Moving on over to this board

[mg80]

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[pinkfee]

Hi MrsG_1980

Sorry to hear how your feeling, it is hard but i'm not sure it gets any better, i've only recently moved over from the other forum as well, we've been trying for 21mths now and i got fed up of posts crying about not being pregnant after 3mths. I recently had a HSG and stupidly got all my hopes up thinking that i'd immediately get pregnant afterwards from it, that it would be my solution (as i'd heard about positive results from it) and my one had showed that the dye was flowing through both tubes, so i've been feeling very down this month as well.

Try not to take it out on your OH, as a man he's probably feeling powerless and they don't like feeling that way, try and do something just the two of you that makes you forget about the baby making for one day, otherwise it will ruin your life!

hope you feel less down soon and good luck with your further tests, let me know how you get on. x

 

[mg80]

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[pinkfee]

Your very welcome... Yes trying for our first and like you i'm also 31 and my husband's 35... for the first 9mths we were NTNP so technically its only been a year of actively ttc as i've got a feeling we weren't dtd at the right times in that period plus i fell down the stairs at home so there was definitely a time of not trying at all!! and its been 9mths since i've been charting my temps. Although it feels like its been forever thinking about it.

didn't realise it was your SIL, I thought it was your own sister... maybe just try to ignore her, you'll prob find that behind closed doors everything isn't that rosy either but she's just good at projecting the image of perfection!

What has also helped is looking through these forums and trying the different tips and suggestions each month, I tend to abandon them pretty straight away if they don't work (not sure thats the right approach) but it feels like your actively doing something.

i've got my next fertility appt at the end of Sept so i'm trying not to think about it too much until then... so far i'm failing spectacularly! but i try each day anyway!

well they say that the HSG enhanced fertility can last for 3mths so i haven't totally given up hope....and i think thats it, clinging on each cycle to some small piece of hope!

i find that this forum makes me feel better as you find more women who are a) in the same boat as you or b) who have been in that boat for far longer and they really give you the strength to carry on....

Good luck

x

 

[mg80]

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[pinkfee]

How crazy is that my fertility appt is on 22nd Sept as well, so yes i'll definitely let you know how i get on!

well i tried robitussin a while back but i kind of got fed up of taking it and i'm not sure taking it every day is particularly good for you. we use conceive plus lubricant which i think is supposed to be the same as Pre-Seed (as i need help with EWCM) but we only use it as a lubricant as i've heard Pre-Seed comes with applicators (?!) which conceive plus definitely doesn't. I found it a bit wet to begin with but we don't use masses and it just helps as sometimes there just isn't enough time in the day for enough foreplay! (sorry if that's too much information!! lol)

I might ditch the BBT soon, as although i can see the shift in temperature i'm getting bored with it and am wondering whether I should try OPKs instead, do you like them? and then i worry about them being totally environmentally unfriendly and should I stick with the thermometer!

i'm taking santagoen prenatal vits which has folic acid in it, but they're running out soon so i'm wondering if i should just take folic acid on its own as that is the only thing that the doctors seem concerned about.
I've also tried taking Soya from CD3 - 7 in various mgs to try and replicate Clomid and bring on a stronger ovulation, but only tried it for a month and then had the HSG last month and figured i'd wait for what the fertility doctors would say before I tried it again.
My friend sent me a list of what she and her husband were taking before they conceived and it only took them a few months, that probably means they had nothing wrong with them but i'll dig it out and forward it onto you. (my OH came back with abnormal sperm from one SA test so he's just had another one and we'll get the results of that back at the appt in Sept)

gotta run to get my train but i'll send you the list of vits that they were taking soon.

Really good to have someone to chat to too! x

 

[pinkfee]

Hey okay i found the list that my friend was on.

They both took
Horny Goats Weed - there is a his and hers version of these tablets
Zinc
Selenium
Vitamin E, C, B6

She took additionally
Folic Acid

And He took
L-Arginine and L-Carnitine (helps create healthy sperm, i think?! - i read up on them they are amino acids)

I've got my OH on the L-Arginine and L-Carnitine and horny Goats weed, i've not taken it HGW myself as its expensive so i'm waiting to find it on offer. I think its just supposed to help with so often. As we're on the his & hers prenatal vits i'm not taking anything else separately, but i'm wondering whether to invest in selenium as its supposed to be very good, but its also pricey.

He's been on the above for 3mths now which is apparently how long you need to take vits for before you see a difference so it'll be interesting to see whether they've had an effect or not in his latest SA.

x

 

[mg80]

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[fisher640]

So I guess it's time I "graduated" over to this board from the TTC board. There are lots of newbies on there now that are in their first month or two of trying and I feel like I could probably get better support and advice from this board instead. I know that lots of you ladies have been trying far longer than me so I hope you don't mind me joining this board.
Anyway I'm looking forward to having a safe place to vent or ask advice from women in the same boat. These boards help me to feel less alone.

Welcome! I too moved over here a while back because I felt I couldn't relate anymore to the women who just started TTC in the TTC forum. I used to also spend time in the TWW forum, but after a while I found it was easier to try to ignore 'symptoms' since they've never panned out to be anything.

I just had my HSG this cycle, so I'm ashamed to admit that I'm *really really really* hoping it helps. It was clear, his SA was clear so now I'm not sure what happens. My doctor left me a message asking if we wanted to pursue further testing or if we wanted to just keep trying for a while, and I haven't called her back cause I'm torn.

In reference to the other supplement questions, we sometimes use preseed (but not with the applicator, I don't think it's all it's cracked up to be since I seem to by drier closer to the outside anyway) and def don't fill the applicator up or you both with slip right out of bed it's way too much. So I just really use it now if we need a lube and O is close at hand.

I tried primrose oil for increase CM and it seemed to effect things, but I'm not sure if it was for the better or not. Made the CM closer to what the preseed is like as opposed to EWCM, but I've read EWCM is 'better' so I quite that too. You could try that for a while rather than the robitussin. You only really need to take it from the time AF is over until after you've O'd

I also tried the soy for a cycle but it made my cycle irregular for two cycles so I quit that.

I started tracking BBT in 2008 when I quit taking birth control pills in order to avoid pregnancy (HA!) and am now trying to quit BBT because it's a little addictive and I think it just fosters my obsessiveness and I don't really need it now to tell when O is coming anymore my CM is 'fairly' predictable.

 

[elle281]

Hi MrsG_1980

Sorry to hear how your feeling, it is hard but i'm not sure it gets any better, i've only recently moved over from the other forum as well, we've been trying for 21mths now and i got fed up of posts crying about not being pregnant after 3mths. I recently had a HSG and stupidly got all my hopes up thinking that i'd immediately get pregnant afterwards from it, that it would be my solution (as i'd heard about positive results from it) and my one had showed that the dye was flowing through both tubes, so i've been feeling very down this month as well.

As for the jealousy, i do get fed up of hearing about people who drop the minute they look at their husband but when the person is close to me I can't be angry at them for having a baby (two close friends have got pregnant and had their babies while i've been trying) because I wouldn't want them to not have a baby just because I'm having trouble. Have you spoken to your sister about it? She might not have a clue that her actions are having such an impact on you? People tend to be very self centred and that she's probably just excited about having another baby. Re: your wedding, that is a bit off but again she's probably not realising what her actions are making you feel like.
I'd suggest speaking to her and telling her how you feel.

What helps me is having my two sisters who have very young children (all under the age of 5) I think its very easy to fall into the trap of wanting babies and not thinking about the reality of being pregnant and having a small child. My oldest sister had a difficult pregnancy and an even more difficult birth, after 3 years she's still suffering complications now and has feelings like she hasn't bonded with her child over it, as her baby was the cause of the damage that has happened to her body. Then my middle sister has two children under the age of 5 and recently broke down in tears with me that she's finding it hard to juggle work, marriage, mortgage, bills and two children (4 1/2 and just over a year) and she's just so tired and feels she's not coping..... so don't get me wrong I still desperately want to have a baby but when I find myself feeling really low (let the tears out by the way) and then I think of all the positive things I can still do by not having children. I can go out whenever I want, I can buy myself things and go on nice holidays and generally just focus on me and my husband.

It won't stop you wanting a baby but it might just help with the low feelings. Plus I often think if we never have children, i'll be the fabulous aunt who still looks 30 while her sisters are old and haggard from never sleeping who can afford to swan off to the carribean whenever she feels like it!

Try not to take it out on your OH, as a man he's probably feeling powerless and they don't like feeling that way, try and do something just the two of you that makes you forget about the baby making for one day, otherwise it will ruin your life!

hope you feel less down soon and good luck with your further tests, let me know how you get on. x

Hiya, Im new to this site but have TTC for 3 years now with no such luck. i just wanted to say thank you for your post it helped me put life into perspective! hubby has gone away for the week with work but will definately be spending some quality time when he gets back and not focusing on the baby making for a while. hope your all well would be nice to talk to overs in the same boat. xx

 

[pinkfee]

Hi there!

Thanks for the info, much appreciated! I just checked all the things you listed against what is contained in Wellman Conception vits and all of those things are in the Wellman vits, yay! Makes it easier than taking a whole cocktail of tablets per day!

He's already on the Wellman vits but hasn't been taking them consistently I don't think. I'm hoping that now he's taking them properly and cutting back on his drinking we will see better results at his next SA in September. Not sure whether to give that Horny Goat Weed a try or not, I've tried a few herbal things now and none of them has helped apart from Evening Primrose Oil which is excellent for lots of EWCM.

Can't believe it takes 3 months to see a difference! That makes sense though. I think I will order him another box of the Wellman vits now.

In Holland & Barratt they have the Selenium tablets for £3.29 for 100 tabs, might be worth a go?

Thanks i'll have a look in holland & barratt, i'm a bit of a wuss when it comes to taking tablets as i'm useless at swallowing large tablets so i'll have to see if they're small enough! i might also have a look at evening primrose oil aswell.


Hi elle281 and fisher640, i think taking the soya may have affected when I ovulated last month, but as I had the HSG that month I couldn't tell whether that had effected it as well? I had blood21 test last month so i'm sure when i get the results of that in Sept that it'll tell me if i didn't ovulate that month.

Think i'm due to O over this weekend, so lets hope this theory on HSG making you more fertile over the next 3mths works out to be true!

hope your all having a good weekend. x

 

[a1b2c3]

Thanks for all your thoughts and feeling ladies. I'm glad I'm not alone. Been ttc for over a year. Starting all my tests with a consultant now (even though already done them with the doctors!). I should be having a Hysterosalpingogram in the next 10 days. Starting to get scared. Have any of you had it? Does it hurt?

 

[ashleyjean]

Mine hardly hurt at all. Just felt like AF cramps all of the sudden when they put the dye in. If you have AF cramps and know what that feels like, don't worry! I did take 3 Advil about an hour before. Good job writing out the whole word, BTW

 

[a1b2c3]

Ok thanks.

The only reason I was able to type it is because I had all the documentation sitting next to me! lol. Its says that 'it doesn't hurt, however you may feel some discomfort.' This too me translates as 'it's gonna hurt, but we can't say that.'.

But I do feel reassured that your's just felt like af cramps. I could cope with that.

 

[fisher640]

I just had mine 2 weeks ago. Yeah they didn't tell me to take anything but I was worried so I took 2 Aleve a couple hours before. It was def uncomfortable/moderately painful but it doesn't last very long so it's tolerable. I would say take whatever you usually take for bad period cramps and remember it won't last too long and you'll be fine. I was super nervous but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting.

I also had some cramping and pink spotting the rest of the day, both were mild. Good luck!

 

[mg80]

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[a1b2c3]

Thanks Mrs G.

I hope what your saying about the upped chances for 3 months is true.... my poor husband isn't going to know what's hit him! lol

I have to say though, slightly concerned as I didn't know a catheter was involved! Why is that needed? Isnt' a catheter for peeing? Can't I just pee beforehand? I'm sure that i'll be doing a lot of it before hand anyways!

I hope your 2nd month is good for you. Please keep me posted on how you get on.
xxx

 

[fisher640]

Thanks Mrs G.

I hope what your saying about the upped chances for 3 months is true.... my poor husband isn't going to know what's hit him! lol

I have to say though, slightly concerned as I didn't know a catheter was involved! Why is that needed? Isnt' a catheter for peeing? Can't I just pee beforehand? I'm sure that i'll be doing a lot of it before hand anyways!

I hope your 2nd month is good for you. Please keep me posted on how you get on.
xxx

They put the catheter in through your cervix and then inflate a balloon on the end (that's what caused all the cramping for me) then they inject the dye into the uterus. The catheter is to inject the dye and the balloon is so it doesn't all leak right back out the cervix and is forced up through the tubes.

 

[a1b2c3]

Oh ok. That makes a bit more sense! lol, I was starting to freak out a bit then!

Thanks. x

 

[wonderstars]

MrsG, did you bleed afterwards, at all? I'm certain at my appt next week they'll order an HSG and I'm wondering if it's worth going to work the rest of the day if I have it done in the morning.

I'm really not looking for an excuse to stay at home.....