Plus size models

[Eternal]

The term 'plus size' is pretty vulgar when it refers to someone who has a healthy BMI - I want the term to disappear as quickly as possible. I'm certainly not fussed about girls bigger than your average catwalk model getting work since I find the industry revolting although I would find it a tad ironic if we were presented with unhealthily large models.

What DOES plus-size refer to? What size range are we talking? When I think plus-size, I imagine sizes that are hard to imagine on someone within the BMI range of 'normal' or even 'overweight'.

In the UK they tend to be size ranges of 18-32.

Not always, plus size basically means anything over a uk size 8. I like these Americas top model type programmes and plus size was anything over the dry skinny girls we are used to seeing, there have been a few on it like a uk size 12!

 

[bumpy_j]

The term 'plus size' is pretty vulgar when it refers to someone who has a healthy BMI - I want the term to disappear as quickly as possible. I'm certainly not fussed about girls bigger than your average catwalk model getting work since I find the industry revolting although I would find it a tad ironic if we were presented with unhealthily large models.

What DOES plus-size refer to? What size range are we talking? When I think plus-size, I imagine sizes that are hard to imagine on someone within the BMI range of 'normal' or even 'overweight'.

Generally, you should be at least over size 12 to be a plus size model - and most seem to be around the 12-14 mark, you do get a few that are bigger though. Really IMO, 'plus size' should refer to models that are over the average clothing threshold i.e a UK size 18. I don't see why size 10 always seems to get excluded from the fashion modelling industry since it's vastly considered a healthy ideal for many women.

Crystal Renn was a very famous plus size model, she's slimmed down a hell of a lot now though:

https://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG8618603/m/1_rex_1938566a.jpg

 

[smokey]

I think the thing that confuses me is you get the type of models that are on the cat walk so a size 8 or whatever then you get the "plus size" ones at about size 18 but where do the average size woman of 12, 14, 16 sort of size fit in? it just always seems to be about one or the other.
Like others have said if its about fashion show type clothes I don't really car because that doesn't really apply high street day to day living and is more about art, whos really going to walk down the street wearing a dress made of barb wire and a swan on their head?
And again when it comes to specific fashions for size 28,30 I don't think it really matter the image it shows to people because again that's a specific thing that people would only ever really come across if actually looking for it so isn't something that comes across to teens as being normal and everyday.
What needs to be monitored more is the inbetween, day to day seen images such as magazines, store adverts, tv adverts and catalouges, high street fashion parades.
That's the stuff that people see and take note of and compare their bodies to because that's the type of clothes they would be wearing everyday so naturally would question about why it looks better on the model and not them and then start to judge their own bodies

 

[smokey]

The term 'plus size' is pretty vulgar when it refers to someone who has a healthy BMI - I want the term to disappear as quickly as possible. I'm certainly not fussed about girls bigger than your average catwalk model getting work since I find the industry revolting although I would find it a tad ironic if we were presented with unhealthily large models.

What DOES plus-size refer to? What size range are we talking? When I think plus-size, I imagine sizes that are hard to imagine on someone within the BMI range of 'normal' or even 'overweight'.

Generally, you should be at least over size 12 to be a plus size model - and most seem to be around the 12-14 mark, you do get a few that are bigger though. Really IMO, 'plus size' should refer to models that are over the average clothing threshold i.e a UK size 18. I don't see why size 10 always seems to get excluded from the fashion modelling industry since it's vastly considered a healthy ideal for many women.

Crystal Renn was a very famous plus size model, she's slimmed down a hell of a lot now though:

https://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG8618603/m/1_rex_1938566a.jpg

Another thing I have noticed is with the "plus size" type models why do they put them in clothes that don't suit their shape, its almost as if they are trying to make them look worse.
The shoulder part of that dress is lovely but the waist bit doesn't suit her because it shows off the band of her waist clincher knickers and then just makes it obvious.
There are plenty of clothes and materials that would look better on her but they went for something where you can only get away with it if there are no lines such as underwear or even slight bumps under the material.

 

[MommyJogger]

The term 'plus size' is pretty vulgar when it refers to someone who has a healthy BMI - I want the term to disappear as quickly as possible. I'm certainly not fussed about girls bigger than your average catwalk model getting work since I find the industry revolting although I would find it a tad ironic if we were presented with unhealthily large models.

What DOES plus-size refer to? What size range are we talking? When I think plus-size, I imagine sizes that are hard to imagine on someone within the BMI range of 'normal' or even 'overweight'.

Generally, you should be at least over size 12 to be a plus size model - and most seem to be around the 12-14 mark, you do get a few that are bigger though. Really IMO, 'plus size' should refer to models that are over the average clothing threshold i.e a UK size 18. I don't see why size 10 always seems to get excluded from the fashion modelling industry since it's vastly considered a healthy ideal for many women.

Crystal Renn was a very famous plus size model, she's slimmed down a hell of a lot now though:

https://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG8618603/m/1_rex_1938566a.jpg

Another thing I have noticed is with the "plus size" type models why do they put them in clothes that don't suit their shape, its almost as if they are trying to make them look worse.
The shoulder part of that dress is lovely but the waist bit doesn't suit her because it shows off the band of her waist clincher knickers and then just makes it obvious.
There are plenty of clothes and materials that would look better on her but they went for something where you can only get away with it if there are no lines such as underwear or even slight bumps under the material.

This looks less "plus size model" and more "let's stuff a reasonably sized girl into glitzy sausage casing". Why???

 

[smokey]

The term 'plus size' is pretty vulgar when it refers to someone who has a healthy BMI - I want the term to disappear as quickly as possible. I'm certainly not fussed about girls bigger than your average catwalk model getting work since I find the industry revolting although I would find it a tad ironic if we were presented with unhealthily large models.

What DOES plus-size refer to? What size range are we talking? When I think plus-size, I imagine sizes that are hard to imagine on someone within the BMI range of 'normal' or even 'overweight'.

Generally, you should be at least over size 12 to be a plus size model - and most seem to be around the 12-14 mark, you do get a few that are bigger though. Really IMO, 'plus size' should refer to models that are over the average clothing threshold i.e a UK size 18. I don't see why size 10 always seems to get excluded from the fashion modelling industry since it's vastly considered a healthy ideal for many women.

Crystal Renn was a very famous plus size model, she's slimmed down a hell of a lot now though:

https://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG8618603/m/1_rex_1938566a.jpg

Another thing I have noticed is with the "plus size" type models why do they put them in clothes that don't suit their shape, its almost as if they are trying to make them look worse.
The shoulder part of that dress is lovely but the waist bit doesn't suit her because it shows off the band of her waist clincher knickers and then just makes it obvious.
There are plenty of clothes and materials that would look better on her but they went for something where you can only get away with it if there are no lines such as underwear or even slight bumps under the material.

This looks less "plus size model" and more "let's stuff a reasonably sized girl into glitzy sausage casing". Why???

Exactly, its almost as if its done on purpose to make her look bad and look like she doesn't belong on the catwalk.

She isn't the only one they seem to squeeze into badly shaped dresses

 

[MommyJogger]

Why on earth would a model need to wear spanx anyway?? A few lumps are normal, pretty much through any size. I still had lumps when I was 100lbs soaking wet and for the most part corded in muscle (ahh, the good old days...). I think the dress itself would probably look much better without all the corset-esque junk, so it doesn't make sense. I agree, it may just be that these people are idiots, but it really does look purposefully done.

 

[Dragonfly]

All sizes would be great. Pees me off when looking for plus cloths as I am big seeing someone skinny on them as its harder then to see what it may look like on me. So all sizes for everyone as we are all different.

 

[smokey]

Just a curious observation.
Who do you think is more negative towards plus size women? men or women
I was just looking through a site with "plus size" modals (seriously though I had to really look hard to find anything that I would consider above average) and in the comments most of the positive comments such as

Absolutly stunning, all of them!!!!!! Im in LOVE. Their not plus size their PERFECT...

Finally some women that I find sexy, sure there are "hot" girls on this site; but not many sexy women. Thank you.

these girls look beautiful... way better than the scarecrows the media is trying to market..i think curves are nice ..way better than bones

Beautiful, healthy and normal!

Even some of the back handed compliments of things like "fat chicks are hot"

Seemed to be from men yet the nasty comments such as

is not attractive at all, why on earth would any girl want to be sent down a runway oozing out of her panties? so gross

(must stress there was nothing ozzing out and the model looked stunning)

wow they would all be so beautiful if they just lost some weight. poor girls

MAN THE HARPOONS

I suppose theres a need for these girls as long as there are also plenty of unhealthy dudes that need some action.

Just nasty, loose the weight

Fat girls are just wrong and shouldn't be models

Seem to be from females.
Is it just a bitchy thing? low self esteem, or a case of males can see more beauty in a woman then another women sometimes can (or just randy and will have sex with anyone)

 

[Dragonfly]

I hate body shaming. I see more to bigger woman on facebook like the comments above too. Its actually hurtful.

 

[Eternal]

My husband like curves, it's whole family are super skinny and so was he but he liked women with curves or a bit of "chub" as he would say. Although he isn't into obese women, just want he considers "normal". I guess we are all I to different body types.

 

[smokey]

My husband like curves, it's whole family are super skinny and so was he but he liked women with curves or a bit of "chub" as he would say. Although he isn't into obese women, just want he considers "normal". I guess we are all I to different body types.

Same with my hubby, his crush was sophie dahl but not so much after she lost the weight and one he told me about recently that actually surprised me but hay ho I have out of the norm crushes as well was Miranda Hart.
Hes always liked the curves (mine have turned more fat then curves since being pregnant )

 

[Boomerslady]

I think as Suzi said the models should represent the clothes being sold. So for a plus size brand (meaning 16-32 uk size) they should only have larger models.

As a size 22 myself I prefer to look at 'larger' clothes on someone with a similar body size. I'm a big believer in being happy regardless of size. I'm happy as I am however I know some larger ladies would prefer to be smaller, some people want to be bigger, it's personal choice.

 

[Pearls18]

I think as Suzi said the models should represent the clothes being sold. So for a plus size brand (meaning 16-32 uk size) they should only have larger models.

As a size 22 myself I prefer to look at 'larger' clothes on someone with a similar body size. I'm a big believer in being happy regardless of size. I'm happy as I am however I know some larger ladies would prefer to be smaller, some people want to be bigger, it's personal choice.

I think as the models will be in the media though they still have a responsibility of trying to portray a healthy image, only modelling sizes 16-32 is going too far the other way I feel. But it will depend on the shop as to what the average size is, I wouldn't say size 16 is average for my age range, I think when they are talking about size 16 being average they are countering in all ages, older women particularly those who have had all their children are bound to be slightly bigger, shops like Topshop, H&M etc are going to be targeting a younger audience who while I don't know the stats I am going to assume the average size isn't 16-18. I personally know very few people who would be the "average" size, the way the "average" size is mentioned as if because it is the most common some how makes it healthy annoys me. We absolutely need to get away from the mental and physical pressures and illnesses forced on particularly women needing to feel like they need to be a size 10 or below, but outside of the media the average person is slipping too comfortably into bigger sizes which probably have bigger health problems in the long run and don't think the fashion industry should encourage this either.

 

[Boomerslady]

I meant shops that specialise in 'plus size clothing' for example Evans and Asos curve etc should only use larger models (which they do) however it's usually the lower end of that range so the models are a 16.

I would never expect top shop say to use models of that size as they don't make clothes large enough to fit me (think 16 is perhaps thier largest) so that wouldn't make sense. I just know that I've always been 'big' ive never been smaller than a 16 and even then I had to diet and pretty much starve myself, I'm 5 11 and as I describe myself, built like a man!!!! Size 10 feet etc, just big boobs too!! I don't see why there shouldn't be larger models to cater to people who are bigger.

 

[Pearls18]

I meant shops that specialise in 'plus size clothing' for example Evans and Asos curve etc should only use larger models (which they do) however it's usually the lower end of that range so the models are a 16.

I would never expect top shop say to use models of that size as they don't make clothes large enough to fit me (think 16 is perhaps thier largest) so that wouldn't make sense. I just know that I've always been 'big' ive never been smaller than a 16 and even then I had to diet and pretty much starve myself, I'm 5 11 and as I describe myself, built like a man!!!! Size 10 feet etc, just big boobs too!! I don't see why there shouldn't be larger models to cater to people who are bigger.

Oh absolutely I agree. The models should reflect their target market. People are all built differently, size 8 can be very unhealthy for some women who starve themselves to it, but some women may have really fast metabolisms who are very healthy, and the same can be said for bigger sizes depending on cholesterol, muscle etc. I believe we all have a "natural size" that is healthy for us. The problem with the way the industry is now it is all trying to get us to conform to one size, resulting in unhealthy body images and reactions.

 

[emyandpotato]

Plus size is pretty big though isn't it?! I just quickly checked out the term and it came up with a lot of plus size ranges, with models who look, to me, to be at least a 16. Example: https://www.asos.com/ASOS-Curve/ASO...=9577&sh=0&pge=0&pgesize=36&sort=-1&clr=Cream

Okay now I may be wrong here, but to me, she looks unhealthily large. Not to say she looks bad, or looks unhealthy; she looks great. But BMI wise, she looks on the overweight side at least. Considering that for a 5'5 woman ten and a half stone is overweight, and that that was my weight after pregnancy and I didn't look nearly that large, I am guessing that she's on the upper end of the overweight scale. Am I making sense?! So it's not really any better than having a size 4 model.

I absolutely adore the stick thin unhealthy look so I'm not really the best person to ask about this- I wouldn't buy clothes modelled by a chubby model as I'd think I'd look the same- but I guess in theory it'd be nice to have a range of sizes, which is slowly becoming more and more evident in the fashion industry. Karl Lagerfeld often champions such in his couture shows, and many publications are branching out from the standard stick thin models just because they need something new, you know?

 

[emyandpotato]

To add, I do not mean that plus size models should not model plus size ranges, I was just clarifying that I don't think plus size models are healthier or a more responsible representation of women in general.

 

[smokey]

Also though being on a bigger size or a higher BMI doesn't mean your not active of fit.
Im a hell of a lot more active and fitter then then most of the girls half my size at work.
Plus BMI is a very outdated mode.

 

[steph.]

Also though being on a bigger size or a higher BMI doesn't mean your not active of fit.
Im a hell of a lot more active and fitter then then most of the girls half my size at work.
Plus BMI is a very outdated mode.

Tell that to my MIL. She reckons people with high BMIs should have less baggage allowance on planes. I cant stand the woman.