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TTC and endometriosis :(

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Sorry for AF, Goldfish. :hugs: The months that get your hopes up are the worst. :nope:
 
pbl_ge said:
I'm still reeling from my disaster of a cycle, and deciding what we want to do next. :flower: Have found out my insurance covers nearly 100% of IVF, so I may do it much sooner than I expected.

How are you, Cool?

:hugs:
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Great news that your insurance will cover the IVF, mine does not cover anything related to infertility :( .
What insurance do you have ? And what is the monthly premium for your insurance.
So when are you planning to go for IVF ?
 
Goldfish said:
I got AF today :( The worst thing was I managed to make both me and hubby think that I might actually be pregnant because it was a few days later than my 'average' cycle (even though I didn't test!). Today I rang the fertility clinic and somehow got a last minute appt tomorrow after a walk-in blood test today, so hopefully I can start my next IVF ASAP!

Pbl - I'm glad you don't have to worry about it from a financial point of view. My first IVF was fully covered by the NHS (UK public health system) but we are paying for this next one ourselves.

Cool - how are you doing?
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Oh Gold :hugs: , I know it is so sad to see AF :cry: . But the good thing is that you can move ahead with you IVF now. I am praying for you.
 
Coolstar said:
pbl_ge said:
I'm still reeling from my disaster of a cycle, and deciding what we want to do next. :flower: Have found out my insurance covers nearly 100% of IVF, so I may do it much sooner than I expected.

How are you, Cool?

:hugs:
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Great news that your insurance will cover the IVF, mine does not cover anything related to infertility :( .
What insurance do you have ? And what is the monthly premium for your insurance.
So when are you planning to go for IVF ?
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It's a combo of Blue Cross and United. It's a strange thing that's particular to my state, and is only given to state employees. I can't remember what my premiums are, but they're not cheap! I didn't sign up for this plan until I realized that I was likely to need i/f treatment, and I knew their coverage of it was exceptionally good.

Not sure how soon IVF will happen. I scheduled an appt with my RE for Monday to discuss options. :flower:
 
Yeah I heard in some places they give 1/3 round of free IVF. I get 3 round of IVF because of the location im in. Some places I think there is no free round of IVF. I hope it works out for all. xx
 
Pbl, that's great that your insurance would be covering IVF. I have cigna and it does not cover infertility. I hate health insurance company, most of them are blood sucking LOL . Which state you are in ?
 
Heart : Wow you will get 3 rounds of free IVF !! I am sure you will get BFP in your 1st round :)
 
I think in the UK u get 3 rounds free but they judge it case by case (don't hold me to that Im not certain haven't looked into it) I do find it comforting to no that I don't have to save up thousands if I do need it and I feel for the women who do.

My second to last zoladex injection tomorrow time has gone fast and now I'm both excited about coming off it and nervous about it as well in case endo pains come back. I never thought I cud go this long pain free
 
Itsnowmyturn - Yeah I know what you mean, I really feel for ladies who have to pay for IVF treatment when it doesnt work, I hope all those that go through IVF, it works out. Its not all part of UK, It all depends on the location. Some parts of UK give 1 free IVF and some give 3 Free IVFs as far as I know.

Cool - Thanks! I really hope it does work the first time.

I used to think IVF is easy thing and if it doesnt work out then no big deal just do it again! But its not like that.. I mean Im in half way process of my IVF and mentally is a pressure and a stress. Iv always got that worry of what if it doesnt work out, Its hard not to stress and its not as easy as I thought. If it doesnt work out it will really effect me mentally, anyways enough of me going on about my thoughts which might not even happen! Hope all u ladies r well! xxxxx
 
Heart I am one of those ladies who will pay for IVF treatment :( so I am praying that I don't get a failed cycle.
 
Cool - Ohhhh I hope hope hope it works out for you first time without any hiccups! xxx
 
YearningHeart said:
Itsnowmyturn - Yeah I know what you mean, I really feel for ladies who have to pay for IVF treatment when it doesnt work, I hope all those that go through IVF, it works out. Its not all part of UK, It all depends on the location. Some parts of UK give 1 free IVF and some give 3 Free IVFs as far as I know.

Cool - Thanks! I really hope it does work the first time.

I used to think IVF is easy thing and if it doesnt work out then no big deal just do it again! But its not like that.. I mean Im in half way process of my IVF and mentally is a pressure and a stress. Iv always got that worry of what if it doesnt work out, Its hard not to stress and its not as easy as I thought. If it doesnt work out it will really effect me mentally, anyways enough of me going on about my thoughts which might not even happen! Hope all u ladies r well! xxxxx
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Thanks I didn't no that, will be worth looking into when we r choosing where to live in the future if we can't conceive (8 weeks today until I move over to TTC section)

Coolstar said:
Heart I am one of those ladies who will pay for IVF treatment :( so I am praying that I don't get a failed cycle.
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Good luck I really hope ur first round is successful n u get ur precious bfp xx
 
I also have endometriosis, I conceived my daughter the first time i had sex when i was 15 years old:baby:!!! I didnt dialate properly though and had emergency Csec & its been horror ever since! My aunt had endo and when i had told her about the horrible pains i had been experiencing she told me her history and explained she had NEVER gotten pregnant! I decided to start trying again at only 16 years old, I was very mature for my age (please dont judge) and thought that since ive always wanted 2 children; what if i couldnt have one later on..but from then on I never did conceive untill 2 months ago (after 8 yrs TTC!)! I got my first BFP and shortly after found out it wasnt a viable pregnancy and was in fact a blighted ovum :cry: i have been heart broken ever since and i have heard endometriosis causes poor egg quality which is the cause of blighted ovums but i cant help but wonder if i have conceived many other times like chem preg and such:wacko:?? since my recent BFP it has given me lots of hope though for everyone having trouble TTC because even though my baby didnt develop I DID CONCEIVE and as far as i kno its the first time in 8 years!! I was diagnosed with endo in feb 2010 did lupron injections and 2 rounds clomid, all nothing:dohh:. my tubes are clear and ive never had cysts, scar tissue on reproductive tissue or anything just stage II endo attatched to abdominal wal:nope:l.. makes me wonder if its the bad eggs or NK cells.. has anyone with endo here been tested for NK cells and has diagnoses of endo? or what about egg quality?? I had began taking Maca, & bee propolis 4 months before my BFP i received in june . today i applied natural progesterone cream since i ovulated 2-3 days ago although my progesterone was 9.7 on day 23 (i O on day 17-18 so thats why its day 23) so i wonder if i need the progesterone however i read it can help with immune issues??
 
8longyear - Heyyy How are you? Im so sorry to hear about the fail of the pregnancy! It must be hard, a very long wait. I pray all this wait is worth it and you see a BFP soon. I dont understand some of the words you mentioned as I have not come across it but I wish you the best! xx
I know many people who got married young and had children at young age, its nice because you can see the child grow. Im becoming an oldie and Iv never seen a BFP yet :-( Hopefully soon :-)

Take care! xx
 
8longyears have you considered ivf? Doing my maths are you only 24 that is still really young you should definitely have a chance however probably need a little bit of help.


Question for everyone with Endo - do you think Laparoscopy helps? Did your quality of eggs improve afterwards?

I just had my last ivf after a lap test and had no embryos to transfer so sad:cry:

Now just waiting for aunt flo to come so I can schedule my next ivf
 
Unlucky41 - Awwwww Im sorry to hear that! I hope your next IVF goes well and successful! Best of Luck. Take it easy. xx
 
There are tons of theories about how endo decreases fertility, in cases where it hasn't caused structural problems. We talked early in this thread about how the most common theories have to do with inflammation interfering with implantation. I'm not sure about egg quality issues. :shrug: I did a bit of searching, and what I found was specific about endo that's found inside the ovaries. I'm not sure if endo would have an effect on egg quality if it's only in the abdomen.

I think the NK cells are potentially an issue with endo women, but I'm not really sure.

But, I'm not sure anyone really knows. I think there are a lot of unresolved questions about endo.

As for the lap, my doctor told me that an additional 1 in 12 women with endometriosis will get pregnant following the lap compared with endo women who didn't get it. I'm not sure if that's in 6 or 12 months. So there's a positive effect, but it's small. That's, of course, in addition to whatever % of those 12 women would get pregnant in that time anyway.

Unlucky, I'm sorry your IVF didn't work. :hugs:

Yearning, I hope you get a bfp soon. :hugs:

8long, sorry I don't know anything about progesterone and immune issues. :shrug:
 
Just found this site. Not sure what this site is, nor how reliable the information is, but it's an interesting read:
https://www.dhinfo.org/2011/03/how-endometriosis-affect-egg-production-on-women/

SOURCES! I want to see SOURCES! :grr:
 
I'm getting the sense that an endometriosis/egg quality link is contentious.

https://blog.attainfertility.com/2012/03/dr-estil-strawn-endometriosis/#.Ug-P3JLVA80
https://www.centerforhumanreprod.com/endometriosis_infertility.html

Real research papers:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21542809
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19933522
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214020
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17140505 (good one on IVF)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16021855

I've requested this full article, although I'm not sure it's a reliable journal:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23598783

I don't think there's much of a point in my getting this one, as I won't understand it:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22298022

There's more, but I'm out of time. :flower:
 
Oh God I cannot read more, it is so depressing :( I am done glancing the first link. Even my doc told me that endo effects egg quality. About lap she told me that 6 months after lap if one does not get PG then lap wont help much in fact it will return with vengeance.
Ladies I have started with acupuncture treatment from yesterday.
 
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