Ruadhan Or Rowan? Read first please! :)

As a British person of English, Scottish and Irish decent, I see no reason not to spell names the Gaelic way. At least it is a spelling and not just randomly adding extra letters to names or making them up and it has a reason behind it. I don't believe in naming themes for their own sakes but you should pick the name you both want and it is a lovely name.
 
Justplay, thanks! I'm pretty sure we agreed on Ruadhan for sure just now and I'm sooo excited! I've been wondering how to say your son's name, that's so cool. I don't know why random people think they can criticize your name choice. I'm like, you wouldn't lecture someone for using the name John because it's too common. (no offensive to the name John lol)

And Boo, I agree with you on that for sure. Rowan is actually a name/word outside of the Irish version. Keeva however just looks like a horrible Americanization. I once met someone named Shivonne and I just feel like it takes away some of the beauty when you take away the Gaelic spelling. Rowan however is a great name in its own right. Which made this decision a bit harder!

You worded that much better than I did, thanks! Lol
 
Hi, lovely names & also love Caoimhe. Im Irish, living in Ireland, and its funny I know a few Rowans but no Ruadhans (v rare here), but definitely go with your instinct & preference. Good luck :)
 
I would only go for the traditional spelling if I was Irish making the spelling more important culturally personally if that makes sense, perhaps more conversely I would only use the Gaelic spelling within Ireland. We're from Wales living in England and I avoided Welsh names as I didn't want my children's names being misspelt and mispronunced all their lives.
 
I voted Rowan mostly because you're in the US and it'll make the kid's life that much easier, not just as a kid but throughout, AND (I find this important as well) because you seem to like that spelling as much or more than the traditional Irish spelling. As someone else said, they won't be a "sibset" forever.

I really like Irish names and their traditional spellings. I have seen Caoimhe before but the spellings are so not instinctual for non-Irish... I couldn't remember how to prouncounce the name until you told us even if I have past experience seeing the name on forums and stuff. And I can't seem to remember, if I close my eyes, how to spell it even if I just typed it 30 seconds ago. Same with Ruadhan (which of course I had to scroll up and check before typing).
 
Justplay, thanks! I'm pretty sure we agreed on Ruadhan for sure just now and I'm sooo excited! I've been wondering how to say your son's name, that's so cool. I don't know why random people think they can criticize your name choice. I'm like, you wouldn't lecture someone for using the name John because it's too common. (no offensive to the name John lol)

And Boo, I agree with you on that for sure. Rowan is actually a name/word outside of the Irish version. Keeva however just looks like a horrible Americanization. I once met someone named Shivonne and I just feel like it takes away some of the beauty when you take away the Gaelic spelling. Rowan however is a great name in its own right. Which made this decision a bit harder!

Disregard my other message since your mind has been made. It's a nice choice :)
 
I'm still interested in opinions! I think it's fun to see what people think about the topic because I know it's a thing people have very different opinions about.

In terms of remembering how to spell the names... I do feel kinda bad about that for Caoimhe just because it's like every vowel thrown together. I have no trouble remembering it obviously, I memorized it quite early on, and I've already got Ruadhan down haha, but I sure hope she's not dyslexic or anything. There are very few people in our lives who always get her name correct - most people mix up the vowels, but you still get the idea. We also call her Keebs, which helps some people if they can't remember how to spell it so they just call her that.

And like I said, I will 100% back their decisions if they grow up and decide they want to spell their names Kiva/Rowan/etc.

My name is Vaela, and lawd I can't even explain how hard people find that name. TBH I don't think it's that confusing, but people call me Vee-ay-luh, and Veela, and Vale, and Vae-ee-luh, and I'm just like are we reading the same name?! :haha: I've always liked it though because it's a conversation starter, people tend to remember my name, and I like the feeling of being the only Vaela around. My mom goes by her middle name but her first name is legally Mary, so when she gets mail it's often addressed to her as Mary but she constantly get's it misspelled "Marry" which is hilarious to me since Mary is like the most basic name ever to exist lmao! So I'm just of the opinion that people are always going to screw up your name and you can look at it as a bad thing or you can have a good attitude about it.

Well that was a random tangent! My husband seems on board for Ruadhan, I'm so happy because the name has really grown on me and I'm kind of in love with it. Rowan doesn't even appeal to me as much, though I will use it if hubby changes his mind. We will probably call him Ro as a nickname, so again people will have an easy nickname to use if they can't spell it.

Oh and about not seeing Ruadhan in Ireland - if I remember correctly, Ruadhan is a surname or something and the use of Irish surnames as first names is more of a trend elsewhere rather than actually in Ireland. I've also seen that it is pronounced Ruin as well as Rowan, so I don't know if Rowan is just an Anglicization of Ruadhan or if it's an alternate pronunciation like how Caoimhe can also be Kweeva.

Well, on to figuring out how to break the news to my family haha! Thank you all for your input!
 
How do you pronounce Vaela? I mostly read it as vayla (Layla with a V) It's a really gorgeous and unique name!

I have a name that's considered unusual here in Quebec even if it's completely normal and dated in the rest of North America and it's true that people remember us better with unique names!

I asked for opinions when it came to chosing on whether or not to use both mine and my husband's last names (with a "-" in the middle). It's something that is common here because taking your husband's name is not allowed and not part of our culture. It's the only way for the mom to share the same surname as her kids!

I like that idea - the kids are as much child of the mom as the dad and I don't see any real reason for it to automatically be the dad's name used. I love my last name and want my kids to have it! But I ended up going with the majority who have dealt with this situation who said that in the end it's annoying to have to write out two names, and repeat them etc. They ended up chosing one or the other to go by for the most part as adults so really - what's the use?

It kind of hurt to have to let go of my name being passed down but I've mostly gone with the "easier for the kid" way when naming. Same with their given names which are Arabic names, but in a camouflaged way that makes them look as Franco or Anglo- Canadian as any other just with that name. With an Arabic last name, I want all the chances on their side in what is still not a completely equal society for all. They'll have easier opportunities as Nora and Adam than Khadijah and Hassan (names that we like and could've possibly chosen in a different setting).

I've gone on a little too much! Sorry about the long post!
 
It's sad, but I think using an Arabic name would be a lot harder than an Irish name due to racism and prejudice. At least here in America. I don't know if the rest of the world is as horrible as us. It's depressing because I think those names are beautiful.

Wait so in Quebec you can't take your husband's last name? I had no idea! My husband is actually taking my last name so I'm glad I get to keep it. I would be so sad to not have the last name as my kids.

Oh and yeah my name is pronounced like Vayla! You got it right. See, I feel like it's really not even that difficult but people just have the hardest time haha.

No problem in regards to the long post, did you see the essay I posted right before you? :haha:
 
I love this discussion! In Ireland names are often pronounced differently in different areas eg Caoimhe is pronounce how you do it most areas but in County Louth and some northern areas its pronounced Keyva but spelt the same. It often depends on which dialect of gaelic used to be spoken in the area.
 
I'd say go for it. I am going for Irish names this time, as well. I am of Irish decent, and it is something I am quite proud of. DD has a Misspelled and mispronounced biblical name (which was the name my mother was going to name me, but went with something else)

So This time we are going with Irish names, well Irish versions of names. So, I totally think you should.
 
Definitely go with Ruadhan!

My (Irish) friend has a DS called Ruadhan and she pronounces it more like Roo-han (or Roo-hun). It sounds lovely with her accent!
 

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