Incompetent Cervix

Hi guys as you know im ttc and have ic well i had my af on the 24th of april and then said i wasnt preggers any way cd8,9 i had ewcm so did opk and was very + but theres no way i can ov that early cause im 30day cycle did hpt and was + but i had af lasted 6 days and had normal af clots is this due to my ic or am i losing my bean i have to wait a week doc said to test again if still + then i will have a early scan help xx
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mind if I hang out with you ladies? I had a cone biopsy about 5 years ago and Im currently (by my math) 5+4 after losing one last month at 5. I go for my dating scan tomorrow. :) Ive enjoyed reading your stories and taking in all the advice Ive seen.
 
Of course you can join us hun - this thread offers a wealth of advice and support for us IC ladies x
 
Selina - I'm really sorry I can't help as I really don't know. Sending you lots of luck and baby dust. I've not really used OPKs. I was about to go down that route after 9 months of trying with my angel but fortunately I fell pregnant. I was extremely fortunate to get pregnant first cycle with my LO this time.

ablacketer - Welcome to the thread! If I can help in any way, please let me know. I hope your scan went well yesterday. Let us know how you get on.

xx
 
Selina - I'm really sorry I can't help as I really don't know. Sending you lots of luck and baby dust. I've not really used OPKs. I was about to go down that route after 9 months of trying with my angel but fortunately I fell pregnant. I was extremely fortunate to get pregnant first cycle with my LO this time.

ablacketer - Welcome to the thread! If I can help in any way, please let me know. I hope your scan went well yesterday. Let us know how you get on.

xx


hi thanks yes this was my first real cycle ttc so lucky to concieve too i had scan yesterday which showed nothing still getting really strong + they say could have lost my bean or too early too see my hcg bloods are 181 check 2moz to see if they go up or down will update you all xxx
 
my scan went wonderfully, put me right where I said I am. (today 5+6) and we saw a heartbeat :) Not sure if Its luck or not but the tech forgot to measure my cervix so I get another scan in two weeks :) by appearance and feel, doc says it looks good but he is checking via scan anyway :)
 
Hi Ladies

I hope you don't mind me asking but i am currently worrying about this. I had a termination 10years ago at 15 weeks, which is quite late. My situation was very difficult at the time, hence the choice. I was given a tablet that helped dilate my cervix before the op and my midwife now knows about this. She said it's not a concern to her at all as they only consider it a risk for people that have had several terminations or things like cone biopsy so she will not send me for a cervical scan to check the length. I can get one done privately but it will be £180 and my DH said to listen to the midwife and just relax and enjoy the pregnancy. Just wondering if anyone on this thread had this problem after a termination or if it is after other surgeries etc?.

Sorry i know it's a very sensitive subject but i just can't stop worrying about it all x
 
my scan went wonderfully, put me right where I said I am. (today 5+6) and we saw a heartbeat :) Not sure if Its luck or not but the tech forgot to measure my cervix so I get another scan in two weeks :) by appearance and feel, doc says it looks good but he is checking via scan anyway :)

Hey hon,

So pleased that your scan went well. Really pleased that they are measuring your cervix so early - that is fab news!

xx
 
Hi Ladies

I hope you don't mind me asking but i am currently worrying about this. I had a termination 10years ago at 15 weeks, which is quite late. My situation was very difficult at the time, hence the choice. I was given a tablet that helped dilate my cervix before the op and my midwife now knows about this. She said it's not a concern to her at all as they only consider it a risk for people that have had several terminations or things like cone biopsy so she will not send me for a cervical scan to check the length. I can get one done privately but it will be £180 and my DH said to listen to the midwife and just relax and enjoy the pregnancy. Just wondering if anyone on this thread had this problem after a termination or if it is after other surgeries etc?.

Sorry i know it's a very sensitive subject but i just can't stop worrying about it all x

Big hugs honey :hugs:. I had the majority of my cervix removed.

I'm really sorry I can't help you as I have absolutely no idea. I would say that if your MW says its ok then I'm sure its fine. I know if you're anything like me then you're probably still going to worry. Can you not ask your consultant ob/gynae (if you have one)? Hopefully someone else can answer your question.

xx
 
Hi Carrie - I'm sure there are many women who have late terminations and go on to have healthy full-term pregnancies. You just had the one, and tho your cervix is forcebly opened for the precedure, this does not mean an automatic IC. I personally would get it checked, but then I am a natural worrier. I always think that if there is a way of preventing potential trouble. it's worth it.

Bear in mind, I didn't suffer with IC until I laboured with my huge full-term son, and tore my cervix. It takes alot to damage the cervix enough to make it significantly weak, but as I say, it is worth getting checked.

And please hun, don't feel you have to explain your very tough choice to anyone - we have ALL done things in life which aren't ideal, but at the time necessary. No woman makes the decision to terminate a pregnancy lightly, and at the time it was the right thing for you and your family. Keep us posted xxx
 
thanks girls.. i went to my gp today and she is going to speak to an ob/gyn that works for the royal ob/gyn hospital in London to see whether or not it's a concern. I feel much better now that she is at least speaking to the right people to get an answer for me. The midwives just tried to get me off the phone i think without even offering to find out from a consultant. Also google is terrible i need to stay away from it..

Thanks for your comments, it's helped to reassure me and i hope eveything goes well for you all.. x
 
Just to let you know, my cervix was open 2 cm from about 19 weeks onwards. Had internal scans once a month to keep an eye on it. Doc told me to lie down from 29 weeks...at 38 weeks he said I could start walking around again as much as possible. My gorgeous darling daughter arrived 9 days early, 3.6kg's!-perfect!!
I was on tenterhooks the wholeway through though, I guess I was really lucky!
When we get round to thinking about number 2, I may request the stitch as I don't particularly want to lie down for weeks and weeks again-it's really hard!!
 
Hi everyone,

Ive only just found this thread.

Here is a little bit of my history.

When I was pregnant with DD my cervix was 14mm at 23 weeks and declined throught the pregnancy but I still managed to get to 37+1 weeks :happydance:

Im now pregnant with DS and my cervix at 23 weeks was 24mm and at 29 weeks was 14mm and Im due to have my next cervix scan tomorro at 33 weeks. They wanted to give me a stich but I declined.

Are cervix's weaker the more pregnancies you have???
 
Hi girls. I haven't posted in here in awhile but I wanted to update. I had my beautiful baby girl on June 15th (2weeks and 1 day over due!!!) So I guess my cervix held up after all. It is possible. thanks for the support and the advice. You lady's are special!! Praying nothing my happy healthy babies for all of you!

Blessings!
 
Hi everyone,

Ive only just found this thread.

Here is a little bit of my history.

When I was pregnant with DD my cervix was 14mm at 23 weeks and declined throught the pregnancy but I still managed to get to 37+1 weeks :happydance:

Im now pregnant with DS and my cervix at 23 weeks was 24mm and at 29 weeks was 14mm and Im due to have my next cervix scan tomorro at 33 weeks. They wanted to give me a stich but I declined.

Are cervix's weaker the more pregnancies you have???

Hi Eve. Congrats you have made it this far without any major problem.

Your cervix is not necessarily any weaker with each pregnancy, but if it is generally incompetent, then it is at risk of shortening and opening with each pregnancy just the same. Though yours is a shorter cervix, it isn't truly incompetent because it never began to dialte, only shorten.

All cervixes incompetent or otherwise shorten as a pregnancy progresses - it all depends on how short it was to begin with. A normal cervix measures anything between 2.5cm and 5cm, with many women having a length of less than 30mm after 30wks.

Yours obviously shortens under the weight of a growing pregnancy, but stays closed. That's a good sign. SHorteing can be a warning sign for cervical changes however, which is why they're keeping an eye on you. Because you are now at 30wks, the baby cannot just "fall out" of an incompetent cervix anyway - unless of course you were to go into labour. You have as much chance of that happening as any other woman hun.

My cervix was stitched at 12wks in my twin pregnancy, and funnelled at 25wks. The stitch prevented any further changes however, and I carried them to 38wks - they weighed 9 and 7Ibs, so I'm proof that you can carry a huge pregnancy with incompetent cervix. Good luck hun xxx
 
Hi everyone,

Ive only just found this thread.

Here is a little bit of my history.

When I was pregnant with DD my cervix was 14mm at 23 weeks and declined throught the pregnancy but I still managed to get to 37+1 weeks :happydance:

Im now pregnant with DS and my cervix at 23 weeks was 24mm and at 29 weeks was 14mm and Im due to have my next cervix scan tomorro at 33 weeks. They wanted to give me a stich but I declined.

Are cervix's weaker the more pregnancies you have???

Hi Eve. Congrats you have made it this far without any major problem.

Your cervix is not necessarily any weaker with each pregnancy, but if it is generally incompetent, then it is at risk of shortening and opening with each pregnancy just the same. Though yours is a shorter cervix, it isn't truly incompetent because it never began to dialte, only shorten.

All cervixes incompetent or otherwise shorten as a pregnancy progresses - it all depends on how short it was to begin with. A normal cervix measures anything between 2.5cm and 5cm, with many women having a length of less than 30mm after 30wks.

Yours obviously shortens under the weight of a growing pregnancy, but stays closed. That's a good sign. SHorteing can be a warning sign for cervical changes however, which is why they're keeping an eye on you. Because you are now at 30wks, the baby cannot just "fall out" of an incompetent cervix anyway - unless of course you were to go into labour. You have as much chance of that happening as any other woman hun.

My cervix was stitched at 12wks in my twin pregnancy, and funnelled at 25wks. The stitch prevented any further changes however, and I carried them to 38wks - they weighed 9 and 7Ibs, so I'm proof that you can carry a huge pregnancy with incompetent cervix. Good luck hun xxx

Oh congratulations that is good news you went to 38 weeks in the end, when did they take the stitch out???

I went for my cervix scan at 33 weeks and it has remained at 14mm so I have been discharged - yay :happydance::happydance:
 
Stitch came out at 38wks when I had my scheduled c-section. If I'd been able to have a vaginal delivery, it would have been removed at 34wks with twins. In a singleton pregnancy they remove it at 37wks.

So pleased you've been discharged, and that your cervix held out. Good luck with the birth :hugs:
 
Oi, I never wanted to join a thread like this; nothing against you ladies, lol, but who ever wants to be in this position??

I'll try to make my history brief, and see what the general concensus is. I have been pregnant 7 times. Most ended in missed miscarriages between 5-13.5 weeks, with the majority happening around the 11-12 weeks mark. All except for the 5 week one in July 2009 were done with D&Cs. Altogether I have had to have 6, maybe 7 D&Cs. I had 2 with my 13.5 loss due to retained product, and one pointless one in April 2009 after my OB thought she saw something on my HSG scan; there was nothing there, so it was a pointless D&C.

I have had one live birth, Greg. Third pregnancy, lots of bleeding issues throughout, bedrest from about 6.5 weeks to 13 weeks. Reduced fetal movement at 19 weeks. I believe I had a NST at around 21 weeks. 20 weeks scan was good, a little low in the amniotic fluid level, heads down already. I believe, and this is where it gets sketchy, I believe I started having diarhea etc around 21 weeks, a thick yellowy discharge around 22-23 weeks which the hosp told me was a yeast infection, spotting 5 days after starting the yeast infection treatment, red spotting and the mucous plug came out 2 days later, and an internal scan showed my cervix was about 1.3cm. I was declared to be in immediate danger of delivering preterm, I was 24+2. I was flown out to a larger hospital, steroids yada yada, Greg was born at 25+0. He is great now. Never knew if I had PROM or not as for every 2 nurses that said I was leaking, there were 2 more that said I wasn't. No reason given for his preterm birth.

No real reason for any of the losses so far; they think I have a blood clotting issue, but only during and as a result of pregnancy.

They have NOT determined if I have IC, or preterm labour, or PROM. I am pregnant again, and due to my history, and to be as safe as possible, a purse string cerclage was placed at 14.5 weeks. Everything went fine. My cervix was not measured before this surgery. I am also on aspirin, fragmin injections, metformin, rinitidine, and Prometrium suppositories (now more for peace of mind more than anything). I rested for 3 days after cerclage and was told I could resume moderate activities afterwards, including a half hour walk daily if I felt fine.

20 week ultrasound, everything appeared fine, however, when the tech did my cervical length, he got quiet. He did say it appeared 'very' short (he was the one who diagnosed my short cervix with Greg). He decided on his own to do an internal scan. He said it appeared better at 3.1cms. My OB said she was fine with this, but did tell me to be wary of period like cramping, back aches, and leakage of fluid (since they don't know if a fluid leak triggered the cervical shortening with Greg, or if the shortening caused the leak).

She said at this time if at her next scan 2 weeks later, she thought it was shortening significantly, she would have me at a larger hospital on outpatient basis. If was 1.5 or less, she would have me flown out and admitted right away.

I saw her Wed at 21+4, as she was leaving for a 3 weeks vacation. External ultrasound showed a cervical lenght of 4.5!! She didn't believe this. Did an internal exam. Stiches are holding tight, however, she felt it was only HALF as long as the scan showed, so 2.25cm, and she said it felt like it was soft and thinning, whereas at my operation, she said the cervix was hard. She did an internal scan and she measured it at 3.5cms. So I don't know really how long it is. She did put me on strict at home bedrest. Told me to watch out for UTI like symptoms, cramps, back aches and leaking of fluid. She feels confident I will make it to 24+4 which is when she is back and sees me again.

Until the internal exam and ultrasound (she was in there a good 10 mins combined and was 'right' in there if you know what I mean), I felt GREAT!! But since... not so good. The day and the day after I had the exams, I was VERY crampy. Associated it with the exam causing some prolonged discomfort. Friday night, started getting a very snotty like discharge after peeing and while wiping. Almost like someonw with a cold blew their nose in my underwear. Mostly white, little bit of yellow, no smell. That has continued on for Saturday, and now here we are on Sunday night, and the discharge has continued, but now I am feeling slightly uncomfortable again in my lower abdomen.

Don't know if I should be concerned and get this checked out or not at the hospital. It is a long weekend here, so earliest I can get a Drs appt is Tuesday, otherwise it is the hospital ER for me. The baby is still moving around a bit. Seems to have died down the past 2 days, but she could have changed position again. When I say abdominal pain, it is under the ledge of my bump, and isn't period like or anything. I don't know if its BH, as I don't think I've ever had them. When I push lightly there, it is uncomfortable as well. It is not constant, and not excessively painful.

Just don't know whether this is continued irritation from the extensive internal exam, an infection of some sort, or continuing cervical changes...
 
In addition, at my internal scan on Wed she pressed down on the top of my uterus to see if there is funneling or beaking. There doesn't appear to be any with pressure as of yet.

Overall she said SHE was happy with things. I, however, am not so sure.

Her parting words to me were, 'if it were my pregnancy, I would do strict bedrest and only get up to go pee. That way if something happens, I wouldn't feel any remorse or blame wondering if I could have done more.'

She was not the OB who did the useless D&C last year. This OB is quite frankly, phenomenol.

I'm just worried now as it seems I am still changing against the stiches without feeling it, or having any signs. And now I am having this discomfort and discharge which has changed drastically from the milky leukorhea I was having up until Thursday.

Also, I had an internal done at 20+1, I think, in the ER cuz of pain, and the Dr there said my cervix was hard and closed. So in less than 2 weeks, it has softened and 'thinned??'
 
Do you have a midwife you could call to voice over your worries??? If I was in your position I would probably go up to ER
 

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