythe look at your positive OPK, time to get busy

Am meeting friends for dinner tonight so will be hard to stick to my diet. I've been craving anything chocolate, preferably croissant the whole day but so far has managed to go without

Dh was very upset last night, his insurance refused to pay for urologist so we either have to wait for months for an NHS appointment or go privately but he is so put off by the whole experience that he does not even want to talk about it. men can be so sensitive.

My temp is still quite low for post O levels despite all the herbs and FF seems to think that I O on CD10 which is super early and also we may have missed it cos we only BD once before CD10.

Men are so so sensitive. I have been raising the subject of ivf for a while and he never wants to tAlk about it.....but last night surprised me and said he would be up for adoption....to be honest I just threw it into the mix and had not really given it much thought before but now I'm thinking about it. I will give this another 3/4 cycles then take some action.

I wonder how much a private appt with a urologist will be? What do they do?

I reckon you o on day 11.....the month I got pregnant with my son I only BD once that whole month.....I don't BD lots maybe 3/4 times around o..did last night so maybe late tonight or in morning.

Enjoy your meal this evening....im eating again as just too hungry when I get home!

 

[Blythe]

I have my first accupuncture appointment on Dec. 10. Looking forward to it. Not sure what to expect though..Me and my partner have tried doing inseminations for 7 cycles. 6 IUI and one with donor sperm and a softcup. We are using a sperm bank in Illinois. My FSH is high at 15 and I was put on thyroid meds in July for hypothyroidism. We are going to do another IUI in March right after my 40th birthday. Good luck everyone.

Hi......your first appt will be quite long as they should ask you lots of questions inc. all sorts of things your health and observe you and then check your pulse (on three different parts of your wrist) and check your tongue. TCM is a really nice gentle way of approaching health issues and can be very good for balancing your hormones ready for pregnancy...I have read so many amazing stories. I have tried a number of different practioners and I'm currently having a break from it....will return in the new year if I don't get my bfp this cycle. Let us know how your appt goes on the 10th...

 

[JandK]

I have my first accupuncture appointment on Dec. 10. Looking forward to it. Not sure what to expect though..Me and my partner have tried doing inseminations for 7 cycles. 6 IUI and one with donor sperm and a softcup. We are using a sperm bank in Illinois. My FSH is high at 15 and I was put on thyroid meds in July for hypothyroidism. We are going to do another IUI in March right after my 40th birthday. Good luck everyone.

Hi......your first appt will be quite long as they should ask you lots of questions inc. all sorts of things your health and observe you and then check your pulse (on three different parts of your wrist) and check your tongue. TCM is a really nice gentle way of approaching health issues and can be very good for balancing your hormones ready for pregnancy...I have read so many amazing stories. I have tried a number of different practioners and I'm currently having a break from it....will return in the new year if I don't get my bfp this cycle. Let us know how your appt goes on the 10th...

Thanks for letting me know what will happen on my first visit. I will let you know how my visit goes...

 

[Briss]

MalaMay, I actually noticed a very prominent decrease in my temp (both before and after O) but so far post O temp seems to be forming an upward line and not fluctuating as much. Although O on CD 10 is super early and not normal for me. Your post O temp last cycle was rather good, I do not think I ever had such a steady line.

JandK, have you considered doing IVF with your DH's sperm instead of IUI? Are you also going to be taking Chinese herbs as well acu? I think acu is really good together with IVF/IUI but herbs are a bit controversial. Let us know how your appointment goes.

Blythe, where did you get your prog cream? was it prescribed by FS? I just wander if I should try that as well. I have been raising the subject of ivf for a while with my DH but he said we should go to Spain cos it costs less there. I do not think it is a very good idea cos I have no idea how this works in Spain I do not speak the language and also all these trips are going to cost a lot plus taking time off work can be tricky. Not sure about prices for a private appt with a urologist but together with tests I am sure it's going to be not less than 1-2K. I want urologist to look at my hubby just to make sure everything is how it should be, no obstruction, lumps ect and also find out the reason for low sperm count. is it just beer and low testosterone as a result or is it something that cannot be treated so easily. and if it is just cos of low testosterone then get a prescription that can help with this. I also hope I o on day 11 rather than 10 (makes me feel more normal) not sure why FF is being so disagreeable.

 

[MalaMae]

MalaMay, I actually noticed a very prominent decrease in my temp (both before and after O) but so far post O temp seems to be forming an upward line and not fluctuating as much. Although O on CD 10 is super early and not normal for me. Your post O temp last cycle was rather good, I do not think I ever had such a steady line.

Last month I had the same concern about O on CD10, but he said as long as the LP is normal, you don't have to worry. Besides my sister is convinced that she conceived her both kids in early-O month.
As for the line post-O, this was the first time I had such a steady line!

 

[Blythe]

MalaMay, I actually noticed a very prominent decrease in my temp (both before and after O) but so far post O temp seems to be forming an upward line and not fluctuating as much. Although O on CD 10 is super early and not normal for me. Your post O temp last cycle was rather good, I do not think I ever had such a steady line.

JandK, have you considered doing IVF with your DH's sperm instead of IUI? Are you also going to be taking Chinese herbs as well acu? I think acu is really good together with IVF/IUI but herbs are a bit controversial. Let us know how your appointment goes.

Blythe, where did you get your prog cream? was it prescribed by FS? I just wander if I should try that as well. I have been raising the subject of ivf for a while with my DH but he said we should go to Spain cos it costs less there. I do not think it is a very good idea cos I have no idea how this works in Spain I do not speak the language and also all these trips are going to cost a lot plus taking time off work can be tricky. Not sure about prices for a private appt with a urologist but together with tests I am sure it's going to be not less than 1-2K. I want urologist to look at my hubby just to make sure everything is how it should be, no obstruction, lumps ect and also find out the reason for low sperm count. is it just beer and low testosterone as a result or is it something that cannot be treated so easily. and if it is just cos of low testosterone then get a prescription that can help with this. I also hope I o on day 11 rather than 10 (makes me feel more normal) not sure why FF is being so disagreeable.

Hi briss.....how many SA tests has dh had? If only one maybe you can get another from NHS..maybe that maca is working..yeah I think ivf costs abroad would be very attractive but it's just all the other stuff, as you say, work is a big one! I got the prog cream from eBay....I self diagnosed.....I spot during 2ww and jumpy temps so I'm going to give it a shot along with baby aspirin. Tbh probably blown it Put of the window by having a few drinks earlier with some old work friends....it wa so good to see them and work is so stressful at mo that I thought sod it! Probably ovulating today athough will see what ff says in a couple of days.

 

[JandK]

MalaMay, I actually noticed a very prominent decrease in my temp (both before and after O) but so far post O temp seems to be forming an upward line and not fluctuating as much. Although O on CD 10 is super early and not normal for me. Your post O temp last cycle was rather good, I do not think I ever had such a steady line.

JandK, have you considered doing IVF with your DH's sperm instead of IUI? Are you also going to be taking Chinese herbs as well acu? I think acu is really good together with IVF/IUI but herbs are a bit controversial. Let us know how your appointment goes.

Blythe, where did you get your prog cream? was it prescribed by FS? I just wander if I should try that as well. I have been raising the subject of ivf for a while with my DH but he said we should go to Spain cos it costs less there. I do not think it is a very good idea cos I have no idea how this works in Spain I do not speak the language and also all these trips are going to cost a lot plus taking time off work can be tricky. Not sure about prices for a private appt with a urologist but together with tests I am sure it's going to be not less than 1-2K. I want urologist to look at my hubby just to make sure everything is how it should be, no obstruction, lumps ect and also find out the reason for low sperm count. is it just beer and low testosterone as a result or is it something that cannot be treated so easily. and if it is just cos of low testosterone then get a prescription that can help with this. I also hope I o on day 11 rather than 10 (makes me feel more normal) not sure why FF is being so disagreeable.

I am in a Lesbian relationship so there is no choice but to use donor sperm. We used fresh donor sperm when we used the softcup. We have talked about IVF but we just dont have the money. All of my fertility stuff comes out of our monthly budget. It is $500 for a vial of semen at the sperm bank that we go to. $100 of that is shipping.

 

[Blythe]

Cor! That's expensive! I used a soft cup today after dtd and I find it quite tricky to get it in right....I see you have another iui lined up so hopefully the acupuncture and herbs will get you nice and ready. It's all so bleeding expensive...I have been eyeing up iui and ivf but the costs are almost prohibitive!

 

[Briss]

MalaMae, it might be due to the weird herds we have been taking. I'll see what my temp does in the next few days and may be continue taking them if I also get such steady line.

Blythe, My DH had 3 tests over the last couple of years, the first was really bad so we repeated it and it came back as 12 million, low count but still ok, then I put him on vitamins but this year his count dropped to below 3 million. Although he was drinking beer to excess. He is now trying to cut down. My FS refused to refer him to urologist, which is crazy they spent NHS money on taking me through very invasive and expensive procedures like lap while all the time she knew that the problem was DH's sperm count, it would have been much cheaper to look into his issues rather than mine but they do not work like that, they have a list of procedures aim at checking women and she just goes through the list ticking boxes to decide whether we qualify for IVF. so useless! You are right, spotting after O is usually a good indication of low progesterone. I started spotting after I had lap/hysteroscopy but only after AF for a couple of days so may be I should not do any extra progesterone. but then my temps are not as high which might also be due to lower progesterone. Looking at your chart you may even O yesterday cos you had a rise today.

I continue with juices and back on pineapples I am so surprised I can last the entire day without chocolate

 

[Briss]

JandK, silly me and yes that's super expensive it's like paying $500 each time we BD, oh dear!

Bluythe, I also bought softcups cos everyone is saying how great they are but when I saw them I just could not find it in me in put them in, they are huge and so tough I am afraid I will damage my cervix

 

[Blythe]

MalaMae, it might be due to the weird herds we have been taking. I'll see what my temp does in the next few days and may be continue taking them if I also get such steady line.

Blythe, My DH had 3 tests over the last couple of years, the first was really bad so we repeated it and it came back as 12 million, low count but still ok, then I put him on vitamins but this year his count dropped to below 3 million. Although he was drinking beer to excess. He is now trying to cut down. My FS refused to refer him to urologist, which is crazy they spent NHS money on taking me through very invasive and expensive procedures like lap while all the time she knew that the problem was DH's sperm count, it would have been much cheaper to look into his issues rather than mine but they do not work like that, they have a list of procedures aim at checking women and she just goes through the list ticking boxes to decide whether we qualify for IVF. so useless! You are right, spotting after O is usually a good indication of low progesterone. I started spotting after I had lap/hysteroscopy but only after AF for a couple of days so may be I should not do any extra progesterone. but then my temps are not as high which might also be due to lower progesterone. Looking at your chart you may even O yesterday cos you had a rise today.

I continue with juices and back on pineapples I am so surprised I can last the entire day without chocolate

Yes very frustrating having to deal with the Nhs sometimes....they have their standard procedures to follow when common sense would be to further investigate the male fActor....it's always us ladies! I will Dtd in the am then that's probably it for this fertile period...will see if I get a raise in the am but if I did ovulate yesterday that will the earliest since I've started ttc. It's too cold to Dtd....I'm wearing so many layers!

 

[JandK]

I thought the softcups were obnoxiously big but other than that I found it easy to use.

 

[Blythe]

Hey bliss

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...s-blaming-woman-baby-FEMAIL-investigates.html

Saw this this about poor sperm count

 

[Briss]

Blythe, thanks, I can relate to every line in this article makes me so furious! out FS would not even refer my DH to urologist. your chart is looking good, that's a definite temp raise

I have been quite bad today, had a chocolate cake for lunch and quite a few chocolates after that...

My temp dropped today no steady line for me this cycle, these herbs did not work