Soy Isoflavones

[haleiwamama]

Ladies how do I add my chart n other info to the bottom of my comments like yours???

Go to your USER CP and click on edit signature. As to the stickers and shiny thingies, if you click on of the stickers from anyone's signature it will take you to the site they got it from and you can make yours.

So, you will post the code from the site on the signature and save.. you can only have 4 images I think

 

[TaylorK]

Thnks for the super fast response!!!
How r u today.. Any updates?

 

[haleiwamama]

Thnks for the super fast response!!!
How r u today.. Any updates?

You're welcome!
I'm trying to keep my head up... things haven't been going so well... I had a scan yesterday and my 16mm follicle disappeared and I definitely didn't ovulate! We're all puzzled... they are having me come in again today after they saw my blood test... I'm confused, concerned, nervous...

Normally I ovulate late because my cycle is 32 days long, and today is only CD12... so IDK what happened.. but it looks like this cycle is wasted already.. might be moving to IVF next month...

 

[TaylorK]

Im srry but ttc in the whole is very crappy n confusing
But the things we women go tru jus to have a baby no other will ever understand.
Did you try soy isoflavones this cycle???

 

[haleiwamama]

I was planning on adding soy isoflavones on the days I wasn't taking clomid... i did clomid cd2-6 and was gonna do soy cd 7-10, but chickened out...

 

[TaylorK]

I did soy n I temp n thing mornin it told me I ovulated on cd15 so now I'm 3 dpo n this is the second time I have everrr gotten them say I actually ovulated ..,feelin kind of hopeful but I'll have to wait n see if it gives me a bfp...
Ive seen ladies on here did both but they never tend to follow through with what the outcome was...
So r u doin opk r tempting r
anything??
Take a look at my chart if u care to

 

[Wtbam]

Can I butt in and ask a silly question?

As far as I was aware, when you have pcos you have too high levels of oestrogen?

Well, clomid is used a lot of pcos, and they say soy ispflavones is natures clomid. They also say soy mimics oestrogen.

Why would you want to add something that mimics oestrogen when your levels are already low? How does it work to help ovulation?

 

[haleiwamama]

Clomid, and supposedly soy too, are actually estrogen blockers. They connect with the estrogen receptors before estrogen has a chance to, so it tricks the body into producing more estrogen and that should help at least 1 follicle fully mature. With PCOS the amount of estrogen your body produces will grow several follicles at the same time but never to a mature state, so you don't ovulate.

Pretty sure that's how it works...

 

[TaylorK]

Hey wtbam.... I've read that to Not take soy if you have pcos I cant actually remember the stated reason but you can search around on here r google I'm sure it wud tell u y...
N I see your taking vitex you should never mix the two

 

[BebVern]

Hi all, how is everyone doing?

Just a little update - I've had a ton of EWCM today and an OPK that's *almost* positive! I'm only CD15 so much sooner than usual; I'll probably O on Tuesday or Wednesday if my OPKs get positive tomorrow. I usually O after CD20 so this is a big improvement, will keep you posted...

 

[haleiwamama]

That's great BebVern!! Keep close watch on your O!! Do you think this was because of the iso flavones?

 

[BebVern]

Do you think this was because of the iso flavones?

DEFINITELY. I never O before cd20, so a nearly positive opk on cd15 is a big deal haha. Looks like it's going to be about 4 - 6 days earlier than usual (if the OPKs keep progressing).

 

[kittykat33]

Just thinking of starting Soy this month, was wondering if there was any updates? Did you get a positive OPK?

 

[BebVern]

Hi Kitty! Yes, I got a strong positive OPK yesterday, and a temp dip today coupled with an EWCM extravaganza and a fading OPK, so looks like today is O day!
This makes it a whopping TEN DAYS earlier than last cycle, on CD18. It really worked for me! I'd recommend giving it a go.

 

[MrsKitty]

I have done a bit more research into soy and have decided not to give it a go (despite being desperate to do something). I read this on another site and along with all the other information I have gathered I think this sums it up: 'DO NOT MESS WITH WHAT ISN'T BROKEN! Meaning, if you have a "normal" cycle (anything under 35 days) it is highly recommended for you to NOT take Soy Iso...or anything for that matter.' Also because of the effect it has on your estrogen levels you should consult your gp before taking it.

It seems to be working great for you ladies but it is not for everyone, I really wanted something new to try but hey. Good luck!

 

[BebVern]

You're right Kitty. Any ovulatory cycle of 35 days or less is 'normal' and should not be messed with. As my cycles were anything between 40 - 60 days it worked for me, but if you ovulate and have regular cycles it's best to leave them alone.

 

[Cheekygringo]

I am trying soy iso this cycle, I have shorter cycles, with a short lp, which seem to be regular, but I really don't think I'm ovulating every cycle. I was on depo shot for over 11 years(before finding out that it shouldn't be taken for that long), and various other birth control also. I have only 'felt' ovu maybe once or twice, and think both times ended with cp. I use opk, but only ever get very weak lines, never as dark as the control. So I decided to give SI a go for a cycle to help me ovu. I am taking 100mg for CD 3-7 to hopefully mature the egg more and not mess with my cycle too much. This works out to two tablets a day and I wanted to keep it as a weak dosage for the first cycle to see whether it helps or not.
I started them yesterday, and am happy to check back with the good, the bad and the ugly that I experience. I am coming up to almost 9 months trying, so I am keen to try something else to see any difference, as my cycle is currely not working very well. Oh, and I can't temp due to working irregular shift work, so no charts.

 

[Cheekygringo]

An update on taking soy iso,
On the last day today, taking 100mg at night before sleep with some food, no side affects, except for 3rd night I felt a bit dizzy while laying in bed, it only lasted a short while.

So far uknown to changes to my cycle, I will update again a bit further through.

 

[katyta]

Hi everyone,

Have been following this thread and i'am really considering taking soy... but getting a bit confused... As far as I undertstand you should not take it if you have PCOS?
But if it kind of does the same as clomid it means in a way improves estrogen levels, right?
So, isnt that good for PCOS?

 

[Cheekygringo]

I believe I read somewhere,
That it may cause more cysts, and anvolutry cycles when you have pcos. It is similar to clomid, but not exactly the same, and clomid when given, is monitered by the doctor who prescribed.

Ultimately, it is your choice when deciding if you want to take soy Iso. If you have pcos and see a doc regularly while TTC, I would let them know you would like to try it.