Doctor Appointments

[Sus09]

I have already written this on the Happy Holidays thread, so I am only copying and pasting for those who follwo this thread:

My doctor appointment was very strange, well more than doctor nurse appointment...
They first took lots of blood for tests (it was my 7dpo blood tests) and I asked what they were testing and they said

Progesterone
Oestrogen
HGC
FSH
LH

Anyway, for some reason I got a bit upset and called they doctor for a quick word with me. And summarising they looked at my charts and PMS symptoms and they said they are quite sure I have PCOS and I will have to start treatment.

I was a bit confused as it was the GP not the specialist who told me that, how can they tell I have PCOS just looking at a chart and irregular cycles? Don´t they need a load of tests to confirm that? So yeah, all together It got me a bit fed up with all this. It seems a waste of time when you speak to someone who does not care. Next time though I will ask to speak to the nice doctor that saw me the previous time.

BTW I slighly changed the title of the thread to Doctor Appointments, so it can become OUR thread, for those who are going throught tests at the moment.

 

[NorthStar]

Sus I don't know much about pcos, but it seems to me that you do ovulate every month, which I didn't think was the case with ladies with pcos?

Just seems like a pretty hasty diagnosis, definitely you should go back to the proper doctor when you get the results, sounds like a crappy appointment

 

[Natsby]

poor you, I agree with NS does seem a bit quick to decide. When can you see the othe doctor?
I´m off to the specialist now, so I´ll post later.

 

[Sus09]

Thanks girls. Dmom thinks the same. Results will be back in a week. I will phone the 1st doctor who saw me for him to tell me the results and then i will make an appointment with him to see what's next.
It was a bit crappy but hey, next will be better.

Nats good luck today, keep us updated!

 

[Natsby]

Well not great. OH has a only 5% fast swimmers in his advanced SA. The doctor wasn´t hopeful of us getting a good result with that. She is concerned that at my age I don´t have time to keep trying naturally and wants us to have IUI or IVF. I said IVF was out of the question due to the cost so she gave us the price for IUI. I also had an internal check up which showed i already Ov this month and that the lining looks good. My stupid Doctor at home didn´t ask for all the tests she needed so I didc´t have the results of my FSH, one of the most important and I´m missing it. SO we have to have those tests again!
I left and burst into tears which was a shock for OH as he hadn´t understood the conversation and didn´t fully get what the problem was. I had always believed deep down that we would get our bean naturally and this has been a shock.
What do you think ladies, is she just trying to sell me the IUI because it is their business? or is 5% fast swimmers really rule us out from a natural BFP?
Feeling down and OH is talking about giving it another 6 months but I don´t know if I can.

 

[NorthStar]

Oh Nats I'm sorry that the advanced SA is not so good

I think that you should take a little time to think about this and talk to your partner.

Doc is recommending IUI which I don't think is all that intrusive, and might be worth considering first. Probably that is so they can do the sperm wash thing and pick out the good swimmers and boost your chances.

 

[dachsundmom]

Nats...can you tell us the entire SA results, please? There's more to it than just that number.

 

[Natsby]

Nats...can you tell us the entire SA results, please? There's more to it than just that number.

I stupidly didn´t ask for a copy, I think I´ll call them today and see if they can email me one. I want to examine it more closely.

 

[dachsundmom]

Please do...until you see the entire report, you don't have the full picture.

 

[Jax41]

Nats I'm so sorry you've not had good news, but Dmom's right without knowing the whole test maybe you've not got the full picture

Sus - I posted this on 'Happy Holidays' but just in case you don't find it..... I can't believe that your Dr was so flippant in telling you that? Have you got any of the other symptoms, did he/she talk to you or ask you about that? I only ask because my Dr checked for that 1st thing and in fact my CD21 blood test showed a hormone present that relates to it (but it can also be there when you're stressed about needles and fortunately for me that was the case). I agree with NS and Dmom about the Oing x

 

[Sus09]

Nats, I agree with Dmom, Advances SA is more than a number. My ex was told the same, he had low number of fast swimmers.... we had a natural conception! So there is more to it.
Jax, Nats, I will reply propperly once i get home. I am on the train now, just wanted to see how the appointment went.

 

[keekeesaurus]

Sus again, I also replied on t'other thread but wanted to post on here as well. I know a lot of people don't like to kick up a fuss but really it does get you results so make sure you do see the nice doc and you get everything you need and not just brushed off with some weird diagnosis that's come from nowhere . GL and keep us posted!

Nats aw honey I'm sorry the results don't seem good but I agree with dmom, get the full results and see what the other numbers say and take it from there. It's a big crappy shock when you get a result that doesn't seem that good and as suggested here maybe take time to talk things through with your OH and have a think about IUI so they can get the gold medal swimmers where they ought to be .

 

[Natsby]

Here you go, Sus you might have to tanslate for me here.
Volume 4,00 (1,5 -6ml) aspect and viscosidad normal.
PH 7.70
Mobility.
(I´m translating here) Straight line fast 5%
slow10%
progress not straight 5%
not moving 80%
Semen per ml 158.000.000
total 632.000.000
Living 57%
normal shape 5%
So overall not good. OH has researched it and in France there is a paper saying men who ejaculated every day for seven days prior to the ov bd had better results. That goes against everything I read but if he wants to try I´ll give it a go. Other than that we are looking at IUI now.

 

[keekeesaurus]

Here you go, Sus you might have to tanslate for me here.
Volume 4,00 (1,5 -6ml) aspect and viscosidad normal.
PH 7.70
Mobility.
(I´m translating here) Straight line fast 5%
slow10%
progress not straight 5%
not moving 80%
Semen per ml 158.000.000
total 632.000.000
Living 57%
normal shape 5%
So overall not good. OH has researched it and in France there is a paper saying men who ejaculated every day for seven days prior to the ov bd had better results. That goes against everything I read but if he wants to try I´ll give it a go. Other than that we are looking at IUI now.

Nats, I don't know what all those numbers mean but .

 

[dachsundmom]

Nats, for DH's second SA, my doc recommended abstaining for 72 hours, as the new standard.

The 5% morphology (normal shape) isn't a test that is counted as much now in the US, so I am finding.

The 80% not moving, do you know if they are alive?

 

[Natsby]

57% are alive in total I don´t know whether 80% of them are not moving or if they coulnt the dead as not moving??

 

[dachsundmom]

I really am sorry.

OH's number of good stuff might be higher with less time in between releases, but I think the volume would go down considerably.

 

[Sus09]

l I am back home now, I have cooked dinner for my OH as he is out with the boys tonight and now I can finally sit and spend some time here!

Nats, on the way home I was thinking... When I was with my ex he had a SA and the results were not too good, he had low count and only few fast swimmers, the rest "lazy swimmers"...
Then he had a second one which the NHS lost.. .and a 3rd one and that one came a bit better, but they still told him he was on the low side. As I said we got a natural conception. Have they recommended for him to do another SA to compare results?

It sucks when you get results like that, I agree with the girls it is time to talk to your OH and see what you both do next. I am sure things will improve for you hun, at least you have some answers and there are possible solutions, and for now natural is not ruled out either

 

[Sus09]

Keekee

I was thinking about you this week hun, how are you? where have you been? or is it me being dopey again that i have missed you this week?

 

[NorthStar]

Nats be nice to yourself, have a glass of red

The doctor hasn't said it can't happen, just recommended IUI, right?

How did OH react, was he willing to go down the IUI path, or was he still too much in shock?