Chinese Accupuncture

[Briss]

I am glad you are doing acu again, I totally understand how annoying it is to hear about your kidney function over and over again but to be honest I do not think it's true, you produced so many eggs, surely your kidney function is absolutely fine. something is not working between your eggs and your DH's sperm but your eggs are not to blame, for your age you are super young.

I used to hate desperate housewives, I could not understand how anyone could find it interesting to watch but am onto 3rd series clearly I changed ... I really like the Mexican couple, their relationship remind me of my Dh and I, all that arguing also their dramatic TTC story although not at all like ours still at least it was not easy for them.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - have you made plans for CR yet or waiting till after scan to book flights?

 

[Briss]

Blythe, I cant really book anything until I know when EC is going to be, it's a bit of a mess to be honest. I am not feeling positive at all. I booked my scan for Thursday afternoon. they did not ask for bloods but I want to do them as well cos I am quite sure they can get a lot more information from my LH levels. I am thinking that I am likely to trigger on Thursday as well but obviously who knows. also it seems to be only ryanair that flies directly to brno and prices go up every day, booking the next day flight might cost us a lot. also I cant book the return cos I have no idea if they can get the egg etc etc so I may have to go back on the same day if EC is not successful. basically I am trying to keep calm until Thursday and will be booking hotels on a day by day basis.

diet wise I think I am good, eating my proteins, whole milk, greens, whole grains, a bit of chocolate but mainly stuffing myself with nuts if I crave chocolate, no coffee today. still, I have diarrhea and constant mild headache. I started new solgar female multi vits and their Alaskan salmon fish oil which might be responsible but I am not sure. I am still fighting for this cycle but it just feels like nothing goes right and the first few days are the crucial ones for FSH/egg development so not feeling good about the whole thing.

 

[Blythe]

Well done on the good intake - that sounds great and double well done on the coffee front!

i had that alaskan fish oil - its the best.

all you can do is deal with it one day at a time i suppose. i am terrible without a firm plan in place...i would have been a rubbish hippie. Having been overdosing on fertility meditations in recent weeks one of the things i take away from it is acknowledging my feelings and not trying to change them....particularly when they are negative. for example, when i hear about a pregnancy i feel really sad and jealous. So instead of feeling bad about that i just sit with it without any judgement until it goes.

if you are feeling negative about this cycle i don't think that will have any impact on the result....so don't sweat about that. Just focus on the practical stuff. Quite frankly trying to be positive about this stuff is exhausting - you may find that feeling negative is placing far less stress on you and your body can just focus on getting you pregnant...

Have you had to make any payments up front to the clinic or is it all done on day of EC?

 

[Briss]

there is a question of STD tests, payments, consent forms which I do not know how we are going to go about. I did not get any answers yet.

I found a new TTC friend! she is 42 and suffers from recurrent mc. it was so unexpected, she is my business partner and we were having our usual lunch but somehow the subject matter changed and moved to her mc and that's how I found out that she TTC (and her age! I was sure she was in her late 20s) so the legal stuff was immediately forgotten and we only talked TTC

 

[alison29]

Briss the headache maybe be the coffee (lack of). Good luck this weekend. I haven't had much to say lately but i have been reading. It must be hard waiting until the last minute to plan the trip. Good job with diet!

 

[nobump]

Good luck with your cycle Briss. Its good you have a new buddy.

I too have been reading but not posting. This cycle is a big fail DH has been unwell so missed O this month. Did noticed increased CM not sure if down to Chinese herbs. Have switched to tablets might use raw herbs just before AF to help with heavy bleeding. My GP is referring my for the heavy bleeding.

 

[Blythe]

No bump - have you had any noticeable changes since starting ACU and herbs? Any improvement in mood, skin etc etc. I have started herbs and ACU again and am always interested to see if others benefit from it.

Are you bring referred to local hospital for the bleeding?

Alison - hi hope you are well. Are you pre or post ovulation?

Briss - it's great that you have found someone to talk to about this stuff. I hope that you will both be able to talk pregnancy stuff soon. I will look forward to your post scan update and have everything crossed that everything is as it should be and you can go and get a lovely big healthy egg retrieved.

 

[alison29]

Hi Blythe I am post ovulation. I got my surge friday morning. Bd thursday night and sat morning so that is good. I started taking vitex about 3 wks ago. My ov date moved from 15 to 14 this cycle so it's doing something

 

[alison29]

We'll see if it does anything else. Are you still doing your smoothies? I am sorry to hear dh is being a turd as far as health. My dh goes thru those phases too. Not the cycling yet but maybe it will be hottubs or something. His thing is coke zero and rum. I thought about your reaction to pregnant women today when i walked by one and I have to admit my reflex is to think something negative/mean about the person. Which i know isn't fair at all they did't cause my problem! Need to work on that!

 

[alison29]

No bump do you think it could be something blood thinning in the herbs causing the bleeding? Are you taking baby aspirin or anything?

 

[Blythe]

Alison. Good bd timing. I have everything crossed for you. Would you consider another iui? I have been thinking about it.


I used to feel bad about my reaction to pregnant women. It just makes me feel terribly sad about my inability to get pregnant.

I got home from work today and massaged my feet (uterus, ovaries and Fallopian tubes points). I then massaged my tummy with caster oil and I'm about to go and do a fertility meditation so feeling quite focused although have not dropped caffeine. I'm being quite good with everything else though so as long as at least 70% is good stuff then I won't beat myself up.

 

[nobump]

Alison I bleed heavy because of my thyroid. The herbs could be thinning the blood. Been prescribed new meds can't remember the name but think all they'll do is make md clot more.

Blythe I to have negative thoughts when I see pregnant women. The cleaner at work is expecting twins heard her talking to someone else. But manage to cut her attempt to talk to me about it short. Think hearing her chuck up in the toilets was enough.

 

[alison29]

I would consider an IUI but dh wouldn't. I would do IVF if he would. He just thinks if it happens it happens if not oh well. He is pretty happy status quo but the no birth control is a compromise for us. He has no idea how much i think about this. I am not off caffeine totally yet either. I have been doing decaf teas and even a decaf coffee this morning. It wasn't that great either but i know the brand i bought as 9 mg per cup plus the peanut m and ms i ate. 70% is good Blythe I used to be a 20% person lol now i think i am 70% good too.

 

[alison29]

I have heard great things about castor oil too. Do you massage it in and leave it? or use heat oo?

 

[nobump]

Blythe think thd acu is helping to relax me more. But think everything that has happened this year has changed my view on things.

 

[Vonn]

Hi all, I've been reading but not posting here lately.

Briss--Curious about how things are going. Thursday's come and gone for you, right?

Blythe--Hope the reflexology & acu are going well!

Alison--Fxed for this TWW!

No Bump--You get heavier periods due to a thyroid problem? Low or high thyroid? I have low and my periods have gotten lights. I hope acu works for you! I feel good doing it, but haven't noticed any major improvement, other than enjoying it.

AFM--I had an appt with a new dr on Tuesday and have been grumpy ever since. I promised another thread I would not rant about this anymore, but I'm curious about your thoughts as LTTTCers. Maybe you've heard some of this before? How do you handle drs like this--find someone new or cultivate the relationship and try to bring them along to your way of thinking?

She came in and tried to recap my situation after having "glanced" at what records had come in--she got things wrong, hadn't noticed that my DH's SA was included, etc. That drove me crazy!!!! Such a bad first impression. Would it not have been kind and insightful of her to ask me to talk about myself and what was bringing me in??

Then she went on to totally blow off BBT, which also makes me crazy.

She also said she wouldn't bother to test my progesterone because I do not have a perfect 28 day cycle with ov on day 14. I've read multiple places elsewhere that if you don't ov on day 14 you should just get your progesterone checked at 7DPO. What do you ladies think about this?

She also shut down my interest in bringing up certain tests I would like to have done (per Making Babies book). When I mentioned there were other things I'd like to have checked, she "We can talk about that later."

She wasn't totally off her rocker and did want to have FSH, AMH, Estradiol checked on day 3, do an HSG on day 5-9, and follow a cycle through with ultrasounds to check follicle development and lining thickness. I'm totally for all those...and about 10 other tests.

The problem is that I was really excited about this appt, next steps and all. She just let the air out of my tires & left me really deflated. I'm so afraid that I have no time left, so for someone to balk at (actually, not even entertain consideration of) checking into things that would not be difficult to test, makes me both furious and incredibly sad.

Sometimes I don't know how to handle my emotions. This is just so emotionally exhausting. But I can't walk away because if I do I don't get a baby. That's how I feel & why one so-so dr visit can upend me.

 

[nobump]

Think I keep typing wrong thing I have a fibroid.

Vonn your doc seems to wamt to do half of the blood work. But can't see why not day 21 test. But doing the ultrasounds will let you see what is happening. Is this private or nhs?

 

[nobump]

Think I keep typing wrong thing I have a fibroid.

Vonn your doc seems to wamt to do half of the blood work. But can't see why not day 21 test. But doing the ultrasounds will let you see what is happening. Is this private or nhs?

 

[Briss]

Vonn, I feel for you. what a disappointment! I was annoyed even reading about your experience I cant imagine how frustrating it must have been for you. Of course you should check your progesterone on day 7 after O, it does not need to be day 21 cos not everyone ovulates on Cd14. I ovulate on day 11 most cycles. so for me CD21 is when my progesterone starts to go down before the AF and it's around CD18-19 when my progesterone peaks. But it looks to me as if your doctor wanted to do all the tests all over again so she could judge for herself. maybe not a bad thing, she requested all the main ones so hopefully once she does cycle monitoring she will see what's going on after O and actually progesterone test is usually included in cycle monitoring.

afm, we are flying to Brno tonight!! will be my first time with Ryanair. I had my bloods and scan yesterday and all points towards ovulation even though it was only CD9. I was a bit afraid the doc would think it's too early and decides to wait but I am pleased she interpreted the resulted in the same way and asked me to trigger last night for egg collection tomorrow morning. interestingly, I have two decent follicles: dominant on the left over 18mm and a runner up on the right (with no stimulation!!), that explains my high estrogen it was above 1000 which is a lot for day 9 and I was panicking thinking I have a cyst but having a second follicle can explain high levels of estrogen.

I might be totally wrong here but I think I see a connection between sex drive and lining; I usually have high sex drive before O and my lining is closer to 13 mm by day 9. this cycle (same as last cycle) I have almost no sex drive and my lining was shockingly thin 9.5 mm, I mean it's probably sufficient for implantation but it's just so below what I usually see that it made me think it must be to do with sex drive?? I was trying to force myself to orgasm to bring more blood to that area but with no sex drive it's just pathetic! I am beginning to understand how hard it must have been for DH to bring himself to BD on demand.

anyway, I am keeping everything crossed but trying also not to get my hopes up as natural cycles are just unpredictable. If anything we will just have a fun weekend break in CR. I decided against endometacin, so hoping my eggy will stay put on its own until egg collection. We will stay in Brno until Monday even if things wont work out I want to try and have an appointment with them on Monday to discuss the next steps.

since I did not know if we are going up until the last minute booking flights and hotel cost us a lot more but it's still within reason.

I regret not taking EPO this cycle. I completely forgot about it, it could have been helpful in slightly delaying my O.