Moms who could not breastfeed due to supply issues...

[kickass_MOM]

Also, rates of IGT are increasing because they believe one primary cause (there are MANY causes though!) is from dioxins (pollutants), genetically modified foods, and from pesticide/herbcide overuse in our plant foods. This bad use (especially in the US!), is just increasing, so rates of IGT will be too. GM foods have been proven to cause reproductive issues in animals. Making many completly infertile and killing lots. Its quite scary when you read about...and wouldn't ya know that BFing is a reproductive thing!
Also, dioxins effect the reproductive system and the endocrine system so thyroid problems, insulin resistance, PCOS, IGT, etc are increasing and causing this problem.


kickassmom- I think the latests in normally comes in is day 5, and usually thats only in the case of a c-section birth. A vaginal birth is usually before that (but not always). Its hard to say, for you, everyone is different, so there is always that possibility that you were the exception to the rule. But if you had high fluids in your system...that could be tough to say. Personally my milk never "came in" until day 5 even though i have had unmedicated, vaginal births with both. So this *could* also be a marker of IGT. but thats just somethig ive personally speculated. And when it did "come in" it wasn't much....you really can't base a supply problem off of pumping or hand expressing though. A baby is so much better at getting milk out than all of that. What you base it on is wet diapers, dirty diapers, and baby weight gain. Even women with super large supplies can have issues "warming up to the pump" or even hand expressing. thats not uncommon and certainly not a measure to say its IGT or not. Though obviously if you have IGT you wouldn't be getting much out, since there isn't loads to get out, iykwim.

Hmm.. Interesting.Mine was a pretty quick unmedicated vaginal birth with no complications.I forgot to mention, I had extremely flat nipples and LO couldn't latch even once during those 7 days.nipple shields (the classic ones) didn't help either,her suck was just not enough to draw the nipple out.Contact shields which I got much later were useful in the sense LO could latch and draw the nipple out but the supply was so bad, she used to suck for about 2 hrs at a time and lost weight in the bargain.I had no other option but to exclsvly pump and FF at the same time.My flat nipples are drawn out while pumping but go right back to being flat in a matter of seconds and every friggin book I read said breastfeeding is possible with flat nipples.only they forgot to mention how. In the end, it looks like a whole lot of things were wrong and I was ill prepared but it sucks big time to not have a definite answer.

 

[Guppy051708]

it does

 

[kickass_MOM]

I suffer from PCOS so my hormones are messed up. I got my insulin checked when we were ttc but it was normal. I also have flat nipples. I didn't leak during pregnancy. After giving birth Omar couldn't latch on & I didn't have any milk. I tried expressing, but it didn't work, I didn't get a single drop. He finally latched on at almost 3 weeks, but there was no milk, I tried for another 2 weeks, but there was no milk at all. I saw a bfing consultant, I took supliments to increase supply but nothing worked.

PCOS is such a blanket term ,it's difficult to say what is going on inside our bodies.I have never been clinically diagnosed with PCOS but I have most of the symptoms.My hormones were all within acceptable limits while TTc.Its during pregnancy, that something messed up.like I said, somewhere in my third trimester ,I got acanthosis Nigricans where parts of my body turned a few shades darker and post delivery,* poof * its gone! and yeah flatter than pancake nipples didn't help either

 

[kickass_MOM]

Maybe once- woke up and my sheets were wet in the general breast area- but the way i way leaking bodily fluids during the late stages of pregnancy it could have been sweat drool or snot! (sorry TMI LOL) QUOTE]

Kage

 

[ErinA]

has anyone ever spoken to you ladies about Insufficient Glandular Tissue (IGT) or Hypoplastic Breast or Breast Hypolplasia (all names for IGT)?
I finally found out thats why i could only make 4oz at my max with #1. I didn't have breast growth during pregnancy and i never experienced engorgement. My milk was next to non existent. I did everything i could and nothing worked. I am on baby #2 and i still have to give him 8oz per day of donor milk because im not producing enough this time either. I hardly had any breast change and never experienced engorgement. I never have to wear pads because my breast dont leak. I supplement with an at breast supplementer and he nurses at the same time while he gets donor milk. Ive done it ALL and my supply never increased or got to enough. It is a direct result of IGT and i believe my IGT was caused because of an underactive thyroid i had before puberty. I had supply issues since the colostrum with both babies. its not that i lost supply, its that i hardly ever had it in the first place.

I was diagnosed with Hypoplastic Breast yesterday. My son is 5 days old, and I just knew that breast feeding was going to work for me this time. (I wasn't able to breastfeed my older son without supplementing, but never knew why). When I took Jackson to the dr and discovered he'd lost over 10% of his original birth weight, I was shocked. Then the lactation consultant had me breastfeed him, and then reweighed him. After 15 min of feeding, he'd only taken in 8cc. She then examined my breasts and told me that I had Hypoplastic breast, which basically means that I dont have enough breast tissue. I sat their for a minute and listened to what she was saying and then realized I was sobbing. When I was breastfeeding my older child, and he became ill due to low milk supply, my friends and family (myself included) joked and said that my breasts were too small and that I was starving him. Realizing that this was somewhat true all along was heartbreaking and embarrassing. I had tried so hard this time to make breastfeeding work. I'd read every article, I'd bought supplements and a pump, I would let my new baby nurse for ridiculous amounts of time, thinking that maybe it was a problem with the transfer of the milk rather than the supply, and he needed a little more time. I've been supplementing for a day and a half now, and I break down and cry everytime I give him a bottle. I continue to pump and let him nurse, but its just not enough. I never thought I'd be this upset about not being a success when it came to breastfeeding, but this has just broken my heart.