natural delivery opposition!

[MonstHer]

I spoke to an employee in the hospital insurance office about picking a different hospital because of the pressure of epis, medicalisation and interventions, and she literally snorted laughter at me, and said "I'm sorry. (not really sorry at all, as she was still laughing/smirking at me) I was like that too with my first one. You WILL want it once you're in the mix of things."

SERIOUSLYYYYY
HOW ******** rude can you BE?!?!?!?!?!?

WHY am I FACED with such OPPOSITION for a natural BIRTH in a damn HOSPITAL?!?!?!?

Am I the only normal person?
Or am I the crazy one?

And right before that, I was voicing my concerns to my ob-gyn Nurse Practitioner about the interventions, and she shot it down. Nicely of course, but completely shot it down like there was no way not listening to them wasn't a good idea, not even in the hospital. I need to take the advice from the doctors no matter what. That's what they went to school for.

Yea... I'm going to do that when that stupid hospital has a 37% C-section rate...

What I'm going to have to do, is labor mostly at home and be on constant guard when I actually am there!

This was probably a slight rant.

I see this is just the start!!!! WTF!!!!
I thought we were past the 1950's and women are not regarded as idiots to just hand their children over to whoever to do WHATEVER, as long as they WENT TO SCHOOL. I thought we could make our own decisons...
Apparently not!!!

 

[kellyb]

Wow, I can't believe she said that. What a d-bag. Hold strong! I'm behind you 100%, and you're not crazy. Granted, I feel the same way very often, as I realize how in the minority natural birthers are. It's really ridiculous. It's funny, I've found myself so irritated by all the opinions of people who've had babies, and families of people who've had babies. It doesn't annoy me that they have opinions; rather, it annoys me that they are SO sure that the way it went for them is the way it will go for me! Ugh. This especially bugs me because the bulk of them just went along with the docs, no questions asked. It surprises me every time I hear it. Now, I'm just kind of biting my tongue, patiently waiting until I actually give birth, so that I can defend my choices, based on my own experience. I am looking forward to seeing how it all goes!!! (And disproving all those naysayers who believe natural birth is impossible)

 

[MonstHer]

Honestly Kelly B,
I would be more open to their ideas and recommendations if they gave me the reason WHY, and just didn't want me to be blindly led into it, and have the nerve to get irritated when I ask so many questions.
MY KID MY BODY... I have a right to KNOW!!!!
holy hell...
I see we are in for a ride once we get to the hospital!
I think a lot of it is justification as to why they had their birth the way they did.
"Well my doc said this, and THIS is better, and BLAR BLAR BLAR, if you don't do it the way I DID then you ARE WRONG!!"
This makes me want to fight for whats right!!!!!
I was intimidated, but now I'm just more stubborn and ANGRY over all of it!!!!
I am NOT some little puppet for control, and if they are sticking something in my arm in my daughter, they WILL tell me or they will pay!!!
Why has this happened?!!??!
How did this all come about that we are completely out of control when it comes to our own selves?!
Women are NOT stupid. We CAN make our own choices... WTFFFFFFFF
I am so disgruntled over this whole situation.
Almost every woman I know feels the same way after a hospital birth as well!

 

[chuck]

Because people are scared, too scared to try and do it normally themselves and scared to admit that they didn't manage to but wanted to, scared that you'll succeed where they didn't.

YOU CAN do it med free, believe that you can, your body is awesome and doesnt NEED to be drugged. If things go down the path that isn't ideal then consider meds but thats when you need them.

Stop telling people your plans so you dont have to listen to their crap.

 

[MonstHer]

Because people are scared, too scared to try and do it normally themselves and scared to admit that they didn't manage to but wanted to, scared that you'll succeed where they didn't.

YOU CAN do it med free, believe that you can, your body is awesome and doesnt NEED to be drugged. If things go down the path that isn't ideal then consider meds but thats when you need them.

Stop telling people your plans so you dont have to listen to their crap.

Wow, thank you. I reread your post a few times. It made me feel so much better. You are right.

 

[chuck]

Don't get me wrong pain meds and epis have their place - when needed if you've been labouring for days. needing interventions or have complications.

But you cant plan for that, but you can prepare for labour and birth in general, you can plan to use natural pain relieving techniques - the first being self belief and stop thinking it'll hurt, it'll be intense instead!

 

[MonstHer]

I'm not so scared of the pain as I am of the interventions.
What if the baby is breech?
because of the hospital, they'll do a C-section.
because of this, because of that, they'll do this and they'll do that.
over 40 weeks? booked for an induction.
(I have to sign a waiver, and go through a lot of bitching out sessions, but seriously? I thought 42 weeks was full term too)
not progressing fast enough? here's this nice medication to help you...
oh and you can't eat or drink because we MIGHT C-section you.
How's a that sort of confidence for you?
Not to mention you have to stay on the bed and have an IV!
have fun being IMMOBILE!
NOPE. I am not going in until the last second, until I am atleast 4-5 CM dilated.
I'm wondering if I can wait even longer.

 

[lynnikins]

can i come punch those ppl for you please lol I cant stand doctors who wont give me good evidence based reasons for their "opinions" going to school for years doesnt make their opionons more vaild than yours unless they can back them up with solid evidence based facts!

 

[MonstHer]

can i come punch those ppl for you please lol I cant stand doctors who wont give me good evidence based reasons for their "opinions" going to school for years doesnt make their opionons more vaild than yours unless they can back them up with solid evidence based facts!

Please DO punch!

 

[lynnikins]

i thank my mother for mu guts facing up to doctors caus as long as i can remember everytime we went to the doctor for anything she got a full explaination as to what was being done and why and got a second opinion when she wasnt happy so i grew up to do the same thing lol

 

[nov_mum]

I hate it when people tell you what you will want and what you need. I have had two babies and I wouldn't profess to tell any woman what she might experience.

 

[Guppy051708]

This is exactly why i am getting F out of the hospital this time...Insurance wont cover a homebirth but they will cover a birth with a certified midwife at a free standing birth center.

I HIGHLY recommend homebirth if you are low risk, and if you can't do that find a birth center.

If those are not an option, i would DEF change care providers. You have federal rights about doing so, even up until delivery or if post dated. So i say switch!

 

[tristansmum]

i hope it goes well for you. no need to go to hospital until you are completely ready to, my friend got there at 7cm and had baby on gas & air 2 hours later. xx

 

[fides]

WOW. so sorry you had to listen to that!! 37%?!?!!

You can do it naturally!!! I think your plan of laboring at home is wonderful - my doula said you have the greatest chance of a natural birth in a hospital if you basically show up pushing.

 

[lucy_lu10]

I'm sorry to hear you're having to fight against so much just to give birth! I mean geeze!! It's all so ridiculous; a c-section might be more convenient for the doctors/nurses but it's major surgery. You'd think they'd be advising against it. As for the meds/interventions, it sounds to me like the medical personnel are losing faith in women's birthing capabilities. There's a reason it's called a NATURAL birth.....it's the natural way to do things!!

That being said, each hospital sounds super different! I had my son in a hospital and not a single nurse or doctor even hinted at pain meds. I did end up taking some gas & air and I can't remember if that was my suggestion or not.....I remember liking the sound of it in my prenatal class! haha They were pushy on inducing though which is kind of disappointing. Just gotta steer clear until you're good and ready to go in I guess.

 

[cowboys angel]

It is totally possible! I had a very bad pregnancy, but always said I wanted to do it natural. My doctor warned me that my delivery could go very wrong and told me that if I wanted to do it natural to try, but to be open to medical interventions such as meds or epis, cuz it was more important that I get my baby alive than how she got here.

Well I did it natural, and without medical personnel , but I did it!

Good luck girly!

 

[amjon]

Is there a birth center near you? I am going to one not too far away. They are FAR less likely to push things on you.

 

[keyahopes]

Thank you so much for starting this thread! I picked my doctors and hospital based on the closest hospitals listed by my insurance provider.

A few weeks ago, I looked up the hospital's c section rates and they have a rate of 37%!! That means one in 3 women end up getting a c section there. WTF?? i was shocked to say the least, because as far as I know, only about 10 % or less of births are actually complicated enough to need a c-section.

I plan to ask my obgyn about the statistics, but I am sure she'll blow me away.

I do plan to take epidural, but I don't want to be pushed towards a c section just because im not progressing fast enough and the doc needs to be somewhere else and can't wait for me. This is my first baby, so i have no idea what to expect.

I keep telling my hubby, that when we are at the hospital, support me and make sure the doctors and nurses don't convince us for an unnecessary surgery. I know by then our only focus will be to have our baby in hand healthy, so we might just give in to their convincing.

 

[ciarhwyfar]

Maybe you should go to the hospital you want to and find out from them how to change your hospital of record? My hospital is all about Women's Health so it depends on you and your doctor and mine is not in mind to "do things her way". My last doctor didn't try and talk me into doing any meds either.

I don't know where you are, but go in with stuff in writing and bring someone with you who will help keep an eye on things and make sure you get what you want.

Oh, and I just dare a hospital to try and make me lay down for labor. Not going to happen.