Cold dominos pizza?

[lhancock90]

I think people should take sensible precautions. Yes have takeaway just make sure it's from a restaurant with a good hygiene rating. Reheat pizza just make sure it's very hot so to kill of any bacteria. Etc.

 

[Larkspur]

I drank McDonald's milkshake, reheated pepperoni pizza and ate soft boiled eggs with my daughter... I'm back on the milk shakes and pizza but not craving eggs yet but meh. It's a guideline if it was that bad McDonald would make you sign a waiver every time you ordered something

No they wouldn't. People get sick all the time from food bought at the supermarket but you don't have to sign waivers there...!

I just don't get why people insist on saying "I ate blah blah blah and I was fine" like that has any meaningful statistical significance. Maybe you did and that's great but how are you going to feel if someone takes that to mean "It's safe to do" and ends up sick?

 

[Misscalais]

I've eaten pizza through all my pregnancies I love the stuff we have pizza Fridays in our house its the only take away my 4 year old will eat. We have left overs but I always re heat cause I don't like cold pizza given that I've had food poisoning from pizza before ( not while pregnant ) so id say heat it till steaming during pregnancy.
As for thick shakes, I worked at McDonalds for 5 years back when I was at school and studying. I know how they are cleaned and its really well. I've personally never known anyone that's gotten sick from having a thick shake or ice cream. I've had both while pregnant.

 

[lhancock90]

https://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/917.aspx?CategoryID=54#close

The official NHS list doesn't mention McDonalds.

 

[Hevalouaddict]

If you go to a theme park they have signs saying about pregnant women riding roller coasters wouldn't McDonald's have a small print saying drink milkshake at your own risk?

 

[Hazybaby84]

To be fair, I think that really it's down to common sense and the individual. Macdonalds itself wouldn't be on a list but it does come down to weather the ice cream/ milk or ingredients in a milkshake or mcflurry is using pasturised ingredients. For those who are unsure and want to be safe, your best bet is to phone the Macdonalds head office and ask directly if they use pasturised ingredients in those particular menu items. If you however don't feel that needs to be done and are happy to have it without question, then that is your choice. I think we all need to realise it all comes down to how comfortable we are with our own choices and realise that it is exactly that our own choice and opinion and that it down to others to decide if that is the advice they wish to follow or not.

Just my opinion.

 

[Larkspur]

It's not about pasteurization, all commercially sold dairy is pasteurized unless clearly labelled. It's about the storage and cleaning of the machine. As for the sign thing, I think that the reason there are signs on roller coasters is that even when operated in a fully compliant way, they still carry a risk. If a soft-serve machine is operated and cleaned in a legally compliant way, there should be no risk. The problem is that they are not always cleaned that well.

Personally, I am not sure I trust a teenager on minimum wage with fully appropriate cleanliness standards. Others may feel comfortable with that of course.

 

[rubysoho120]

I eat cold pizza a lot. I don't see the worry. Mine even has meat but no cheese. Ive had it almost once a week this whole pregnancy. The meat was cooked once then out in the fridge. How is that unsafe to eat? Unless you have a gross fridge lol jk

 

[Larkspur]

I eat cold pizza a lot. I don't see the worry. Mine even has meat but no cheese. Ive had it almost once a week this whole pregnancy. The meat was cooked once then out in the fridge. How is that unsafe to eat? Unless you have a gross fridge lol jk

The bacteria that can cause food poisoning are everywhere, you don't have to poke at a piece of food with a dirty finger to get them in there. In the time period when food is cooling/lukewarm, that's an ideal time for bugs to breed. Refrigeration can halt/slow that growth, but it doesn't kill the bugs.

So if you ate your pizza while the rest of it sat on the bench, it could well have bacteria in it. If you don't reheat it to kill the germs, you're at risk of food poisoning.

It's not terrifically common, but it does happen, and that's why the recommendation is there.

 

[rubysoho120]

I eat cold pizza a lot. I don't see the worry. Mine even has meat but no cheese. Ive had it almost once a week this whole pregnancy. The meat was cooked once then out in the fridge. How is that unsafe to eat? Unless you have a gross fridge lol jk

The bacteria that can cause food poisoning are everywhere, you don't have to poke at a piece of food with a dirty finger to get them in there. In the time period when food is cooling/lukewarm, that's an ideal time for bugs to breed. Refrigeration can halt/slow that growth, but it doesn't kill the bugs.

So if you ate your pizza while the rest of it sat on the bench, it could well have bacteria in it. If you don't reheat it to kill the germs, you're at risk of food poisoning.

It's not terrifically common, but it does happen, and that's why the recommendation is there.

Well I live in the usa and have taken and am certified in food safety as I was going to be a baker. You learn the horrors of how people mishandle food and how food borne illness and viruses food poisoning can happen. It is all about heating to appropriate temperature, cooling correctly and in the appropriate time frame. And proper storage of ingredients before you start. Plus proper handling while preparing ie hand washing no cross contamination. If the pizza was made properly from someone who was not infected and contagious and you eat it hot then put it in your fridge and eat it cold the next day is fine. There is bacteria on everything and not all bacteria is bad and makes people sick. You would need to leave it out for two hrs before danger zone. Usually when someone gets food poisoning is not from the food itself rather from an ill person not washing their hands. Once someone has the stomach bug the virus lives in their stool for weeks after they are sick. So if they don't wash up and touch your food you're at risk. When someone gets sick from a food borne illness the ingredient was contaminated prior to cooking...like bad water for growing veggies or cross contamination in a food plant. Cooking doesn't always kill those bacterias and they can be harmful. The other form of food poisoning is from the gasses bacteria give off while not in proper Refrigeration. There is no way to cook food with gasses that will make it safe to eat. But can be prevented by storing the ingredients properly.

So given the pizza was stored cooked and handled properly...cold pizza is good to eat. Same with cooked chicken (how else do people make chicken salad) and lots of other foods.

 

[Rachie004]

I'm so glad we're going out for Pizza Express tonight, this thread has made me crave pizza No delicious risotto for me though, it contains stilton

You can eat Stilton, as its a hard cheese. If you look online at the nhs website it states its fine.

Here's the link

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/foods-to-avoid-pregnant.aspx

OMG, THAT IS AWESOME I thought I had to avoid it?

Thank you Shame Pizza Express has changed their menu to a different type of risotto

 

[Hazybaby84]

I'm so glad we're going out for Pizza Express tonight, this thread has made me crave pizza No delicious risotto for me though, it contains stilton

You can eat Stilton, as its a hard cheese. If you look online at the nhs website it states its fine.

Here's the link

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/foods-to-avoid-pregnant.aspx

OMG, THAT IS AWESOME I thought I had to avoid it?

Thank you Shame Pizza Express has changed their menu to a different type of risotto

No problem! I got excited when I saw that too. Stilton stuffed mushrooms here I come lol. x

 

[Rachie004]

I'm so glad we're going out for Pizza Express tonight, this thread has made me crave pizza No delicious risotto for me though, it contains stilton

You can eat Stilton, as its a hard cheese. If you look online at the nhs website it states its fine.

Here's the link

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/foods-to-avoid-pregnant.aspx

OMG, THAT IS AWESOME I thought I had to avoid it?

Thank you Shame Pizza Express has changed their menu to a different type of risotto

No problem! I got excited when I saw that too. Stilton stuffed mushrooms here I come lol. x

I can eat all sorts of things that I didn't think I could according to that article, really thank you

I thought the issue with camembert and brie was due to the issue of pasturised/unpasturised milk but now I see it's due to the acidity content - will avoid those

 

[pinkpolkadot]

I had some cold pizza the other day, I wasn't aware there were any issues with it as long as it has been cooked correctly to begin with and then put in the fridge once cool. I would have thought in my case as it had meat on it was worse to reheat it as sometimes they use pre-cooked meat on pizzas so that would mean the meat being reheated twice.

Those that would not eat cold pizza do you avoid all cooked cold foods such as say a cold Ginsters sausage roll or pasty (not that I can stomach them anyway ) or a cold beef butty?

 

[OnyxSnowfall]

Lol. I love the high and mighties.

Ladies, pregnancy is hard enough as it is without adding additional stress and strain. It is wonderful to be informed and to have the freedom to make our own decisions based on such information. But no need to try and make someone feel guilty if they *gasp* venture on the "forbidden" list of nom noms. Think we all deserve respite with what we are going through and will be going through - having a mc d milkshake/flurry or some cold pizza is not a crime. Lol.

 

[Larkspur]

Lol. I love the high and mighties.

Ladies, pregnancy is hard enough as it is without adding additional stress and strain. It is wonderful to be informed and to have the freedom to make our own decisions based on such information. But no need to try and make someone feel guilty if they *gasp* venture on the "forbidden" list of nom noms. Think we all deserve respite with what we are going through and will be going through - having a mc d milkshake/flurry or some cold pizza is not a crime. Lol.

If that was directed at me, sweetie, I am not trying to make anyone feel guilty, just make sure people have accurate information. Never said a McFlurry was a crime? maybe check how high your own horse is?

 

[OnyxSnowfall]

If that was directed at me, sweetie, I am not trying to make anyone feel guilty, just make sure people have accurate information. Never said a McFlurry was a crime? maybe check how high your own horse is?

I wonder why you think I could have been directing that towards you?! --- pretty certain I started my primary reply to this thread with "Ladies", and the overall message was indeed a general one (as so many seemed to be worried --- and often times it's *after* they have done something without being aware it was on the "naughty" list --- I don't exactly appreciate silly scare "how could you take that risk?!" tactics when the reality is the probability of contracting something from cold pizza etc are extremely low). Risks are everywhere. Everywhere! There's always a remote chance of something terrible lurking around the corner. It's simply overwhelming to fret over trite and improbable ones, especially when there are bigger ones to contend with --- we all choose what benefits outweigh what risks, and within reason it's totally fine if people abide by different ideas regarding such.

With that stated --- looking back through the comments, you definitely were not *just* attempting to provide people with accurate information. You specifically demeaned the idea of women and their babies having survived a pregnancy food list no-no, and them using that to further "justify" the safety of such (perhaps it was more so towards the idea of them offering that as comfort to other women), for example:

I just don't get why people insist on saying "I ate blah blah blah and I was fine" like that has any meaningful statistical significance."

But it actually does factor in................

Regardless.

I think everyone should be informed and I already stated that it's a wonderful thing --- but that's all those other women are doing too... informing others of their experiences.

 

[Larkspur]

I wonder why you think I could have been directing that towards you?! --- pretty certain I started my primary reply to this thread with "Ladies", and the overall message was indeed a general one

Disingenuity isn't cute, if you have a problem with something I say, just say it to me.

I don't exactly appreciate silly scare "how could to take that risk?!" tactics when the reality is the probability of contracting something from cold pizza etc are extremely low). Risks are everywhere. Everywhere! There's always a remote chance of something terrible lurking around the corner. It's simply overwhelming to fret over trite and improbable ones, especially when there are bigger ones to contend with --- we all choose what benefits outweigh what risks, and within reason it's totally fine if people abide by different ideas regarding such.

I said earlier in the thread that everyone chooses the risks they are comfortable with. But it's obvious from many of these sort of threads that people either don't understand what carries risk, or why. Of course these risks are relatively low, but if doctors consider them important enough to make them part of standard recommendations, I can't see how that's trite, or 'scare tactics'.

With that stated --- looking back through the comments, you definitely were not *just* attempting to provide people with accurate information. You specifically demeaned the idea of women and their babies having survived a pregnancy food list no-no, and them using that to further "justify" the safety of such (perhaps it was more so towards the idea of them offering that as comfort to other women), for example:

I just don't get why people insist on saying "I ate blah blah blah and I was fine" like that has any meaningful statistical significance."

I apologise if people felt that was demeaning, I just see it as a misleading reassurance. If people read "I ate this and I was fine", it IS misleading, simply because you won't see anyone who, say, died of listeria poisoning posting the opposite, for obvious reasons.

If trying to make sure people have accurate risk information – which they can then, of course, choose to ignore or consider as they like – is high and mighty, so be it. I find it pretty weird to be accused of "trying to make other mothers' lives harder", given there would be absolutely no benefit whatsoever to anyone in doing that.

 

[Rachie004]

Man, I'd love some stilton right now

 

[yourstruly10]

I eat cold pizza, drink more cola then I should, have milkshakes, eat hot dogs, I eve eat med rare steak ect ect and two babies later and another on the way and we are all happy and healthy. I think people worry to much and need to realize most things within reason and maybe with some precautions are fine.

I read all the precautions and then make my own decisions after careful thought and talks with my doctor. I think there are way to many "rules" these days. Not quite sure how I survived when my mom was pregnant as I can guareentee she didn't follow all the rules. Some I get but many are just overboard.


All that really matters in the end is we all want a happy healthy pregnancy and baby.
Who cares how we get there or what the other person ate or did that you didn't.