Luteal Phase Defect

[bluebird]

Hi bluebird and a huge welcome to you

Of course you can join. The more, the merrier but in all honesty, we all wish you didn't have to join this part of the forum
First i would like to say how sorry i am about your loss. that truly sucks It definitely sounds like you have a similar issue to what I had at one point. I used to ovulate very late in my cycle (on day 18 or 19) and them my AF would arrive on Cycle Day 26/27 in the form of a few days of spotting first. I did mention this to my GP and she absolutely flat out refused to believe that I was ovulating when I said I was. She told me that my test stick and Clear Blue Fertility Monitor are incorrect and I should throw them out I also had CD3 and CD21 tests done and they were absolutely fine which made it even more confusing.
Anyway, I now take B6 which has now extended my LP by a day and the spotting has gone. I have never been told that I have a weak ovulation because its so difficult trying to get the professionals to believe that it is actually a problem!
I think your issue may be Progesterone hon. You might be very low on that but do not panic. Very easily fixed and will explain why you had your miscarriage
Hope you get all the answers on the 11th April. Please let us know how you get on. I also have an appointment on that day so will update then.

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Hi!!
Another quick question- I had a CD 11 ultrasound done yesterday, it showed I had 3 follicles around 10mm on my right ovary and just a little follicle (6mm?) on the left. So I am definitley NOT going to O on day 13!
Have you ever had a CD 10/11/12 ultrasound? Just curious as I have nothing to compare with to know if my results are normal or not???

 

[xxshellsxx]

I usually O on CD13 and had a CD12 ultrasound 2 cycles ago with 1 follicle on the left ovary of 20mm - i think between 18-23 mm is considered the norm x

 

[stacergirl]

Shells-glad your appt went well! Glad you're getting the HSG done. The good news is if they are slightly blocked and the HSG clears it out then the chances of conceiving are higher the first couple months after that. The procedure will be fine, just remember to breathe. It will only take about 10 min max. I hope you get more answers and better good news!

Bluebird-yep 18mm is pretty normal for follies. Good luck!!

Got the dreaded call today that a good friend of mine is pregnant. Ruined by day. I'm super upset, just bc im in waiting mode and not moving along mode do I have nothing to keep my hopes up for my BFP right now. Then I log ob Facebook and another pregnant announcement. I'm just going to take today and be sad and feel sorry for myself and then get over it-if that's possible!!

 

[Spockette]

Hello my cherubs

Shells, really pleased they've booked you in for a HSG and also the Endo is nothing severe. At least things are moving in the right direction for you. Can I just say that I thought that if the HSG is clear they would put you on Clomid? Sometimes they prescribe this even if someone is ovulating just to ensure that the eggs mature and ripen to perfection! Your FSH is brilliant. My one came at 8.7! Keep us posted on your progress.

Bluebird, I've never had a scan on those days. In fact, I haven't had a scan at all If the follicles can be seen, then surely that means you will ovulate two or three days later?? Or am I chatting crap Did they not say anything at the scan?

Stacer
I know what you mean when you hear about others being pregnant. It really gets you down. I have my little girl but I still feel awful when I hear of someone being pregnant. I know you're having to wait and that's the worst but you're not wasting this time. You're still You never know what can happen. A low ovarian reserve doesn't mean you wont be able to conceive naturally. Just enjoy and see how it goes hon

As for me....waiting to ovulate........having ......The usual. Feel like its Groundhog Day.....

Xxxx

 

[xxshellsxx]

hey sprockette - i want clomid, but they won't give it to me I think once i've had this done i will ask to transferred to the the other bigger hospital in the main town - i've heard better things about their FS and maybe they can give me a second opinion... i might even ring them and ask advice (i rang them when i was initially told i couldn't go to THIS FS by my GP) they were really lovely and told me my GP was wrong... maybe they will say the same about my FS - i mean i haven't seen the same DR twice! I wonder if my FSH levels are still good for my age as i didn't ovulate regularly when i was younger... maybe they have been saving up lol x

 

[bluebird]

I usually O on CD13 and had a CD12 ultrasound 2 cycles ago with 1 follicle on the left ovary of 20mm - i think between 18-23 mm is considered the norm x

That makes sense.... so if I was in fact Oing on day 13 like my Dr. insisted I must be then we would have seen a much larger follicle, something in the 18-23mm range. And I had 3 that were around 10mm, so nothing even dominant yet....

I hope she believes me now about this LPD issue!!!

 

[xxshellsxx]

Are they taking you back in for another scan nearer when YOU think you Ovulate? x are you using opk's to pinpoint it?x

 

[bluebird]

Are they taking you back in for another scan nearer when YOU think you Ovulate? x are you using opk's to pinpoint it?x

No I don't have any other scans scheduled, just a day 21 test scheduled for next week. Which I assume will show that I am not Oing on day 13.... Just one more piece of evidence for the Dr. And yes I am using OPKs and charting to determine when I am actually Oing. Hopefully with all these tests my Dr will believe me, I know it's wierd but I swear I have a 6 day LP! It's like I am a lawyer gathering a bunch of evidence for the judge hahaha!

 

[Spockette]

Are they taking you back in for another scan nearer when YOU think you Ovulate? x are you using opk's to pinpoint it?x

No I don't have any other scans scheduled, just a day 21 test scheduled for next week. Which I assume will show that I am not Oing on day 13.... Just one more piece of evidence for the Dr. And yes I am using OPKs and charting to determine when I am actually Oing. Hopefully with all these tests my Dr will believe me, I know it's wierd but I swear I have a 6 day LP! It's like I am a lawyer gathering a bunch of evidence for the judge hahaha!

Bluebird, doctors reeeeeeaaaly do not have a clue. My doctor INSISTED that there was no way I could ovulate on Day 18/19. 'It is not physiologically possible'. Her words - Not mine!! I have an appointment next week with a FS and I will ensure they listen to what I have to say.

 

[bluebird]

Spockette- so true! Let us know how the appointment goes, I'm really curious to see what your FS says as you and I are so similar in our situation. I am meeting with my Dr. on Thursday when I get my day 21 test done, she was supposedly going to consult with an RE about my issue and have some feedback for me. So I will let you know what she says, we will get to the bottom of this!!
And yeah I would totally insist on getting the answers you need. Over the last couple months I've found that my Drs are much more responsive when I 'insist' that these problems are happening and they are in fact PROBLEMS.
What CD are you on, btw? I'm on 14

 

[xxshellsxx]

I THINK i have my HSG appointment come through for 25th June! It doesn't say that's what it is... but it's the only thing i'm expecting?? Those who have had it done was it done in the normal clinic (which is our maternity unit ultrasound block?) ??

 

[Spockette]

Spockette- so true! Let us know how the appointment goes, I'm really curious to see what your FS says as you and I are so similar in our situation. I am meeting with my Dr. on Thursday when I get my day 21 test done, she was supposedly going to consult with an RE about my issue and have some feedback for me. So I will let you know what she says, we will get to the bottom of this!!
And yeah I would totally insist on getting the answers you need. Over the last couple months I've found that my Drs are much more responsive when I 'insist' that these problems are happening and they are in fact PROBLEMS.
What CD are you on, btw? I'm on 14

I'm on CD 15 so our timing is pretty similar. I'm not doing OPKs or temping at all so I have no idea when I am likely to ovulate but in the past when I have been checking it has usually been on CD 18/19. I will definitely let you know what is said next week. To be honest, I think my 'keep calm' approach is really starting to wear thin. I am more than likely to blow my top if I don't get the answers I want. By answers I mean 'yes you do have an issue and we will do all we can to see it right'

Shells, I'm glad you got the appointment through for the HSG but I was under the assumption that the HSG has to be done between the days of when your period ends and ovulation to ensure you're not pregnant and you would actually have to call up and arrange it yourself as soon as your period ends. Don't quote me on this but this is what I have read other ladies do. I also assumed that all X-rays were done away from maternity but I think it depends on the clinic or hospital

Xxxx

 

[xxshellsxx]

thats what i thought to, but she just said i'm not to have unprotected sex the month i get the appointment

I think i'll have to call them at some point and see what's what... my FS are useless x

 

[xxshellsxx]

well AF arrived this morning - 9 day LP!! I've had it with my FS, i've rang the other hospital and left a message for a call back - i want a second opinion! x

 

[Spockette]

well AF arrived this morning - 9 day LP!! I've had it with my FS, i've rang the other hospital and left a message for a call back - i want a second opinion! x

I hate that

Hon, if you're not happy with your FS then definitely ask for a second opinion. I think most of them are pretty useless. Good luck and keep in touch

 

[xxshellsxx]

hey hun, i got my second opinion over the phone lol basically i'm going through with the HSG with current FS and then i'm transferring to the new one, they said my cycles are 'not typically normal' cycles... which says to me they at least understand that it's not right! lol They have said they will accept me, but it will take a month or 2 after my HSG to get all the info across x

 

[stacergirl]

Shells, I'm so glad you got your HSG scheduled and a second opinion. When I did my HSG they did it at a hospital in outpatient radiology. But if your facility is equipped to do it there then that's good. Also I called cd 1 to have it scheduled cd 5-10 I think. it's a simple procedure! You will do great.

Spock-I know what you mean about your keeping cal approach running thin! Hang in there! Hope this is your cycle!!

 

[Spockette]

Shells, that's really promising. At least the 2nd FS is taking notice of what you're saying. Fingers crossed something can be done. Just keep until your HSG. I honestly have a good feeling about you

Stacer, how you doing hon? I know it's a waiting game for you at the moment but hope you're doing ok with everything?
I'm hanging in there as we all are but I go through stages of emotions, I get AF and spend two days crying and being miserable. Then I pull myself together and feel optimistic about the next month. I try to forget that I am TTC and try very hard to just enjoy having fun. Then after ovulation I am on knicker watch and try to believe I am having certain symptoms. Then shows up. Game over
Its so draining........ But I know you girls completely understand

Bring on the

 

[stacergirl]

Thanks Spock, I'm doing ok. Got the 3rd preg announcement of the week, frustrating! I e never had a positive preg test in my life!! Argh!! I totally understand how you feel though! But honestly I havent been monitoring or anything. I was on bcp for 7 days this cycle so I don't even know if I've ovulated!! They're saying I still need cd3 blood but I feel like I've done that before. Hopefully when I get the results of my biopsy I can ask. I hate that everything is over the phone, don't you?? I want to just see my chart!! Lol

I'm also trying to enjoy not being preg and having kids, figure I should atleast try, but it's not always working!! Enjoy your weekend!!

 

[Spockette]

Hi my girlies

I know we're all in limbo at the moment. TTCing and waiting for appointments but I thought I would update you on my appointment today with the Fertility Team on the NHS.
Soooooo, I went to see the Fertility Nurse and was done from there in half an hour I'm kind of gutted as I thought I might be able to provide more info and get asked loooooooads of questions. Nada. I just had to have blood tests for HIV, Hep B, Hep C and swabs for Chlamidya and Gonorrhoea (lovely ) The only good thing is that I am booked in for a HSG and Ultrasound. But that could take ages. Not sure i can wait that long so may go private. Grrrrr..... It's the most frustrating thing in the world!! But you girls do already know that!

So now I'm waiting for my private consultation and Ultrasound on the 26th April so will definitely let you girls know how it goes. Sorry I couldn't report back with more info today. Thought I might have some fab info to share with you

Hope you ladies are cool?? Hope we're still ???

Xxx