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[Euronova]

Is he skinny? If not there is nothing wrong with letting a dog not eat if he doesn't want to. As long as the dog is not loosing excessive amount of weight and is drinking and behaving normally, don't worry about it dogs are very clever and will know that if they wait something yummier will eventually come their way

 

[Euronova]

Lol! Love your comment Suz!!! Total pig and not even wanting to fight for his marriage and cut off ties with weasel b*tch! I think he just feels it's too soon for him to part with his money!

 

[SBB]

I think he just wants to keep his options open

I'll give him options... He can choose:
3 face kicks, 4 dead legs and a bitch slap... OR
5 face kicks and a kick in the bollocks

X x x

 

[lisaf]

lol, totally agree with you Suz!!!

No, he's not skinny, he's probably 1-2lbs 'overweight' if anything... I attribute that to my husband feeding him bigger portions and giving him the store-brand wet food... oh yeah, and he barely gets walks anymore since Daniel was born (we used to walk him in the evenings before Daniel's bedtime but now we don't have time, the whole evening is a rush rush rush to get everything done, feed Daniel etc... and we're both too lazy to walk on our own with him at night). He's a Bichon Frise.
Prior to the store-brand wet food he was actually really slender, but of course he's also getting 'older' now, 2.5 years old so not as much puppy energy to burn off his food.

 

[Euronova]

Bichom frise and other small dogs are very good at turning into picky eaters. You'd be shocked to see how little dry food my retrievers need to eat to keep their weight and they get walked everyday. Owners of small dog breed tend to feed them a bit too much because it seems so small in the bowl but their stomach is tiny. Literally a Bichon needs a minute amount of food and if they get anything like scraps/treats it can easily be enough for them to refuse kibble until more treats come along.
If a bit overweight definitely don't give in or worry

 

[lisaf]

well if he goes too long without eating he ends up puking bile... so thats what worries me

His kibble says to give 1 cup a day... we give him half a cup of kibble with a few spoonfuls of wet food on top... my husband tends to do a little more than I would give but he also disagrees with me about the 1-2lbs overweight.

 

[Euronova]

lol, my dogs vomit bile too if we wait too long between meals. It's hard unless you are both on the same page. If your ILs and DH feed him more or human food than you can't really control what is really happening.
The amount of food really depends on the brand, usually the guideline at the back of the food packet are quite large and exaggerated, then if you do not weight it or use a cup with a line it's very easy to overfeed.. then the dog does not build up an appetite and it's a vicious circle

 

[babyloulou]

Ruudi's the same Lisa. He went 5 days without eating when we first got him!! We still give them dry Burns food but Ruudi has a tablespoon of posh dog meat mixed in (this organic stuff with nothing but lean meat in) and poor piper just gets a teaspoon taster of it mixed in (he'd just eat the dry biscuits no problem!) - we've tried cutting down and down and then stopping but Ruudi just refuses to eat again. He will eat when starving after a few day like V says but will them starve for days again until he's desperate again- and so on. He ends up losing loads of weight and heaving up bile and then eventually blood before he gives in He's a very stubborn dog!!!

 

[babyloulou]

Oh I missed this last page before posting for some reason!! Ruudi is underweight V and goes very underweight if we withdraw the meat. He has huge food issues anyway- it took a year after we rescued him before he'd accept a treat from us and for the first 6 months he wouldn't eat if we were watching and only ate about a mouthful a day for months (even if it was something he loved in the bowl). I'm just glad he eats now and it's only a small spoon of good organic meat mixed in with his biscuits x

 

[SBB]

Miaow ��

X x x

 

[Euronova]

Oh I missed this last page before posting for some reason!! Ruudi is underweight V and goes very underweight if we withdraw the meat. He has huge food issues anyway- it took a year after we rescued him before he'd accept a treat from us and for the first 6 months he wouldn't eat if we were watching and only ate about a mouthful a day for months (even if it was something he loved in the bowl). I'm just glad he eats now and it's only a small spoon of good organic meat mixed in with his biscuits x

The case of an underweight dog is always different, or if there is an underlying behavioural or medical condition. But you will find a lot of dogs are just very clever It's only human to want to feed and give treats I do it all the time too, mine are constantly on a diet so opposite prob!
Mirabelle's brother has his owner wrapped around his little paw.. he will only eat fish and only if poached in stock etc... when he comes to stay with us, he eats the same as the girls no prob... drives his owner mad
Having 2 dogs also generally means that they get more worried about the other dog eating their dinner so it can help

 

[lisaf]

yeah... when my friends watched our dog for us, he went and ate her dog's food, lol... he ignored his own though.
We used to top his food with beneful, it looks kind of yummy with 'real' food in there, peas, carrots, meat etc... but he was just so picky... its like he gets bored with his food really easily.

I don't think my inlaws feed him other than Daniel's leftovers.
I know we should have trained him better... there is only one command he obeys well and that is an order to go into his crate... and thats because we did the right ratio of treats when doing it. I wish we could get him to stop barking at every noise or at least when we tell him to stop My friend who has well-trained dogs told me that you have to teach them to speak on command before you can teach them to be quiet... I cannot for the life of me get him to bark on command.

 

[Euronova]

yes she is right, you put the bark on command to then be able to teach the reverse order.
Mine haven't learned to bark on order, but i can stop them to bark, usually it is just by remaining calm and they know now as soon as they stop they either get a treat or a cuddle. If we shout at them, they get worse cause they think we are joining in.
It is so hard, our little one is nowhere as well trained as her mum is... we completely let it slip.... i wonder what will happen once we have babies!

 

[babyloulou]

Lisa- the bark and quiet command is one that piper could never get when a puppy either! We just couldn't get him to bark on command at all! He learnt everything else really well (but now chooses to ignore everything!) x

 

[babyloulou]

Miaow 🐱

X x x

Woof woof woof woof!! 

(you're out numbered- sorry!! )

 

[lisaf]

its so hard not to shout at him when he barks when Daniel is sleeping I think we've tried ignoring his barks and it didn't help any... but I don't think I ever thought of offering a treat when he calmed down/shut up

 

[Euronova]

Try and redirect the bark. I generally say thank you and grab a treat. When they come to me, I say quiet and give them the treat.
You can't stop a dog barking completely but if you can limit it to a couple of barks it's much better. Soon they will know, 2barks, you say thanks and then they come for their treats. After a while it becomes a routine. It might still wake the babies I guess... But to me at the mo it's barking that lasts too long that drives me mad.
When I practise this regularly I find their bark is not so furious and ear piercing. Almost like they are already thinking of shutting up to get their treats. X

 

[lisaf]

yeah, and we don't want him to stop barking completely... when someone enters our yard its good to be alerted and him being able to vocalize when he's upset will also help prevent any bites that could get him in trouble.

 

[babyloulou]

Piper used to do the quiet thing once I'd said good boy - then he'd wait for his treat! Since we've had Ben though he just ignores me and barks randomly whenever he feels like it!! (attention seeking!!!)

Ruudi on the other hand.... full on terrier! Barks and barks- loves the sound of his own voice and couldn't give a shit about treats or praise!!!

 

[lisaf]

well, at least Daniel isn't afraid of dogs barking, lol.... at daycare the other kid cries when the dogs bark and Daniel looks around excited trying to see where the doggies are