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[lizlovelust]

Okay so according to FF im 7DPO, but my OPK is super pos today! What the heck??

https://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/lizlovelust21/utf-8BSU1BRzA3NjUtMS5qcGc.jpg

 

[ashknowsbest]

Liz- all I can say is, you need to go to the doctor because that's not right oor you're pregnant because I read somewhere that getting a pos OPK could be pregnancy .... so I would test with a HPT and then if negative make a doctors appointment.

 

[lizlovelust]

And my chart is a little weird this cycle... Check it out?

 

[ashknowsbest]

I looked at your chart, you could have just ovulated too. Maybe FF was wrong and you just now ovulated, so have you been BDing?

 

[WantingABubba]

My temp went down this morning, plus I woke up early AGAIN (but managed to get back to sleep in time)

Not so fast!!! Could be a implantation dip...:drool:

You're the biggest stroker to my ego

Can I keep you?

Yes you may, consider me kept!! yay!!!

As for the ego stroking...well, your chart just doesn't look like last cycle at all. it looks very much so more promising than last cycle...Who knows, you may be wanting a boy, but I think it could be a girl if you get your bfp...

It does, it does

And , how did you know I wanted a boy?!?!?! I also have a feeling I'd have a girl, though

xxxxxx

Intuition...I am usually very intuitive (I am a Cancer). Boys are cool, but girls are more fun...Bows, ribbons, barettes,tutu's, ballet slippers...(sigh) I have a daughter and see is a definite girly girl...lol

OMFG, I'm a Cancer too!

And hmm, true, but I looove boys because they're usually so affectionate. I'm not cutting my boy's hair either, so he's gonna be super cute

 

[lizlovelust]

I looked at your chart, you could have just ovulated too. Maybe FF was wrong and you just now ovulated, so have you been BDing?

We BDed last night, its been a hecktick month moving and all do its been a lot less BDing this cycle.

 

[ashknowsbest]

I know how stressful and time consuming moving can be, I've been going through the same thing. If you BDed last night then I think you pretty much have it covered as much as you can. It's really annoying when a chart makes you think you already ovulated and then all of a sudden it makes you question it but I think you did what you could with the information you had. I would seriously go to the doctor because your charts are really erratic and they could help if you do have something wrong but for now I think you did what you could! Good luck!

 

[WantingABubba]

WantingABubba...I also click that little guy in the corner of your siggy...OMG!! I almost started crying, I couldn't finish watching it! It was just to heartbreaking...i have two boys circumcised they got the ring for theirs, but good grief I imagine the process is similar...
I didn't know that it was like that. To see him strapped down like that (looked like he was an inmate on deathrow and waiting for lethal injection). Then the talking during it bothered me, I kept thinking shut up and finish already, poor baby is in bawling!! He could barely breathe!! Darn progesterone made it worse when i watch the video!!!

yes, it's very sad. They didn't even use pain relief on that baby.

Unfortunately, all methods of circumcision are virtually the same. For a start, in the babies, the foreskin is attached to the head of the penis like a fingernail is on a finger.

They don't often use pain relief.

I don't think it's the progesterone, hun. It's normal that it'd upset you - it's heartbreaking.

I would recommend you look through the whole site and read the articles, even if your own boys are circed (but I hope you don't get it done for any future babies ). The more you know about circing, the more you'll be against it, I promise you.

ETA - The doctor admits not using anesthetic while he's cutting into that babies penis

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How cruel not to use pain relief!! my OB/GYN did for my last son (don't know about the first though). Never knew what it really was like up until today. I imagine it so different, they make it sound like some "simple" procedure (and when we hear simple we think painless, well I did at least). There is nothing simple about going through that, or maybe so if you are the one doing the freaking cutting!!!

Unfortunately, many times they don't allow it to kick in before they start operating. Also, the injection (if they even get that) hurts A LOT.

If you speak to adult men who've had circumcision done at an older age, they usually say it was one of the worst pain they've been in. So imagine what that's like for a baby who can't speak, who's strapped down, and isn't able to rationalise the pain they're in?

Many infants go into shock from the pain, and there's been studies showing it changes their brainwaves.

This is from the Wiki article on circumcision;

Pain;

According to the American Academy of Pediatrics' 1999 Circumcision Policy Statement, "There is considerable evidence that newborns who are circumcised without analgesia experience pain and physiologic stress."[20]

One of the supporting studies, Taddio 1997, found a correlation between circumcision and intensity of pain response during vaccination months later.[43]

While acknowledging that there may be other factors than circumcision to account for different levels of pain response, they stated that they did not find evidence of such. It therefore recommended to use pain relief for circumcision.[43]

Other medical associations also cite evidence that circumcision without anesthetic is painful.[44][45]

Stang, 1998, found 45% of physicians responding to a survey who circumcise used anaesthesia – most commonly a dorsal penile nerve block – for infant circumcisions.

The obstetricians in the sample used anaesthesia less often (25%) than the family practitioners (56%) or pediatricians (71%).[46] Howard et al. (1998) surveyed US medical doctor residency programs and directors, and found that 26% of the programs that taught the circumcision procedure "failed to provide instruction in anesthesia/analgesia for the procedure" and recommended that "residency training in neonatal circumcision should include instruction in pain relief techniques".[47]

A 2006 follow-up study revealed that the percentage of programs that taught circumcision and also taught administration of topical or local anesthetic had increased to 97%.[48]

However, the authors of the follow-up study also noted that only 84% of these programs used anesthetic "frequently or always" when the procedure was conducted.[48]

Glass, 1999, stated that Jewish ritual circumcision is so quick that "most mohelim do not routinely use any anaesthesia as they feel there is probably no need in the neonate." Glass continued, "However, there is no Talmudic objection and should the parents wish for local anaesthetic cream to be applied there is no reason why this cannot be done."

Glass also stated that for older children and adults, a penile block is used.[49] In 2001 the Swedish government passed a law requiring all boys undergoing a bris to be given anaesthetic administered by a medical professional.[50]

Comparisons of the dorsal penile nerve block and EMLA (lidocaine/prilocaine) topical cream methods of pain control have revealed that while both are safe, the dorsal nerve block controls pain more effectively than topical treatments.

Neither method eliminates pain completely.[51] The ring block may provide more effective pain control than either of these treatments.[52] The use of sucrose pacifiers and comfortable, padded chairs may also help.[52]


That is really hard reading for me. They think EMLA and sugar water will do anything for the pain of getting a sensitive part of your body cut off?

I must say, though, I find it exceptionally mature and commendable that you're able to listen and take things on board without getting defensive, being the parent of two circumcised boys. Unfortunately, with most parents who have circumcised their children, they REFUSE to listen, and get extremely defensive. It's very sad. It shows a strong person to listen, even when it's not what you want to hear

 

[WantingABubba]

Okay so according to FF im 7DPO, but my OPK is super pos today! What the heck??

https://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/lizlovelust21/utf-8BSU1BRzA3NjUtMS5qcGc.jpg

Maybe you've not ovulated yet? FF isn't sure about your O date.

Also, have you done a HPT yet?

 

[lizlovelust]

Okay so according to FF im 7DPO, but my OPK is super pos today! What the heck??

https://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/lizlovelust21/utf-8BSU1BRzA3NjUtMS5qcGc.jpg

Maybe you've not ovulated yet? FF isn't sure about your O date.

Also, have you done a HPT yet?

Ive never Oed this late before, but i guess it could happen, no i havent done an HPT yet...

 

[lizlovelust]

Well FF took my crosshairs away cause of the pos OPK...

 

[WantingABubba]

Okay so according to FF im 7DPO, but my OPK is super pos today! What the heck??

https://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/lizlovelust21/utf-8BSU1BRzA3NjUtMS5qcGc.jpg

Maybe you've not ovulated yet? FF isn't sure about your O date.

Also, have you done a HPT yet?

Ive never Oed this late before, but i guess it could happen, no i havent done an HPT yet...

Try one taking one, hun.

And did anything happen that could have delayed ovulation?

 

[lizlovelust]

Well we moved to a new place? But i dont think that would delay O? And FF just took my crosshairs away...

 

[ashknowsbest]

Liz - you should do a HPT.

 

[WantingABubba]

Well we moved to a new place? But i dont think that would delay O? And FF just took my crosshairs away...

Oh, defo it would!

 

[lizlovelust]

I think i might! I swear i already Oed, my breasts hurt like they always do after O!

 

[ashknowsbest]

test!

 

[Tallmom2b]

whew! You ladies have been busy!

Stinas- so sorry AF got you!
Fx for next cycle!

Pink- I didn't see any lines maybe you Od a little later than what ff is saying?

Liz- crazy chart! test jic.

 

[Stinas]

There goes another cycle! Fml!

Hot pink - I wish I saw a line, but I don't. Sorry

Liz - I think you are going to o now. Ff was wrong. And once again, go to the doc.

 

[ashknowsbest]

Stinas - lots of ! you can always come here and we can go have drinks and shop! Lol! Shopping always seems to make me feel better!