yeah, it was hell, very low down, felt like someone was stamping on the very bottom of my back/top part of my bum. I went in the pool for some of it on all fours, that did help to ease for a while, but then i had an epi at 5cm coz i knew if it got any worse i wouldnt be able to cope. Ethans labour was so diffrent, he was normal position, so i really hope you can get her to turn in time so you can see its not as bad x