TTC and endometriosis :(

[pbl_ge]

So for what it's worth, I asked my doc today about the endometriosis/egg quality link, and he said that to his knowledge there's no definitive evidence about that. Of course, that doesn't include those whose endo is actually in the ovaries. He also mentioned that it's extremely difficult to study.

Just thought y'all would like to hear that opinion. He's pretty up-to-date on research, and I tend to trust his opinion.

 

[Coolstar]

Thanks for the info pbl . From your signature I can see that you will be starting IVF from next cycle right .

 

[itsnowmyturn]

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[pbl_ge]

Thanks for the info pbl . From your signature I can see that you will be starting IVF from next cycle right .

Yes indeed!

 

[pbl_ge]

Well I'm 7 weeks and 3 days away from starting TTC, I keep getting mixed feelings about it. Will I be ok?? Will I be able to conceive?? If I do will I carry to term?? It's driving me mad and I don't no whether to prepare for the worse or to be optimistic and try and take the stress off myself.

Good luck to you INMT! One thing though: I know you think TTC will be hard for you, but it may be very easy. You might want to post about your first few months in the regular ttc forums, not here in the ltttc forum. Most of the ladies have been trying for YEARS, and some think I'm not really LTTTC. There's actually a thread dedicated to "people who complain about not getting pregnant when they've only been trying a few months," if that gives you any indication. You can do as you'd like of course, but just wanted to make this point.

Hope your TTC journey is short and sweet!

 

[itsnowmyturn]

Sorry but I thought I cud get information from here I'm not TTC yet so didn't see the harm in looking for ppl with endo. I thought as I have endo before even TTC and experience loads of problems from it that I may get some support from others with endo

 

[YearningHeart]

pbl - I know a bit random but I really like your profile image. Its really nice!

 

[pbl_ge]

Sorry but I thought I cud get information from here I'm not TTC yet so didn't see the harm in looking for ppl with endo. I thought as I have endo before even TTC and experience loads of problems from it that I may get some support from others with endo

Of course! Didn't mean to kick you off the thread or anything. I just thought you should know that people in this forum are really sensitive about people complaining about TTC unless they've been at it for a long time. So you probably wouldn't want to say a lot about it here.

pbl - I know a bit random but I really like your profile image. Its really nice!

Thanks. It's of OH and me on what was kind of our first date. Long story.

 

[itsnowmyturn]

I wasn't going to talk about TTC because I really wudnt want to upset ppl, I just wanted info. I feel that already knowing I have endo is very tough as a lot of ppl don't find out until after TTC for a while, it doesn't make it any easier to deal with but I like to know what I may or may not have to deal with when I do start TTC. I was told years ago I should start a family n since then iv been haunted by the fact that every day I wait I cud be waving goodbye to my fertility. I can't even begin to imagine how these ladies here feel, or any other ltttc ppl for that matter, but I feel that ppl understand my fears better on here than other places. I have ppl to talk to about general stuff but I was seriously lacking info on endo and TTC and needed a specific thread on it. I'm sorry if iv intruded on ur conversation ladies. I hope u all get what u so much deserve and all of ur waiting pays off xxx

 

[Coolstar]

Thanks for the info pbl . From your signature I can see that you will be starting IVF from next cycle right .

Yes indeed!

Wow !!! So you waiting for AF to start ? Looking at you ladies even I want to start my IVF as soon as possible .
I have read egg transfer is like IUI but any idea how the egg retrieval process is ?

 

[Coolstar]

Heart : How is your IVF going on ?
INMT : You have not intruded anything. We are all here to support each other.

 

[pbl_ge]

Thanks for the info pbl . From your signature I can see that you will be starting IVF from next cycle right .

Yes indeed!

Wow !!! So you waiting for AF to start ? Looking at you ladies even I want to start my IVF as soon as possible .
I have read egg transfer is like IUI but any idea how the egg retrieval process is ?

Unfortunately AF isn't coming along any time soon. I REALLY responded poorly to the meds, so it's going to take some time for my hormones to sort themselves out.

So the egg retrieval takes less than an hour, but they do put you out with anesthesia. They told me they use the usual dildo cam, but thread a catheter with a suctioning needle up there too. They poke through the walls of the vagina, I believe, to get to the ovaries. But it's a small needle, so not much different than a blood draw. Then they suction out the eggs while watching the u/s screen.

There are tons of youtube videos about this, but I'm not sure I need to know the details.

 

[Goldfish]

Itsnow - I really hope that you never get to be LTTC and that your stay in TTC is short when you get there! Ive met some BnB ladies with endo who've managed to conceive quite quickly, so hang in there!

Coolstar - DH says I was only away for 20 minutes or less for my egg collection! But I think that it was quick because I only had 2 eggs. All I remember is lying down, them asking me a few questions, needle going in the back of my hand...then suddenly next thing I know I'm waking up and DH tells me they've finished! Embryo transfer was pretty easy too, like a cervical smear (but better I thought)

Pbl - that's cool that you got a photo of your first date with DH!!

 

[YearningHeart]

Cool - I went for a scan today and I have only 2 follicles are 18mm! Some lazy follicles! and I have been stimming for 15 days today! Anyways I have to still continue stimming. I have another scan on Friday and then egg collection on Monday! Waahaaayyy

pbl - Thats what I used to do and still do - Check on utube, there are some good utube videos which explain certain IVF process however some are rubbish. hopefully time passes fast for you and AF comes soon.

 

[itsnowmyturn]

Thanks ladies. I really hope u girls get ur baby soon, there are a few ladies with endo in the wtt section so hoping to have some ttc with endo buddies. Got a gynae apt in Sept so hoping he can give me all the info I need

 

[pbl_ge]

Yearning, I'm sorry--two follies isn't a very high count! Are they going to be able to get some more in the game?



Glad to hear there's a WTT/endo thread!

 

[YearningHeart]

pbl - Yeah I was gutted when they said 2 follicles I seriously thought there would be more

I have a scan tomorrow and instead of looking forward to it, I am actually really nervous and scared. Im scared they are going to say the follicles have not grown enough

I hope I come home with good news. xx

 

[Goldfish]

Yearning - I know how you feel - I only had 2 follicles when I first did IVF too. There's a small chance they might see another one when they do the egg collection that they might not see on a scan. do you have low AMH/lowAFC/high FSH? Good luck for your scan!

 

[YearningHeart]

Gold - Thanks for the reply. Im just so scared I will get a BFN. I keep saying to myself not to get hopes up.

what is AMH/lowAFC/high FSH ?? and I dont know if I have low of it. Do you think I should ask my doctor this?
x

 

[pbl_ge]

You almost certainly had blood tests done on those hormones. Did they tell you anything about the results?
AMH = Antimullerian hormone
FSH = Follicle stimulating hormone

AFC = Antral follicle count, done via ultrasound at the start of a cycle.

Any or all of those three things could explain why you're not responding better. If you had low AMH and/or AFC, they would expect fewer eggs. Same thing with high FSH. If all those things were in the normal range, then there might be another reason you're not responding very well. (e.g., the drugs aren't calibrated right for you)

It would be worth asking your doctor why you have so few eggs, and what s/he recommends you do for this cycle. You might, for example, convert it to an IUI cycle, depending on what the indications are.

It's a tough position.