^^Ditto. We've not used birth control but just temp'd and avoided my fertile window so far. A couple of oopsies over the last couple of years but no pregnancy. We decided in July to try but it was half hearted as by the time we'd discussed, I was about to ovulate so we only had one shot in July. Then Aug and Sept properly. If we conceive sometime in the next 3 cycles, there will be less than 4 years began ds and the new baby. I try not to dwell on that fact though. Really wanted a closer age gap.