Need some buddies 1dpo, its a waiting game!

i agree with hw mama, its better if you get it all out hun. My heart goes out to you hun, :hugs: were thinking of you through this difficult time. x
 
are most of you ladies with BFNs staying on this thread for the next cycle? i'm cd2 (temp dropped 0.5 this morning!).
side note, my DH bday is today. he went and saw his mom this wkd. i asked what she got him and he said, "she got all the siblings together and aunt and uncle (she is divorced so no dad) and they got a group gift for me" - wth? DH and i both know the lady doesnt like me but blatantly excluding me from group gift? not cool. luckily, he's on "my side" for this one - but it doesnt lessen the sting. what a b*. i suppose it doenst matter in the big picture, though; she cant give him what i can :winkwink: :haha:
 
that is not cool at all :nope: and so the saying goes, 'we can pick and choose whom we have for friends, but not our family! I'm lucky the dh parents are ok but there are a few in my family that i wish would just pi*$ off lol

Im defo gonna be here this cycle hun. i'm cd7 at the moment and testing on the 17th of Aug.
 
ps i think i'm losing my marbles. i cannot find my thermometer anywhere? It was on the dresser this morning and now poof, gone? think my dog might have ate it!
 
i think we are all slowing losing our marbles! i'll be here also but since i'm only 2cd, i'm probably testing around aug 21 or so.
 
HW, I agree-- your in-laws are being crappy. I'm lucky that my in-laws are generally great. Just every once in a while dad-in-law takes his jerk pills and does something awful. But we all forgive him because he's losing it. Poor guy!

I'll stick around this cycle! I'll probably be testing around Aug 12 or 13.
 
hi ladies. ttc questions for you:
what is SMEP?
is grapefruit and/or pineapple juice really worth it (are those the right juices?)? and when do i drink it?
whats the story on Preseed?
made a dr appt for september 18. i told the nurse on phone i wanted a blood draw at 7dpo for progesterone test. bringing my charts. hope the doctor put enough time in her schedule for me, ha! okkkkk August!
 
Hey sni its great that your gonna be here along for the ride as well hun :thumbup:

Hw are you ready, here goes:

The smep is the, 'sperm meets egg plan'. If you google it, it will come up with what your looking for. (now is a good time in your cycle to check it out). I would tell you on here but it would be LONG......

Pink Grapefruit juice is best. drink one - two cups a day leading upto O and once you O stop! It improves the consistency of cm. But i think mainly its because your increasing your fluid intake and if thats the case try increasing the amount of water you drink but don't go over the recommended amount as you could dilute the salt in your blood which can be very dangerous!

Pre-seed. Some women produce a poor amount of cm which is the fertile mucuos that heps the sperm swim up the cervix etc... to the egg. Preseed acts as your cm would providing a fertile invironment for the sperm to live in so they can get to that eggy better. (This is my first month trying it, so will let you know :)


Other things that improve cm are: evening primrose oil, and robutissin.

Hope all that helps hw :)

ps getting my bloods taken the 8th of august and NOT looking forward to them as i am petrified of needles. Oh and also i am having my smear done that day as well. How traumatic!!!!! :(
 
hello i thought i would put the smep on here for you girls anyway>........

Short Version:
"Try" every other night starting Day 8
Buy 10 ovulation predictor kit sticks
Begin ovulation testing on Day 10
When test is positive, "try" that night, plus two additional nights in a row
Skip one night, then do one last "try"
Take a home pregnancy test 15 days after your ovulation test was positive, if your period has not begun
If your ovulation test never goes positive, continue "trying" every other night until Day 35, then do a pregnancy test if your period has not begun.
Statistics coming in from women who write me show that about 40% of post-miscarriage women will get pregnant on the first try if they are faithful to the plan, about double the number of the normal population who are not on the plan. This assumes, of course, that you waited for a normal cycle to begin after your loss, and did not begin trying before having a period after a miscarriage. Many women do not ovulate in that first cycle.


Detailed Version:
On day 8 of your cycle, counting from the first day you bled, begin "trying" every other night. Begin taking Ovulation Predictor Kits (or continue with your Ovulation computer) on Day 10. Buy two five-packs so as not to scrimp on taking them and stop too early. To make sure your OPK is working well, take your test in the afternoon or after work and do not drink any liquids or go to the bathroom for at least four hours prior to testing. (Morning is not a good time for OPKs, which look for the LH surge, which usually happens during the day.) Read your OPK instructions carefully, as usually a faint line does not indicate a positive, you need a line that is darker than the test line. LH is produced throughout your cycle and will only predict ovulation when it has a big surge.
When your OPK turns positive, begin trying every night for three consecutive nights, skip the fourth night, and then once more. Then stop! The waiting begins.
Take a home pregnancy test 15 or 16 days after your OPK was positive if your period has not begun. Do not buy internet pregnancy tests or tests that claim to work before your period is expected. They are not well manufactured and are not reliable. They will only cause you more anxiety than you already feel in wanting to know. Please resist the urge to do a blood test at your doctor's office just to find out sooner unless you have a medical reason to know early. Fertilized eggs that do not grow are actually a terrible but normal occurrence as much as 75% of the time, and seeing a very low put positive blood test in the first 14 days can place you on a terrible emotional roller coaster. By the time a home pregnancy test is positive, your baby has safely implanted and your odds of miscarriage are down to a normal 10%.
Should your OPK never become positive, keep the every other day trying going until day 35. I recommend at that point taking a home pregnancy test, but even if it is negative, you might want to take a quantitative hCG blood test at your doctor's office. Remember that not every women will ovulate every month. I personally did not ovulate for two months following my first miscarriage.

As you are trying, make sure to "release" the sperm in your partner at least once during the gap between ovulation and new cycle Day 8 so that no more than 10 days elapse without new sperm production. Sperm is also a cause of genetic damage, not just eggs, so keep it fresh! If you are not successful the first month, it is not because your sperm did not get to your egg. 75% of eggs are lost within the first 14 days due to normal genetic damage or failure to fertilize. Just keep trying!

Here are a few facts that may surprise you:
Many books tell you that sperm can last for 5 days and the egg for 24 hours. While this is technically true on the very long end (and something to follow if you trying to NOT get pregnant), most sperm will only last about two hours if you do not have fertile-quality cervical mucus for it to swim in. The sperm will struggle to swim up to your uterus, use all its reserves, and not make it. The egg typically lives only about 12 hours, so it cannot wait for long. You can now see how important that cervical mucus is! You will never get pregnant with sperm living two hours and an egg only twelve. This information is really just to make you feel better if you've been trying a long time and all your infertility testing came back normal. If the Deanna-plan does not work and you are faithful to it for three months, take a dose of plain Robitussin cough syrup (or any cough medicine that says "expectorant" and NOT "antihistamine") each day (preferably a few hours prior to "trying") starting around Day 10 until the day after your ovulation predictor goes off. It should help make all the mucus in your body runnier, including that produced by your cervix. (Oh the gruesome details required in baby-making!) The sperm in the runnier mucus will live about two days, and will be up there and ready for the 12-hour life of the egg. A NOTE ABOUT CLOMID: Clomid causes cervical mucus to dry up in 25% of the women who take it. If you notice your mucus is not plentiful as it was before taking this drug, take the Robitussin and call your doctor to make sure your really need the Clomid. If you are ovulating on your own and do not have a documented luteal phase defect, you most likely do not need it.
"Trying" too often can actually do more harm than good. Do not try every night! You will get exhausted and sore, and your mucus--both for fertility and for lubrication--will dry up, and you will stop trying too early in the month or miss an important day. Every other day is absolutely sufficient, with three nights in a row during peak time sealing the deal.

Don't worry about stress! Regular old worries about getting pregnant, and if you will ever have children, are perfectly normal and do NOT affect your fertility. Ignore those people who tell you just to relax and stop thinking about it. This is not their problem! The only thing that could actually affect you is serious stress, like moving to a new house, losing your job, family deaths, and other things that make you physically ill or depressed. This can delay your ovulation, or make you not ovulate in a cycle, since you will produce an excess amount of the stress byproduct called prolactin. It will not affect you for long, and the next month you should come back and be normal again.


An early period is not an indication of an early miscarriage, even if you know you timed your trying perfectly. Usually it means that the egg was not fertilizable, and so progesterone was not adequately produced. This shortens your cycle. Sometimes eggs simply don't develop properly during the ovulation process. It is usually a one-month problem. If you are regularly seeing that fewer than 10 days are passing between ovulation and your period, however, it's time to be tested for a luteal phase defect. You can read more about that under hormone causes of miscarriage.

Good luck to everyone. Baby dust, baby dust, baby dust!
 
thanks! i may throw in some robitussin, although i dont really need it, and it sounds like i've been doing SMEP anyways. cd3, will start opks soon.
 
ps. i am in a RIDICULOUSLY bad mood today. due to travel, i'm not sleeping well, i'm lonely, i'm emotional, depressed/frustrated, OH is being non-understanding and argumentative, eating out, bored..... and it's the first 2ww (until ov). my life seriously cycles in 2 weeks, not 4. me=hate the world. grrrr....
 
ah hw i've had those days hun. its as if know one at all gets what your going through, or worse does'nt care! wish there was something i could do huni to cheer you up. I can only extend the hand of friendship and let you know that i have been where you are and completely understand how you feel. sending you lots of :hugs: your not alone huni.

i know its such a cliche but tomorrow is another day.
 
4 hour nap later - feeling much better! there are few things a nap wont help with. thanks laus!
 
I am so sorry HW! I know how you feel. Generally, Hubby tries to be understanding with all the meds I'm on to try and get preggers, but sometimes it's like he's had enough and can't find any patience for my rollercoaster-ness. Of course, it's usually when I'm at my worst and just need him to say, "I'm sorry. This is hard, but it will all be OK."

Men! :rolleyes:

I was feeling totally weird yesterday-- almost paranoid. I'm blaming the Prednisone yet again for all my woes!

Laus-- thanks for the info on smep! Sounds like I'm pretty much doing that, too, but it reminded me to not take Zyrtec during the baby-making window!
 
I am 4dpo? not sure, not charting. I think it is wishful thinking and symptoms shopping with me. We bd on Friday the 20th and swear i am having symptoms but pron my head :(
 
I am so sorry HW! I know how you feel. Generally, Hubby tries to be understanding with all the meds I'm on to try and get preggers, but sometimes it's like he's had enough and can't find any patience for my rollercoaster-ness. Of course, it's usually when I'm at my worst and just need him to say, "I'm sorry. This is hard, but it will all be OK."

Men! :rolleyes:

I was feeling totally weird yesterday-- almost paranoid. I'm blaming the Prednisone yet again for all my woes!

Laus-- thanks for the info on smep! Sounds like I'm pretty much doing that, too, but it reminded me to not take Zyrtec during the baby-making window!

No worries hun i think most ladies are, but it made me realise that doing three consecutive days in a row around O is important. I will tie my dh up to the bed and torture him for his :spermy: lol

my dh is lovely most times but when i have a meltdown (the time i need him most) he goes all philosophical on me and is like, 'this is not good for you, you need to let things happen in their own time' I'm like, 'oh just STFU and just be there for me will you, you know i don't need words of wisdom just a cuddle will do'. Men!

Hw i'm glad you had a nap and feel a bit better. Hope the travelling went well!
 
Hi Sloan :hi: welcome. How many cycles are you in hun, if you dont mind me asking? I feel like i have symptoms from the day i usually O. But so far no :bfp: its different for everyone hun.
 
morning everyone!
i used to say i would never chart my temp, i would never obsess, etc etc - now i can't wait to grab my thermometer in the AM and see what my graph looks like, ha! i'm just hoping i dont O until day 12 or later in my cycle, as it looks like i'll be traveling thru cd10. oh, whats that? i have to cut the work trip short becuase i'm ovulating? i can only imagine telling my male manager(s) {there are 3!} that i have to come home because of that! :haha: oh, that made me smile....
 
Hi Lauistiredttc!

This is actually my first round ttc! This was actually an oops moment for us. We were planning to start trying in October so in preparation i stopped taking the pill (July 1st)and started prenatals. My cycle is 29 days on the button with 4 day periods. According to the ovulation calculator I was fertile July 19-24th, we bd on Friday night July 20th? Could i be pregnant or am i just paranoid?
 
Hi Sloan! Coming off BC can make your cycle a little wonky, so it's possible you are preggers. I got pregnant (my one and only pregnancy!) when we were switching from one type of BC to another. I didn't even think it was possible because there was only a couple weeks in between, but lo and behold! (Unfortunately, I lost that one early on.)

It seems that most women don't have too many noticeable symptoms that early on, but some do! You never know until that BFP appears!! :) I'm crossing my fingers for you!
 

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