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[Euronova]

I think the average is fairly high and then if you are higher than that they do tests but i think they only do further test if you are higher than 1/100 or even higher than that. So definitely no worries!

The yoga works on the breathing too from what the woman said (and the flexibility lol)
My friend is doing me a copy of her hypnobirth CDs she said it really helped her relax, she was listening to them before bed in the evening and took them with her so she listened to it when there was a bit of a down time in the hospital.
I definitely want to manage my stress level as i believe it can make a huge difference!

 

[Euronova]

I am sure we will end up shortening it I like Lottie too

here you go (average for a 20yo is 1/1000) - "If your risk is lower than one in 1000 (equivalent to that of a 20 year old), it is considered an excellent result from the combined test. If you recieve a risk result higher than one in 100 you would be advised to discuss the option of a diagnostic test with your doctor, midwife or genetic counsellor. "

 

[SBB]

I learned some breathing techniques last time, they went straight out the window! I don't think I was remotely prepared so am going to make sure I am this time! Danny is not happy about home birth though so need to talk him round on that...

X x x

 

[babyloulou]

Morning girls

I'd probably try it next time Suz- although to be honest I couldn't have been calmer if I'd have tried!! I had my labour music, no screaming, did the stuff I'd learnt at pregnancy yoga- I was so relaxed and it made no difference to me!!

 

[SBB]

I know Lou it was very unlucky...

Will there be a next time then?

X x x

 

[SBB]

How is Ben? X x x

 

[Euronova]

wow Home birth!!
Well that is something I would definitely not feel comfortable doing... I am all for the whole medical stuff (my parents are doctors so i guess it helps)

 

[SBB]

I'd be happy to never step back into another hospital! I'd rather do it naturally if I can...

I was scared of a homebirth first time but this time I'm scared of a hospital birth

X x x

 

[babyloulou]

Same here Suz!! I would never have dreamed of having a home birth last time! If I did it again I would want a home birth (I'd rather have the birth centre again actually but it's being closed down this summer! ) Are there any birth centres near you? It was brill in there!

 

[SBB]

Oh no why are they closing it?

Yeh there is one, not at my hospital but at another one. I could opt to go there. Really want to be at home though *i think*! I may change my mind!

X x x

 

[babyloulou]

If you were in two minds it's a good compromise and much nicer than a hospital! It was a bit like being at home in the birthing room to be honest! There was settees, giant beanbags etc.., a TV on, tea and coffee etc.. and they left me and Ste to it most of the time but were right outside if we needed them.

The NHS have been trying to close it for years as they say it costs too much to run. There's been protests and petitions for years and it's been working and staving off them closing it down- but they've just lost the last appeal and it's closing in June

 

[SBB]

That's such a shame I thought they were trying to open more and more throughout the country...

I've made my tongue hurt eating fizzy sweets

X x x

 

[babyloulou]

Haribo sours???

I'm starting to feel really guilty about my dogs! I know Casey has been saying it for a while about how guilty she feels about her Chompy- but it's only now that Ben is a little older that it's getting really bad here too When you're pregnant so many people say "stop treating your dogs like babies because when the baby comes they will be out the picture"! I thought people were crazy and thought "that'll never happen here!" - but it's so hard having dogs around young babies They have both gone really miserable and they used to be such happy dogs

V- I bet you'll struggle with that part too cos I know how much you adore yours as well xx

 

[Euronova]

it is hard and i know it will be even harder once the baby is there. I am already doing a bit less with them but so far OH has been stepping in a lot.
I know it will be a big change but I could see how much they played with my nephew and nieces and eventually i hope the dogs will appreciate the new "humans" in the family.
My little niece is 3 yo and she was really fond of the dogs and it was so cute to see her on the settee with the puppy sleeping with her head on her lap.
It's going to be touch between 8-10 months and 2-3 yo though....cause the baby will be too small to control and the dogs too boisterous... but hopefully we will manage, I am hoping the dogs will mean that I am forced to go out a bit more with the baby in a carrier. I'd love to have a baby that is used to being outdoor a fair bit.

 

[babyloulou]

It really is hard V! It's not the dogs being a problem with Ben that's an issue- it's just that they are so ignored these days- Ben takes up every second! And it's little things like- Ben is clingy so if you try to pay the dogs any attention then he's there straight away- you can't sit with him and the dogs though as all babies want to do is pull their hair or poke them in the eyes! (or a finger straight up the nostril like he did to Piper the other day!! )

Then there's things like the fact that obviously dogs should have access to water all the time but we can't anymore without separating the dogs from us a lot (which they HATE!!) - because if the dog water is on the floor then Ben sticks his arms and head in it CONSTANTLY!!!

I used to think it was so cute how much they played together and how they always have a big play fight after every meal- but now it's infuriating!! If Ben is asleep it wakes him up- and if he's awake then it's too dangerous for them to fly around the house!

Another thing we've always took the dogs away with us a couple of times a year (South Wales, France, etc...) so they can have a holiday, swim in the sea, etc... now we can't take them It would be impossible to stay in a room with a baby and two dogs! I mean every time they shake themselves their collars would wake him, everytime their paws clicked across a floor, everytime Piper snored (which is like a drunken man's snore )

Even taking them for a walk with Ben in the sling is a nightmare!! I had this lovely vision of lovely walks every day with my boys and my new baby but it's not as nice as I thought!! When he was tiny it was hard because of the constant feeding and now its hard because he gets bored and just whinges and struggles the whole time! Plus it kills my back walking with him and both of them! And there's just not much time for it anymore- Ben gets up and it's breakfast (which can take a while), then a 2 hour ish nap (has to br in the car or buggy) then lunch time, then there's only a couple of hours before his tea, then bath, then bed- and the milk feeds are obviously fit around that too! I just hardly have any time for the dogs And they are such soppy dogs!!

I'm hoping it's going to start getting easier....

 

[babyloulou]

Ste actually takes them to work with him every day of the week too (which also makes me feel guilty!) just to get them out of the way and yet it's still hell just at weekends!! It took me from 4am to 6am to get Ben back to sleep this morning- he'd been asleep for 10 minutes when Ruudi barked at the postman and woke him up!!

 

[Euronova]

aww I know what you mean. especially the playing and barking. Mine play SO much and are SO loud! And unfortunately they are also really quite young and active
Holiday wise we have decided that we will rent next time we got o Wales, so we can have a room for us/baby to sleep that we can shut the dog out of.
Also it will mean being able to have the dogs stay a bit on their own in the house and we can go to more restaurants or just attractions.
I am lucky Oliver has very flexible hours and can even sometime takes the dogs running with clients but I know it will be hard for them (and for the cat!)
I do think it will get easier once you have a child you can reason with so really it's 2-3 years of hardship for the dogs.
In February we are trying to go for a week days away just Oliver and I as it will be one of the last time and we have a girl we know that has her own dog staying at the house. It;s a bit more expensive then kennels but she looks after them well and she takes them for long walks and let the cat sleep with her (so everyone has a great time)

 

[babyloulou]

Yeah we have someone stay here too if we go away rather than put them in kennels!

Having a baby in the house seems to be ageing Ruudi really fast! I'm worried he won't last to see the easy part again when Ben's older....

 

[babyloulou]

I think the thing that makes me feel most guilty is that my feelings for them HAVE changed as much as I hate to admit it! They were some of the most important things in my life- now I still love them but it is different! I wouldn't even want to take them on holiday anymore! It sounds horrible but they have become more sort of "loved pets" to me now and not my babies so much anymore! So many people told me it would happen but I never believed it....

 

[Euronova]

I find it hard to imagine but i know this might happen to us too...
I just hope we manage... I am planning on upping the training of the girls a lot over the spring. there are a few things i want them to master before the baby is born.