Please, August, do not taunt- it's BFPs that we want!

[frsttimemama]

Why would it not be built up in FMU? Just curious.

Yay for such a big number jump!!

 

[NDTaber9211]

This is what I found on Fertility Friend.
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/Ovulation-Prediction-Kits--OPKs--.html

Follow the manufacturer's instructions about the time to take your OPK. First morning urine is usually not the best for OPKs since your LH surge usually begins in early morning when you are still sleeping and may not be apparent in your first morning urine. If you test in the early morning, you may miss your surge entirely since LH levels may already be reduced by the next morning. Late morning or early afternoon is usually best unless the instructions suggest otherwise.

 

[Disneybaby26]

Nichole- I think anything after noon is considered as cd1 being the next day

 

[NDTaber9211]

Ugh I'm confused! Normally a ton of you ladies are on here, today there is barely anyone!

When I go to the bathroom, SO sorry for the TMI, there is a ton the toilet and when I wipe. It seems like it is full force. I am not soaking through a pad yet though which is usually what determines if it's cd1. I think it might soak through in the next few hours though. It's 4pm now so maybe around 6. Should I just put tomorrow down as cd1? It having to take the clomid that is making me worry I am not getting the day right. What if I take clomid cd 6-10 cause I was off on determining cd 1. Will that screw up my getting pregnant from it? Blah I wish I could talk to my Doctor.

 

[HWPG]

Nichole, either day is fine - meaning, your dr can prescribe it to you starting literally any day, 1-5. Then you'd take it for five days. So, if you count today is day 1, and start taking it day five, you're good. If tomorrow is day 1, and you start taking it day four, you're fine. If tomorrow is day 1, and you start taking it on day five, it's fine. It's all fine. Esp because you are like me, we ovulate late, so a difference in one day is a small difference.

 

[TTCaWee1]

Nichole I would count today as cd 1. Sounds like its more than spotting.

 

[NDTaber9211]

Thanks girls. I wish this whole thing could be less confusing. My doctor said straight up cd 1 is when u need to use more then a panty liner. It seems like it is full flowing but just not reaching my pad for some reason. There are clots and everything.

 

[jury3]

Nichole-If it's red and you have to wear a pad/tampon at all...I would count that as full flow. For me, spotting usually isn't even enough to get on my underwear, it only shows when I wipe and is usually more brownish. For me with the red I get major cramps, so I always know it's go time. I always count whatever day I get full flow at CD1 unless it's really late. Personally, if I was getting full flow right now, I would count that as CD1 instead of waiting to count it tomorrow bc I would rather take the clomid a day early than a day late...that being said though, I don't think it makes a huge difference. So many doctors say to take it different days....3-7 and 5-9 are the most common, but I've heard 1-5 and even 6-10. I honestly would not worry about it too much.

As far as staying at your brother's for you trip...can you not get some sneaky bd in? Are you sleeping in the same room as other people? If that's the problem, you may just have to get creative. Go for a drive and park somewhere...it could be fun! I'm excited for you to start your clomid! You'l lbe right behind Sonia and myself I really hope it does great things for you!


mommyxofxone-Do you have those special clearblue digital opks where they either have a circle, a flashing smiley/circle, or a smiley? I think ones like that you are only supposed to do once a day. A lot of opk packages say to test first thing in the morning, but studies show that most women actually have a surge around 2pm...that is why I test at least 3 times a day. I think I've only gotten a smiley first thing in the morning once time. I usually get mine in the afternoon or evening. You can surge at anytime. After the surge, you could O anywhere from 18-36 hours later (approximately). If you only test once a day and you surge at 2pm, then by the time you get the positive in the morning (if you even do) say around 7am, then that's 17 hours and there's a good chance you could have already O'd or are about to O.
That was a really long explanation, but I hope that helps...lol

Looking at your chart it looks like you definitely could have O'd. If you're temps stay up I would say that you did. Either you missed the surge with the opk or I have heard that some women don't get positive opks.

I agree with Mirolee about the charting and opks. After ttc for 3 months with no success, I decided to get my hormones tested just in case. My progesterone came back low, so my gyno said that I wasn't Oing. However, I had almost a year's worth of charts to show her that showed conflicting evidence. I always had positive opks (which many women on PCOS get, but don't actually O) and I also had a shift in my temps every month that would indicate I did O. It didn't make a huge difference really, but in the end she said I probably just had a weak O (not a good egg released). If we don't get preggo and have to go to an RE, I definitely want my charts to show them exactly what's been going on so they can look for patterns and such.

Rachel-Yay for the great numbers!

Katrina-Boo for AF

 

[frsttimemama]

Thanks for explaining. I think I get it, more or less! I appreciate all of the help. It's all so confusing! Goodness..

 

[mommyxofxone]

First time mama, if you check out my charts, I tend to get a big drop right before ovulation. I'm not sure where you are in your cycle, but I wouldn't over analyze it for right now, your mouth could have been open, the room could be cold, etc. it's the pattern, not the numbers (exactly) that matter.
Mommy of one, I looked at your old graphs and you ovulated on cd16 (at least the ones that are posted). I would say, based on thermal shift and secondary signs, you probably ovulated. But you didn't miss it, as you bd at o-2 and o-3. You're SO still in the game!

Yes but old charts from right before having dd i don't post those i am only posting the fresh new ones as everything has changed :/ i O'd at cd21. so very confused. Last month was extremely short, as i usually can go anywhere from cd 16-21. it changes every month. :/

so confused because my test had said only take once a day, and between 10am-8pm due to something or other fmu is not good for it, and something else, so i did that. and now i'm worried i missed the damn surge.

There is a possibility that you missed it... sorry . The only test I know of that says to use FMU is the clearblue ones. The rest say FMU is the worst one to use. Most of the time the LH hormone needs time to build up and appear in your urine. Testing in early afternoon has been the best for me. I usually test with SMU, 1-2pm and then 6-7pm.

sorry hun i actually tested at 5pm because i knew the morning urine was bad. So i test at 5pm. And only the one time a day. I actually tested twice on wed, but the 5 pm and the 8 pm were exactly the same line so i didn't do it again the following days. But i could still be yet to o. i won't know really until the cycle is over the way my body works. Really sucks.

 

[Cowgirl07]

I test in morning usually not fmu but I would never manage to hit the same time if I did it in the afternoon.

AFM I am enjoying my glass of wine a lot. AF at least your good for something!

 

[mommyxofxone]

I test in morning usually not fmu but I would never manage to hit the same time if I did it in the afternoon.

AFM I am enjoying my glass of wine a lot. AF at least your good for something!

i test at 5 because dh is home so he can watch dd for a minute, so it's really worked out.

So. i went back to the old charts i have from this year, from when my af started to... 'regulate' itself. I didn't temp, but i wrote af down. I found a pattern. One cycle is 30 days, the following is 41 or 42 days. NExt is 30. NExt is 41 or 42 days. So if it's continuing, last cycle was 30. This one should be 41 or 42 days long. Pushing my O day (assuming my lp will stay at 13 days) to like August 14th. 21 is the 7th. So i would have to wait til cd 28 possibly if this is a longer cycle. SO could be why i havne't had any positive opks. However, if that's the case, i will NOT have enough opks to get me through the month. I bought 16, thinking ok, i will have enough for 2 cycles and then i can order more when i need more. Didn't look at patterns of anything before. So now i don't know what to do. I guess i'll continue to take them until i run out. Feeling bummed about my discovery. Wish i had looked before this. could've waited til next cycle. but if it stays like this too, on cycle 16, 17, and 18 next month we'll bd and use soft cups. hopefully i won't need to go that far.

 

[Cowgirl07]

I test in morning usually not fmu but I would never manage to hit the same time if I did it in the afternoon.

AFM I am enjoying my glass of wine a lot. AF at least your good for something!

i test at 5 because dh is home so he can watch dd for a minute, so it's really worked out.

So. i went back to the old charts i have from this year, from when my af started to... 'regulate' itself. I didn't temp, but i wrote af down. I found a pattern. One cycle is 30 days, the following is 41 or 42 days. NExt is 30. NExt is 41 or 42 days. So if it's continuing, last cycle was 30. This one should be 41 or 42 days long. Pushing my O day (assuming my lp will stay at 13 days) to like August 14th. 21 is the 7th. So i would have to wait til cd 28 possibly if this is a longer cycle. SO could be why i havne't had any positive opks. However, if that's the case, i will NOT have enough opks to get me through the month. I bought 16, thinking ok, i will have enough for 2 cycles and then i can order more when i need more. Didn't look at patterns of anything before. So now i don't know what to do. I guess i'll continue to take them until i run out. Feeling bummed about my discovery. Wish i had looked before this. could've waited til next cycle. but if it stays like this too, on cycle 16, 17, and 18 next month we'll bd and use soft cups. hopefully i won't need to go that far.

Ic that stinks my cycles are usually 28 then 30 and back and forth. I still have hope for you this cycle! Good luck!

 

[Disneybaby26]

Sorry about AF, Katrina!

 

[pdxmom]

Nichole...i agree with Julie if u need to put on a tampon then cd1...i thik if ur seeing clots and red red blood then its cd1 too...Also agree with Mirolee tht dont dtress about the day u take lomid bcos it no fixed rule...i too have stressed abt this alot and hae realised tht it doesnt really matter...save yourself tht headache hun...

Katrina sorry af got u....enjoy your drink

 

[ItthyBThpider]

Hello, my name is Stephanie, but I usually just go by Itthy. I'm 28 and DH is 29. We've been ttc for 27 months. I don't know how many cycles, but my cycles are really irregular. I had one that was 86 days long and the doc finally gave me something.

I have PCOS, or at least anovulatory cycles and all the symptoms. I did have labs done, but 18 months ago all they did was lh, fsh and insulin and thyroid, which showed my lh:fsh ratio was high and insulin was high. Then I had labs a month ago that was every otherhormone except lh and fsh, and they were normal except for insulin and glucose. So my fs said it was due to my weight loss and that if I have underlying pcos then it's kind of in remission? Something like that. I only started seeing a fs a month ago, so idk. I also have a luteal phase defect that is 8-13 days long, but usually 9-10 days. Labs are the only things I've had done so far, and of course the cycle they did my labs on was the only cycle that I O'd on CD 14 and had a 13 day lp, for a textbook 27-28 day cycle

DH has a low sperm count. We are trying vit c and zinc for him, and he is quitting smoking. I'm so proud of the progress he's made!

I temp and use OPKs. I'm lucky, because I have 3 days of pos, and don't have to worry about missing my surge lol though of course I do until I see it. I use fmu. Since I was started on metformin for a year, my cycles are much more normal and I have O'd every cycle, but my temps don't stay up past cd 5 or 6.

um.... sorry for the book! I wanted to cram everything in there XD

 

[ItthyBThpider]

I should also I guess mention that I am on cd29 and am 3dpo according to ff. Last cycle was so incredibly textbook it was SCARY. And now this one is also weird in that what O symptoms I have seem really diminished and I've had af-like cramps for a while. Part of me wonders if I had a cp and that's why my lp was so long last cycle and why my af was so heavy and this cycle feels weak and wonky.

Also, congrats on the bfp! That line is fantastic and your beta numbers are super exciting! Are they going to do another beta?

 

[HWPG]

Welcome ltthy!

 

[TTCaWee1]

Welcome Itthy! Thanks! I don't know if they are going to repeat it. My first one at 11 dpo was 47, then yesterday at 13 dpo it was 159. So that's more than tripled. Twins? Maybe? Or hopefully just a really sticky bean. Have you seen an RE? Had an hsg? I'm sorry you have so many obstacles.

 

[mommyxofxone]

Hello, my name is Stephanie, but I usually just go by Itthy. I'm 28 and DH is 29. We've been ttc for 27 months. I don't know how many cycles, but my cycles are really irregular. I had one that was 86 days long and the doc finally gave me something.

I have PCOS, or at least anovulatory cycles and all the symptoms. I did have labs done, but 18 months ago all they did was lh, fsh and insulin and thyroid, which showed my lh:fsh ratio was high and insulin was high. Then I had labs a month ago that was every otherhormone except lh and fsh, and they were normal except for insulin and glucose. So my fs said it was due to my weight loss and that if I have underlying pcos then it's kind of in remission? Something like that. I only started seeing a fs a month ago, so idk. I also have a luteal phase defect that is 8-13 days long, but usually 9-10 days. Labs are the only things I've had done so far, and of course the cycle they did my labs on was the only cycle that I O'd on CD 14 and had a 13 day lp, for a textbook 27-28 day cycle

DH has a low sperm count. We are trying vit c and zinc for him, and he is quitting smoking. I'm so proud of the progress he's made!

I temp and use OPKs. I'm lucky, because I have 3 days of pos, and don't have to worry about missing my surge lol though of course I do until I see it. I use fmu. Since I was started on metformin for a year, my cycles are much more normal and I have O'd every cycle, but my temps don't stay up past cd 5 or 6.

um.... sorry for the book! I wanted to cram everything in there XD

hi !!! :wave: welcome! glad to have you on our journey!!


how are all you lovely ladies this am?

i just got partial ferning again on my microscope after days of nothing, which could mean it just picked up my estrogen the first time, and then i'm really getting ready to o which would put me most likely... cd 21. i'm hoping it's that, because i don't want to wait til cd28! this is the second ferning i've seen so crossing my fingers that my opks pick something up.

ff is saying i just o'd on cd 15. which is a bit early and again opks and ferning didn't confirm so, not sure. We dtd the last two nights, and everything says we did a good time with timing. So now i'm just waiting to see if it really was O and if i'm in the tww or not? lol so much waiting.