I feel so evil

angelstardust

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I have just made the decision to have a termination. My history is that I have two boys and in both pregnancies I developed pre ecclampsia. DS1 was induced at 35 weeks after my BP shot up at 33 weeks and DS2 was an emergency c section at 33 weeks when I had a placentral abruption (placenta peels away from the uterus wall). My BP was high all the way through that pregnancy with protein and sever swelling appearing at 31 weeks. I lost a huge amount of blood and needed transfusions, I developed HELLP ( I only found out about that today) and ecclmpsia. DS2 has cerbral palsy because of it. I was told that another child would be suicide, the doctor had no idea how I lived through it, but I did, and although I had some post traumatic stress, I got through it and moved on. I had a minera coil inserted as contraception and things had been fine for 3 and a half years.

Last week, on wednesday I took a pregnancy test as I was 2 weeks late, sickly, and basically felt pregnat. It was positive, actually 3 were positive. I went to my GP who sent me to the EPAS for a scan to find out if the coil was there or not as that was the imediate threat. It's a new maternity hospital so they didnt have my records and I had to wait a week till today to speak to the consultant about this suprise pregnancy.

During that week I started to hope and dream and stupid stupid me even did these silly gender charts that predicted a girl, and I started to look at cots and think about names, all the while knowing that the Consultant was going to say that it's a huge risk to continue this pregnancy. In my head I have even picked a name, Bethany. Even my DH started to drop random comments about what it's going to be like to have 3 kids in the house.

Then today, hearing the same consultant who delivered DS2 say that I was almost certain to get pre ecclampsia again, probably earlier and the risk of another abruption, again probably earlier, and that it was a year for my BP to go back to normal last time and what HELLP and abruptions and my clotting factors being so low (they are usually at 500, mine were at 6 at one point), do to yoru body. As well as explaining that babies usually don't survive (DS2 was very very lucky, most babies in his situation do not survive)

It was horrible. He could not say outright that he thinks its a bad idea, but he certainly stressed the point enough so that we could read between the lines. In his words, 'Its a case of weighing up your family's situation at the moment, where you are in your life, your health right now, your two children and your husband who would be left behind, and making a decision.' In a nut shell, stay pregnant and you will probably die.

So, we made the decision that we will be having a termination. And I cant help but look at pictures of 7 week babies, they have eyes and hands and feet and hearts and I'm going to kill one. All these people having mc's and I'm choosing to do this. I know its the right thing to do for my family but I hate it. How could my body go and loose a coil and get pregnant and give me all this heart ache? Why is it so bloody crap at having babies? It's not fair. I don't even know if this is the right forum or not, sorry if I have upset anyone.
 
Oh hun I'm really sorry - what an awful situation for you to be in, my MIL had to make the same decision years ago, the Dr basically said that if she was to continue the pregnancy then she should get her house in order. I'm so sorry that you're going through this. :hugs:
 
Oh hun im so very sorry ....what a terrible situation to be in.

I dont understand the medical side of what you've been through very well but i can see that you have nearly died once and that your last baby is a miracle, you have to be there for your sons and not risk your life....
.....im sorry im probably saying all the wrong things, you must be living in a nightmare at the mo.
Your in my thoughts hun xxxxx
 
Oh, sweetheart!

you've got to do what is right for you and your family. Having a termination is something a normal woman never does lightly even when its for lesser reasons than yours.

Please take good care of yourself and get lots of tlc,

I really feel for you, hun,

All the best, Omi xxx
 
Im so sorry your having to go through this and make such an awful decision that no woman should have to make. xx
 
I am brand new to this forum but this happened to be one of the first posts I read. I am truly sorry that you were forced to make such a difficult decision, but please, don't for a second feel that you are "evil." You are a strong, resilient woman who happened to find herself in a no-win situation, through no fault of your own. Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.
 
I will pm you.. We need to chat a bit... as i also lost my son from abrupture and i also had HELLP syndrome...
 
O.k so i can't PM you.....

This is all in my opinion.. I am not going to say this aimed at any person, any persons decisions or any one who has to make a life decision.....

I also had hig BP from 28weeks i went from normal one day to a blow up fish the next... I will get to the point though... I also had a placental ubrupture and my son was stillborn.. My heart had stopped twice during my c-section, and i was in a coma in ICU for 3days, to wake to finding out my son had died about 6hours prior to my c-section.

O.k so im TTC again as currently i have no children it was my first... My gyni told me i will be fine in my next pregnancies... as long as i stay healthy, excercise and stay away from any salts and red meats and cheeses as they are BP boosters... if i just live a healthy lifestyle during my pregnancy i will be able to carry to full term and deliver my baby....
I personally think in my opinion for you to maby go for a second opinion....

I understand that you are not sure if you yourself would make it thru to the end.. and i also noted that this was not a planned pregnancy... so in my opinion follow your heart....

https://www.babyandbump.com/trying-to-conceive/20398-my-story-r18-warning-sad.html This is my story.

And if i had the choice i would do it all over again... but atleast end up with a healthy baby in the end......
 
I agree with Jacky24 (and sorry for your loss Mrs).

I've never been through anything like this but what's the chances % wise again????? Get a second opion.

Things in life happen for a reason, ie coil and falling pregnant. Maybe, I'm still bitter for my misscarriage at the weekend and I know everyone has different opions etc.

If you rule out the 2nd opinion and they say the same as the first consultant don't go thougth with the pregnancy as you have two healthy kids.

It's a hard decision to make XXXXXXXXXXXX
 
I'm so sorry that you are in this situation. You have to consider all possibilities here, and looking after your own health has to be a major part of that, especially a you have 2 kids already.
It's a crappy decision to have to make, but no one thinks you are evil for making it, I think most of us would have done the same!
 
It's 100% that I will develope pre ecclampsia again. My BP is allready raised to over 140/95 and I'm only 7 weeks. This is when I have morning sickness which in thoery should bring BP down. 3 months ago my BP was a normal enough 120/81. This is me taking my BP at home when relaxed and on asprin. At the GP surgery its a bit higher (white coat hypertension).

The abruption he put at 50/50 and ecclampsia was also a high risk.

The baby would be born early (he guessed at between 28-31 weeks and that was optimistic) so the risk of the baby having problems was high. It would be a long time in hospital. And that was if I even carried that far, my body might simply say no.

My heart is not the best after having DS2 either (I was also tachicardic and several times was on the verge of heart attack), I have an irregular pulse (again I only found that out yesterday). I'm overweight and unfit too.

I knew in my heart of hearts that this would be the decision I would have to make. Doesn't mean to sya its an easy one to make, it is not. I want to keep this baby and try but I can't see the future. All I can see is what is here now. My two boys, the little one is disabled and needs me. The big one gets upset at PDSA adverts and he needs me too!

I can understand the part of me and other people who will say its a worth the risk, but I can also understand that sometimes we don't win our bets and the thought of my children being braught up without a Mummy is worse than what I have to do. I cried a lot yesterday and I will cry even more in the days to come.

Now I just want to get it over and done with as quick as possible because each day that passes is a day that my baby grows more and that hurts.
 
My heart is not the best after having DS2 either (I was also tachicardic and several times was on the verge of heart attack), I have an irregular pulse (again I only found that out yesterday). I'm overweight and unfit too.

O.k that was going to be my next question to you... I am also overweight but it is important to try and not gain any weight during pregnancy... I was also adviced that i could lose weight during pregnancy.....
Has the gyni or mw placed you on BP tablets????
As my best friend also now at 17weeks has high BP but since 5weeks already but she has had BP for many years she is 24 and weight of 136 pounds.... And she is due a healthy baby with a BP of 148/95....

All i can say is good luck...
Make some more posts on so i can PM you and we can chat... Im very interested in some more info from you....:hug:
 
I was on the highest dose of lobitalol first time, with no sucess and something beigins with v... tiny red pill's with DS2 and it didn't work either. They also give me quite bad side effectys, shaking, sleepyness, headaches nightmares and hallucinations (and my dreams right now are horrid enough).

Still trying to get a hold of my GP to discuss it, but the consultant said nothing positive at all.

I don't know, I swing from one end to the other with this.
 
Got my date for the termination. 26th Jan at 1.30pm.

I guess I have then to think through all my options.

according to my dates (LMP was 20th Nov, and I'm sure, it was the day before our aniversary), I am 7 weeks and 6 days. On the 26th I will be 9 weeks and 4 days. I don't know if I can do it.
 
angelstardust, sweetie go with what feels right deep within your heart although I do not like termination and would never do it myself I am not in your shoes . I would though get second, third and fourth opinions when it came to my child, so think about that. I wish I could help and say the right words but this is your journey and all we can do is be there for you no matter what you decide!
 
I just wanted to say that what you're going through has got to be one of the toughest things any woman would ever have to face, and I'm sorry.
I think you're doing the best thing that you can with what's been presented and I hope that you're able to find the answers you need in the time you have. My thoughts and prayers are with you. :hugs:
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I am so sorry, my heart breaks for you. What a heartbreaking situation. Thought sweety, you are never evil. Not for a second :hugs:
 
Im so sorry, i agree with orange lady, you need to take your health into consideration and your 2 kids. I cant see anyone thinking ur evil, I definatly dont. Whateva decison you make will be the right one for you. This might be the wrong thing to say but you obviously love this baby and if you do go for a termination and even though he wont be born i think he can still feel your love and some people dont feel that all through there lives so even if he doesnt make into this world he will go into the next knowing his mothers love.

I hope that came across the way i mean it.
 

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