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I don't feel any different and I am taking a lot of supplements. But nothing ever phased me. I can take any kind of birth control with no side effects, any kind of supplement. With both my daughters I never had morning sickness or felt pregnant until I was big and the baby was moving.
 
Briss and Juniper - thanks for the tip about grapefruit!! Sounds like it works well. I have 2 grapefruits at home right now that we got at the farmer's market, so I will be putting them to good use this month :winkwink:

Hope - that's interesting that grapefruit helps with the absorption of CoQ10. Good to know.

Suziq - yes, I am very glad to know now and to have an action plan! FX for you this month!

2have - yes, let's keep our fingers crossed that we both get Pg this summer!!! I will be keeping you in my thoughts for August!! BTW - moo dust :mamafy: :dust: :haha:
 
I know this is a very old thread but I wanted to know how everyone got on that was pregnant and ttc.. I have just ordered some N-Acetyl cysteine online but im not able to get DHEA here in the UK. I have just had my 4th chemical pregnancy and Im 41. I have previously had children but not carried a baby lately with my new partner. xx
 
I know this is a very old thread but I wanted to know how everyone got on that was pregnant and ttc.. I have just ordered some N-Acetyl cysteine online but im not able to get DHEA here in the UK. I have just had my 4th chemical pregnancy and Im 41. I have previously had children but not carried a baby lately with my new partner. xx
Hi Soanxious, I stopped taking supplements and went to a Reproductive Immunologist. It turns out I have more than a few issues that would cause 1. no implantation 2. chemicals and 3. miscarriages. I've had all of the above and the thing that finally set me off to what was going on was using a donor egg from a 26 year old lady and I still managed to miscarry 2 embryos. That just should NOT happen. So after extensive testing they know exactly what's going on and I've got to do some treatments before my next donor egg IVF and then go on some drugs when I do the IVF. I hope if you keep having chemicals you'll find a Reproductive Immunologist and get proper testing. I waited WAY too long and spent WAY too much money on IVF's and supplements before I understood the real problem. :dust:
 
2have4kids, so good to hear from you. I am sorry to read that your DE IVF ended in mc, heart-breaking but at least you are on the right track right now. so the main issue turned out not your eggs but implantation/immunology issues? Are they putting you on prednisolone?

I am still trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with me. DH is undergoing hormonal treatment and I can tell his testosterone is going up, we are yet to find out if this has had any effect on his count. In the meantime I have done some tests and my TSH is on the higher side of normal which may indicate under active thyroid which I know has been linked to infertility. Although last year my TSH was 2 which was OK.

re coq10, I read a very encouraging book on egg quality and apparently recent research indicates that most damage to chromosomal make of the egg happen within 2 months prior to O so apparently you can improve your egg quality and it's about energy so coq10 is the key ingredient. I have increased my dose to 600 coq10/300 ubiquonol. I know that coq10 is not the answer (I've been taking lower doses for years) but it does seem to help with egg quality so I am sticking with it.

I am also considerably reducing my sugar intake and cutting out sugar/chocolate/sweets/potatoes/pasta/white bread and replacing it with protein food
 
2have4kids thanks for getting in touch, I am so sorry to hear about all this that you have had to go through and such a shame your answers didn't happen sooner, but hopefully they have found the problem now and you can get things sorted and a nice SHBFP soon xxx

I am starting off on 140mg N-Acetyl cysteine for a week and up that to 280mg once I know I can tolerate it, and hope it works, I am also taking omega 3, prenatals, aspirin. x
 
2have4kids, so good to hear from you. I am sorry to read that your DE IVF ended in mc, heart-breaking but at least you are on the right track right now. so the main issue turned out not your eggs but implantation/immunology issues? Are they putting you on prednisolone?

I am still trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with me. DH is undergoing hormonal treatment and I can tell his testosterone is going up, we are yet to find out if this has had any effect on his count. In the meantime I have done some tests and my TSH is on the higher side of normal which may indicate under active thyroid which I know has been linked to infertility. Although last year my TSH was 2 which was OK.

re coq10, I read a very encouraging book on egg quality and apparently recent research indicates that most damage to chromosomal make of the egg happen within 2 months prior to O so apparently you can improve your egg quality and it's about energy so coq10 is the key ingredient. I have increased my dose to 600 coq10/300 ubiquonol. I know that coq10 is not the answer (I've been taking lower doses for years) but it does seem to help with egg quality so I am sticking with it.

I am also considerably reducing my sugar intake and cutting out sugar/chocolate/sweets/potatoes/pasta/white bread and replacing it with protein food
Hi Briss, I was overweight (BMI of 31) and had thyroid issues as well as insulin resistance. I lost the weight because I thought this might be the problem. My gf is a nurse and pointed out that hormones get locked up in fat. I didn't want to go into IVF's knowing I may not respond to the drugs because I was too fat! I also always dream that if I got fit and healthy my body would be able to do what I need it to-HA, I'll keep dreaming. Anyway at a BMI of 23 now, I no longer test low for thyroid/high insulin resistance, I'm off the synthroid, and my blood glucose test came back great as well. Sugar effects egg quality (cited on a diabetes website) and for optimum egg health they recommended cutting out the carbs. Carbs break down into sugar, your body pumps insulin to pack away the blood sugar as fat thereby lowering the blood sugar back to normal levels. Our bodies don't deal well with sugar, fats yes, sugar NO! IMO veg, healthy fats, & clean proteins are the best diet for fertility (and is why SO many PCOS women get their AF back once they cut out carbs).

I did 20mg prednisone along with aspirin with my first DE IVF, it didn't work. I have immune issues where I reject foreign materials (my immune system thinks it's cancer) and bunts it out. For this they treat me with 3 steps:
1. LIT treatment x 3 in Mexico & Athens. They spin my DH's blood cells, gather the white ones and reinject them all over my arms. So eg. if you're allergic to peanuts, they're going to feed you peanuts. We do 2 LIT treatments with Dr Quiroga in Mexico, three weeks apart and again in Athens, three weeks before the DE IVF.
2. Then I get IVIg treatment Right before transfer, which is white blood cells from thousands of people. It takes 3 hours to infuse the IV through my body but this is the most important treatment. And is very $$$ I go to a local hospital in Athens for this.
3. Then they also treat me with Humira. Much of Arthritis and Chrones seems related to infertility issues. I don't really know what Humira does but they said I'll feel like a million bucks on it (I have really bad osteoarthritis).

As well, I tested negative for clotting issues at my local fertility clinic but there's 4 tests, my clinic only tested for 2 major factors. I have one of the two minor factors which causes chemical pregnancies, m/c & late term losses. Even a minor clotting issue will prevent the embryo from implanting deeply. So you can wind up with repeat chemicals, full m/c's and late term abortions because the embryo doesn't get the connection and nutrition it needs. They're treating me with Clexane and aspirin for this. I took aspirin with my first de ivf.

Serum wants me to also take prednisone (10mg) this time. They said NOT to have sugar or salt 1 month before transfer date. Prednisone gets rid of inflammation you get from exercise and food (gluten & carbs cause HUGE amounts of inflammation even though we may not see it physically). I was tested by a naturopath and react horribly to gluten, eggs, pineapple, bananas and the night shade veggies ie broccolli/cauliflower (BOO I love cauliflower). Gluten, soy, and dairy are by far the most common irritants to humans, I don't eat much of these either anymore, only the greek 0% natural yoghurt (protein content HAS to be over the carb content otherwise it's likely the yoghurt is more of a junk sugary food).

2have4kids thanks for getting in touch, I am so sorry to hear about all this that you have had to go through and such a shame your answers didn't happen sooner, but hopefully they have found the problem now and you can get things sorted and a nice SHBFP soon xxx

I am starting off on 140mg N-Acetyl cysteine for a week and up that to 280mg once I know I can tolerate it, and hope it works, I am also taking omega 3, prenatals, aspirin. x

With Diminished Ovarian Reserve the 2 supplements that I was on when I did manage to get pregnant on my own were DHEA and CoQ10 800mg/day Ubiquinol form.

I also now only take methylfolate now instead of the folic acid that was in my PregVit prenatal. Like ubiquinone, your liver has to break folic acid down in order to convert it for use. So not only do you tax your liver with the cheaper forms of the supplements (and ask yourself how many supplements are we taxing the liver to metabolize in a day anyway) but you then also don't get the full pill worth of supplement which is a waste of $$.

There's also a massive population with undiagnosed MTHFR gene mutation where you can't even digest folic acid. When my doctors want me on 1000 mg folic acid, and I take a folic acid 1000mg pill, my liver probably metabolises 30% and absorbs less after conversion. I don't want to have a baby with neural defects or mess around anymore with potential m/c. I'd rather take methylfolate and be safe-it's already broken down, my liver & pancrease will stay healthy, I get to absorb most of the pill (depending on your diet-carbs & gluten coat your intestines). I recommend the same with CoQ10 - take the Ubiquinol form not ubiquinone. And anytime you can get a vitamin in liquid form it's the same concept, you'll absorb it better than a pill for (calcium is a great example) I also take D3 & B12 via liquid.

I've learned ALOT from the ladies on this forum, it's been really great. I totally owe so much to the wisdom of others here!
 
Thank you for the info, I am unable to take medicines as I can't swallow some liquids so for me the tablets are the best options. Also in the UK we have trouble getting certain things. How many mcg is the CoQ10?

I really hope that you manage to get your SHBFP soon xx
 
Thx, I usually get my stuff online as it's less expensive. If you do your homework you can usually find reliable sources.
https://www.dhea.com/home.php?cat=249

If you wind up pregnant you might want to have your iron and B levels checked regularly then if your limited with the quality of vitamins that you take. A lack of iron is directly linked to learning disabilities (iron is another vitamin really best absorbed through liquid-according to the WHO) and B vitamins they've just published new studies stating suspected links to autism. Folic Acid is a B vitamin.
 
I've been on a form of this for about 6yr? My aunt gave it to me because it was said to improve memory...and our family has a history of dementia ;) she wanted me on it early (she's my great aunt, 70). I'm 39 now and I conceived two of my girls while taking it. One at age 35 one age 37. I'm still taking it and just recently had a chemical pregnancy last cycle. My first MC. I really believe it's just age related....we have been fortunate up to now. I HAVE heard it's good for the eggs!!!
 
2have4kids, you are such an expert on insulin resistance! maybe you can help me? I've been struggling with sugar for years and was so sure I have some form of insulin resistance and that it was time to deal with this issue. basically I've been living off chocolate all my life. I eat maybe once a day (not big fan of food) and the rest is just chocolate. not healthy I know but it worked perfectly for me. I've always been slim. but I had really bad sugar cravings, basically cannot be without chocolate for more than a few hours. anyway, I decided I need to make some serious changes because I was sure I was heading for diabetes. I did some blood tests and results are really confusing cos they seem to be normal. is it possible that years and years of chocolate abuse did not lead to any insulin resistance? seems strange or maybe I did not do the right test or misinterpreted it? My Glycated Hb (HbA1c) was 35 mmol/mol (ref. range 24-53) and 5.4% (ref range 4.4-7.0). are these the right tests?

your three stage treatment sounds terribly serious! I've never heard of this before. I am so hoping it will work for you.

re clotting, i had Clexane with my IVF but ended up having a chemical. I thought you know if you have clotting issues by just observing your period? is this not sufficient? My AF is almost clots free after I had acupuncture and herbs. I assumed it was fine but maybe I need to do some bloods?

I was actually wondering about fruit yogurt. I cut out a lot of sugar but started eating more fruit yogurt. I need to cut it out as well, it's probably just sugar. tastes too good :)
 
Oh Briss you're too kind. I'm really NOT an expert, I just had hunches and a few test results that were a bit weird. You can't really tell via AF if you have clotting factors, even my fertility specialist cleared me of clotting factors and then the immunologist got in there with 2 more tests and bam, came up with levels outside the normal ranges. I have a nice 4 day AF with no clots, I use a 'diva cup' and can tell. I've seen my AF on chlomid and thought, there's NO way I'd be able to get pregnant on that stuff the way it clotted me up! But if you were on clexane then that should have helped. It could also be genetic issues or like me, you could have an overactive immune system bunting any foreign material out thinking it's cancer.

I got Dr Beer's Repro-Med clinic to do the testing. They faxed my local lab, the lab drew the bloods, sent some to Dr Beers clinic and did some tests here in canada. Then 3 weeks later we had an hour consultation with the Dr and he explained everything. It was money well spent.

Your chocolate thing, if you aren't showing signs of insulin resistance and you aren't overweight/have much fat on your body you should be fine. The darker the chocolate, the less sugar. Do you like tea? I use tea to help me with sugar cravings. I use green tea in the afternoon with some stevia. I love a good cinnamon/spice tea in the evenings, I have a feeling you and I have discussed tea before lol. There's alot of tea lovers on this forum. Green tea is meant to help your body deal with the sugar from meals. Spreads out the sugar spike or something like that. I have dark chocolate in the evening sometimes too. I think you'll be ok :bunny: did you have a delicious Easter then? How are you doing, still trying IVF or what's your plan going forward?
 
2have4kids, thanks! that's interesting re clotting, definitely something to think about.

my chemical is most likely just bad luck due to poor egg or more likely sperm cos DH was drinking a lot of beer during my cycle (am trying not to dwell on that too much cos it makes me so angry but we moved on and he is trying now)

that's so good that you were able to get some answers! Hoping this will make a difference on your next cycle and will get you a bfp. btw, have there been any further news on your eggs? is it at all possible to use your eggs as well as donors for your next cycle?

I am not overweight (used to be slim, now more like average) but I do have a lot of fat on my body mainly around my waist. but my concern was that if I have insulin resistance and my muscles do not deal with sugar, as far as I understand from my reading my ovaries do not have the same resistance mechanism as muscles and they have insulin receptors so if muscles refuse to take on sugar ovaries have to take it on themselves which damages them and reduces egg quality. it also means pre mature aging and could explain my high FSH. I started taking lots of myo inositol which is supposed to help with insulin resistance and sugar cravings but now I am wandering if I am doing the right thing. I was just so sure I must have some form of insulin resistance. very confusing.

Life without chocolate is hard cos I need to eat more to compensate. I am trying to eat more protein (also is said to be good for egg quality) and snack on nuts but it all leads to me putting on weight really fast (about 1-1.5 kg a week). maybe with time when I am used to little sugar I can reduce portion sizes. I did not have a delicious Easter cos I quit sugar 2 weeks ago just before Easter. I did have a piece of apple pie but that was it.

I love tea! that's my refuge, I drink tea all the time but obviously not black tea, I drink a variety of herbal teas and absolutely love green tea. most recently I am trying to replace green tea with mate tea which also has some caffeine in it but unlike green tea it's alkaline.

what's stevia? is it some sort of sugar substitute? I am trying to stay away from it all and would rather eat some dried fruit (they are obviously high on fruit sugar but they have excellent health properties as well) or good quality honey.

I've been recovering after 2 failed IVFs and my cycle is a bit off. I started getting pre AF spotting out of the blue. I found an acupuncture practitioner who specialises on high FSH and am giving Chinese herbs another go in the hope that we can get my FSH down and get the NHS funding for a stim IVF. our urologist thinks that with DH's sperm count we have much better chances with stim IVF rather than natural as we need to have a choice of embryos but unfortunately my high FSH is in the way. I am waiting for my initial appointment for IVF (in May) and in the meantime DH is on hormonal treatment. the hope is that we can start the stim cycle in 1-2 months by which time his SA is improved and my FSH is lowered. I meant I have a right to dream :)
 
Hi girls, I have an amateur question about the COQ10, I just bought a bottle today. Is this something that you take every day or does it have parameters, like stop taking after O, etc?
 
Hi girls, I have an amateur question about the COQ10, I just bought a bottle today. Is this something that you take every day or does it have parameters, like stop taking after O, etc?

Hi Wantaminime, I used to take it twice/day, every day throughout the cycle. 400mg in the morning & 400 mg at night Ubiquinol with food as recommended by my fertility specialist.

Briss, my eggs are done. I don't show that I ovulate anymore and when I did it was very weak. I didn't respond in the slightest to stims and they used the highest doses on me knowing that I likely wouldn't respond (my fsh was 14). In 2012 my antral follie count was 2, after supplements like CoQ10 and DHEA it went up to 8 and on this month they did 450mg of Gonal F and none of my eggs grew, not even .01mm they all stayed exactly the same after 1.5 weeks. I should have got in there years before I did if I wanted a decent response. My body has equipment ready to handle a pregnancy just no eggs left :nope:

Bengal Spice from Celestial Seasonings is my FAVOURITE tea ever :happydance:
 
Wantaminime, I also take it every day: I take 400 coq10 (until I finish it and then will move to 300 Ubiquinol daily) and 100 Ubiquinol. I spread it throughout the day and try to take it with meals.

2have4kids, I find it so hard to understand why this is happening to you when you are still so young and your FSH is actually OK (mine is much worse). I cannot believe this is all due poor egg reserve. Could it be that you have ovulation issue and maybe there is something alternative to kick start your ovulation? I am sorry if I am speaking out of turn I am just hoping that something can still be done but of course you know your body best.

Your tea sounds lovely! tbh, I just buy herbs separately like red clover, nettles, raspberry leave etc and mix them in my tea pot. at work I just drink nettles, green or mate tea bags.
 
2have4kids, I find it so hard to understand why this is happening to you when you are still so young and your FSH is actually OK (mine is much worse). I cannot believe this is all due poor egg reserve. Could it be that you have ovulation issue and maybe there is something alternative to kick start your ovulation? I am sorry if I am speaking out of turn I am just hoping that something can still be done but of course you know your body best.

Your tea sounds lovely! tbh, I just buy herbs separately like red clover, nettles, raspberry leave etc and mix them in my tea pot. at work I just drink nettles, green or mate tea bags.
I've always wanted to try nettles, I hear they have a bite? My mother had 4 miscarriages and 2 stillborns before she had us and she tried for 8 years starting from the age of 30. At 38, she finally conceived and then again 2 years later. I think some of these things are highly genetic. My girlfriend has the same stuff as me, low antral follies, low responder expectancy and she's in her 20's. Her mom never had issues but we don't know how things are passed down. The gene for male pattern baldness potentially comes from the mother according to studies. Diminished Ovarian Reserves could also be from dad's side too somehow. I really am excited for them to learn more about the human genome. Epigenetics is another area of study I try to read a lot about. There's much we can do to influence a growing baby in the womb (which is why I prefer donor eggs to adoption).
 
Hi, I have ordered N-Acetyl cysteine, when is the best time to start it? and do you stop taking it when you get a bfp? or continue it? xx
 
2have4kids, nettles look like ordinary tea, I mean the colour and the taste is less herbal than camomile so it was the easiest herb to get used to. red clover and raspberry are far more "herbal" but then I only drink them before O. Only fresh nettle leaves "bite". I usually buy dry leaves and they are like any other herb.

genetic is hard cos we know so little. all my relatives on both sides are fertile and have at least 2 children but obviously no one had children in their late 30s… I am so scared deep down but must carry on fighting
 

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