Ttc number 3 :)

Hello,

Just a quick update from me ... I really haven't been feeling well, yesterday evening I came over all flu like and ended up being sick .. I've also got a really sore lower back which I've had since Sunday. I think I must of caught my little boys bug although it's weird cos I feel ok today other than feeling exhausted. I'm trying not to symptom spot hence why my google search has been implantation sickness this morning 🙈!! I did poas because I'm crazy 🙄!!

Gypsy - sorry your AF arrived!! Chin up and onto next cycle :)

Bailey - I can't see anything on latest FRER .. but your not out till AF arrives!!

Katy ... hope you catch that egg!!

cnsweeney - it's great that your man is on board!!

Xx
 
Monkers sorry you have been feeling sick Hun, but I hope it is implantation sickness!! What did your google search find?
 
baileybubs: I'm sorry for for all the BFNs :( Hopefully you'll get your BFP at the end of the week!

Gypsy99: I'm really sorry :( I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this next cycle is your month :hugs:

monkers1984: sorry you're not feeling well :( and keeping my fingers crossed that it could still be something!

Oculi83: I'm sorry you're having so many headaches and about the kids! It sounds like a very difficult day. I hope it's been better.

cnsweeney: Exciting about the flashing smiley! Hopefully it's soon! That'll be exciting to find out at 9 weeks! I didn't have that with my first but had it with my son. It was pretty neat to be able to find out so early (I was 13 weeks), especially as it gave us extra time to prepare since we had to buy boy stuff which allowed us to do so slowly. I'm glad your DH is so on board with everything. I would be shocked if my DH asked me that lol

jellybean: hopefully you find out either way soon!

Katy: Hopefully this is your month! Keeping my fingers crossed!
 
I'm sorry I've not been around and was so blah. I truly appreciate the support.

The reason we have a time limit is because of school. I will (hopefully) graduate early May, so we're hoping to have one shortly after graduation. I can't get a job until I pass my boards, and that could still be July / August until I can even take them, so we were hoping to take advantage of the time. I doubt I'd be hired pregnant, and even if I was, I doubt they'd hold my job while I was off, and with a c section, I don't know if they'd clear me to go back sooner than 8 weeks.

Once I get hired, I'd have to wait awhile before we could even try to make sure I'd be there long enough to be eligible for fmla. Plus I've heard that the first year is kind of a nightmare, and I'm not sure how smart it'd be to add a pregnancy in during that time.

Seeing more spotting on Saturday kind of pushed me over the edge that day. I cried in our room for an hour. My mom was visiting and was very confused (didn't tell her what was going on), but she ended up keeping me distracted for a bit. It eventually turned out to be a very brief spotting. I've had absolutely nothing since.

I've put my chart back to spotting as I really don't think that was AF, but perhaps just a random thing (and perhaps hormones are just off). I know the stress I have with school right now is probably not helping things (and I think that contributed to pushing me over on Saturday). With putting it back to spotting and having a positive OPK and still not temp shift, it put me as not having ovulated yet.

Back in early Sept we weren't really trying as I got the IUD out at CD 32 and assumed I had already ovulated since at that time I was having cycles days in the lower 40s (midwife even thought I would have already just based on that info). Neither of us anticipated a 55 day cycle, so DH and I weren't really trying or paying attention to anything. FF estimated O around Sept 8th (DS's birthday!), the week we did absolutely nothing since everything was really busy with school and we didn't anticipate ovulation. I started temping a few days before AF started as I was trying to figure out where I could possibly be. Even though I only had a few temps, they appeared more of what I think my post-O temps are. I looked at the chart and if I ovulated Sept 8th, it would have been a 13 day LP which sounds about right for me.

So I tried to apply that to my chart, and I'm thinking O may still be possible (and I'm thinking and hoping early November if I'm going by the same CD as Sept) - obviously it still may not be the case, but my temps are still lower. I'm still temping and checking CP and CM. CM still doesn't seem to be changing much at this time (still mostly nonfertile), but CP seems to have had more promising variability than it has over the first 3-4 weeks.

DH has been still encouraging me to keep trying. I've been rejecting the idea, but I'm starting to feel a bit better today and think maybe we can just keep trying until we get an absolute AF. Still negative OPKs, but I'm doing better with my temps, so I will hopefully be able to see if I do ovulate.
 
Aw spunky I'm sorry it's all so confusing for you, I can totally understand you feeling rubbish Hun. It's good that your DH is being really supportive Hun. It sounds like you've got a lot going on and a lot on your mind at the moment so don't be too hard on yourself and make sure you get some me time.
 
Spunky - completely understand study is so stressful. I didn't think I would be so stressed either, but money, placements everything takes you over the line.

Monkers I hope that its something. Google is great but also evil because everything can be something pro, negative or nothing :-(.

Bailey how are you going?

AFM - getting a healthier plan on. Trying to step down in sugar intake and more fruit and vege. I was craving sugar and carbs last night but compensated by drinking a big glass of water. I can tell DH is a bit concerned as well. We are both really neant to be we just are seeing what happens but that's not how my head works!

Im in NZ and preseed is around $30-40 here which I don't have at the moment so trying to find an alternative. I think I used forelife lube last time?
 
Hey gypsy, still no AF or even spotting. Had cramps on and off and major bloating but much less painful than yesterday so who knows what's going on!

Wow that's expensive for preseed! Hmm not sure on any others. The healthy eating is a great idea, I'm doing that myself too. I do slimming world and aim to continue even when I do get pregnant just to maintain healthy eating.
 
Hello,

spunky - I completely understand your reasoning hopefully you will O soon and catch that egg and everything will work well with your timings!
Gypsy - sounds like a good plan eating healthier!! Sorry I can't help with preseed alternatives but ouch that's expensive in NZ
Bailey - still hoping AF stays away for you

AFM - no more sickness (only once last night) so unsure if it was a bug?? I feel ok in myself just feel queasy on and off. My back is really sore though I don't understand why I haven't done any lifting or anything. It's across my lower back n I can't get comfortable at all, (hence why I'm still awake at 3am) had this since Sunday along with on and off cramps. Was this a sign for any of you??

xxx
 
Gypsy- with all of my swaying research I have learned that KY is not good for ttc. It has a very off balance ph I believe that kills the sperm. Have you heard of conceive plus ? That's one similar to pre seed . Conception based lubes are the only 'safe' lubes for ttc because of their non harsh chemicals and neutral ph :)

Katy- there are actually a lot of studies done that show how important diet is to boys / girls . More girls are born than normal in times of recession and war and in poor countries (stress and lower calories ) .. and another study shower most women who had boys ate about 200 calories more than women who had girls and ate breakfast cereals regularly and had high potassium diets . Diet also helps to sway your ph which I also believe in the shettles method so we of course are doing that as well but I believe that ph plays a big role because if you are acidic down there it can kill off the fragile boys . An alkaline environment is better for them . I of course am naturally acidic so I've been using baking soda to bring things up and it works like a charm . But we will see hopefully soon if all of this plays out right ! Lol good luck to you on getting your bfp and hopefully your little girl :) I have a site I use for swaying I'll post it here for you .
 
https://www.lifewithgremlins.com/how-to-conceive-a-boy-or-girl-gender-ratio-swaying-explored/
 
cnsweeney, it sounds very interesting and I will definitely check it out. Maybe it helps a little. I hope it works for you.
I don't eat a lot of carbs (still holding back after gestational diabetes in my last pregnancy - not that I'm suffering because I'm far from a carb addict) and eating lots of fruits and vegetables (though fruit has high sugars as well) so I guess I'm getting less calories too. We'll see, if I get pregnant. I have a feeling I will have a third and that it will be a girl...
 
OK thank you for the information re other alternatives for lubricant's. I'm going to try green tea, drinking more water, no coffee, and grapefruit juice from next week, as I am due to ovulate just after next weekend I think if my cycle stays the same. More fruit too as I sometimes only have a couple of pieces of fruit a week.

We have had a small discussion and I was questioning DH about how much he has fun with himself lol. He said not every day as I said that if he is doing it too frequently it might effect things down there. Especially if he had done it at 4pm then we DTD at 6pm lol.

Fingers crossed these changes and trying to lessen the sugar it will help. I'm exhausted and just want some idea of what the hell is going on as well. I will not lose my mind this time lol. Thank you all for the support!!

sorry about the all about me post I'm in the middle of lesson plans, and my motivation level is pretty low.
 
Well I got another flashy today , was really hoping for a solid smiley :( today is cd 13, I usually O cd14 .. the regular opks are also negative . & I'm not really noticing the ew cm I usually get . I will post my temp chart and opk maybe some of you could help shed some light , trying to stay positive !
 
Here's the chart ..
 

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I missed a couple days from days 8-10 but I don't think there was much activity those days anyways .
Here's the opk from tonight .
 

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I can't remember how OPK's work. Don't they have to be solid lines? Your chart is hard for me to tell too with the days missing. Other signs point to O happening soon though.

I'm so bored at the moment. I just want to start bding again. I'm a slight nymph at times lol. I'm trying to be very optimistic this cycle. I've increased my water and fluid intake exponentially. I'm having at least 1.5 litres of fluid a day, taking multis, and although I ate a bit of chocolate tonight I'm eating more veges and fruit and not as much crap. Fingers crossed this cycle is it!!!
 
bailey: I'm honestly very shocked at how supportive he's being. I got the IUD last March because he said he didn't want anymore. He even said early July that he knows that not having more is the right thing. Then a few weeks later he came to me and said he wanted to try. I didn't believe him because of all of the hoopla of him being so adamant about not wanting more (like he kept telling me he wanted to try, but then he would finally be honest and say that he was only saying that to make me happy). So I refused to believe him at first. He kept pushing the subject saying that he really did now that we were finally starting to get over the worst part with DS (very bad reflux, dairy protein allergy, up constantly, extremely fussy pretty much 24/7) and that he was starting to enjoy DS a lot more (I mean, things are still a bit hard with DS, but it's teething now and not the other). Plus DD is such a daddy's girl, and he said he's sad that she's growing up and is really hoping we have another girl so he can have another daddy's girl (but still wants another son, but daughter first).

I actually had a big chunk of all of the baby things out for a garage sale mid-August because I really figured he was just saying things to make me happy (which I couldn't agree to again only to find out that was the case as I'd need both hands and both feet to count the number of times he did that). In my experience, baby items (especially super cheap - like $1 or $0.50) went insanely fast from my own garage sale shopping experience and everyone else I knows experience. Not one thing was bought. So I stuffed it back into our basement and figured I'd give it a try again next year.

DH kept pressing that he wanted to try. I only agreed to get my IUD out at the end of August because I wanted it out anyway because of the problems it was causing (mostly the cycle irregularity and AF was just generally unpleasant with it). I really didn't believe him. My midwife even gave me nuvaring samples in case he changed his mind (or if it didn't happen when we needed it to). I really didn't anticipate him following through, but he's been the one to say that we need to BD the majority of the time. Even over the last week he's been very persistent in trying to encourage me to keep trying. So it's very surprising for me to see him so supportive (I actually thought he'd be happy when all that was going on last week...). Sorry for the novel... :blush:

How did you do with your other pregnancies with eating? It was always a struggle for me and actually gained entirely way too much with both pregnancies. I'm really hoping to eat better this time if we do manage.

I'm actually in counseling for eating issues. I've improved a ton since starting, but a lot of that was help with meds. My midwife wants me staying on Prozac as she feels the benefits outweigh the risks, but I was also on Vyvanse and Adderall, but had to stop both of those for ttc (which isn't helping right now as those have seriously been a life changer). The Vyvanse played a HUGE role in combination with the Prozac. Without the Vyvanse and Adderall it's been more of a struggle, but I put the struggle more to stress and exhaution. I'm in a much better place that I think I'll be okay with the Prozac and counseling still, but I really hoping that if we're successful (which I doubt) that I'll be able to go off the Prozac to see if counseling alone will be sufficient through pregnancy.

Gypsy: I think school really does just make it that much more stressful and whatnot. I saw that you mentioned you ran at school - are you in school as well then? I have 2 that are currently pregnant in my class. I actually had DS 3-4 weeks into my first semester. I'm honestly just amazed that I've made it this far when I thought I'd have to do a medical withdraw my first semester since I had a c section.

I'm really trying to be healthier, myself. It's a struggle especially with the stress (the stress of the last week has really thrown me into comfort eating, especially bakery from a local bakery that is unbelievably amazing).

Did you find that conception friendly lube helped before? With my cm being so non-fertile and in scanty amounts, I was considering pre-seed, but I think on Amazon it's like $20 or something? I'm not sure if it's worth it for one shot at ttc, and at this point, that's if it even got here on time anyway.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you this cycle!

Monkers: I really hope those are good signs of a bfp! When do you test?

cnsweeney: I feel really silly asking this, but.... how exactly do you use conception lubes? I've never really used lube, so I'm not sure really how it'd be applied or if the conception ones you've have to use differently or something. I know it sounds so ridiculous, but I just don't know.... lol Pre-seed is like $20 on Amazon and I'm not sure I'd get it in time as I think I may O soon, but not sure. I've seen it at some local stores, but I can't remember how much I had seen it for. I'm not even sure DH would be up for that.

How far in advance do you have to start things to be more successful with swaying for a girl? Other than BD anyway, like with diet and pH and whatnot?

I wish I could help with your chart and OPKs, but I'm not really great with them myself yet. I barely charted with DD (my first temp was the day before my temp shift), so this really my first go around, and definitely my first with opks. I really hope you get your positive opk soon. Maybe it's just a delayed O this cycle?

Katy: When do you think you'll be able to test?
 
All I can say is that I'm praying O is around the corner.

Sex drive increased. When I woke up this morning, I texted DH and told before we get the kids from daycare after he gets home from work, he's coming in and we're having a quicky :haha: It can't remember the last time it's been this high :blush:

Opks, I think, are negative, but they've been darker since Tuesday afternoon than they were Saturday - Sunday (I was holding onto hope that they'd tell me something and make me feel better). Attached the ones from Tuesday to most recent. Top 2: Tuesday afternoon and evening; Middle 4: Wednesday early morning, early afternoon, early evening, late evening; Bottom 3: This morning and then 2 hours later :haha:

I'm going to do it twice more today, but I'll have at least 4 hours in between.

I got some ferning on my scope. I don't think it's full ferning, but it's a lot more and bigger than the tiny bits I've had before. Attached some pics. They're not the greatest as I'm still working on how best to take pictures of it.

CP is medium-high, soft open. Watery (I think!) cm... not sure if it is though.

BBT is looking a lot more stable now that I'm doing better with temping around the same time.

Also started having sinus issues last night (but have had a cough on and off for almost 2 months now), so I started mucinex. I've heard it can help with cm a bit (I have noticed cm changes while on it before), so hopefully it'll serve a couple of purposes.... hopefully.

I'm just really praying it's around the corner though.
 

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Gypsy - yes , the opk's have to have two solid dark lines . :/

Spunky - I actually haven't used the conception lubes before but just read a lot about them . I hear you put some into some kind of applicator thing and inject it in to your vagina . Maybe others could help shed some light there .but I also heard to start out with like a quarter of the recommended amount because it can be very wet and messy . And then go from there .
As for your OPK's some of those look positive ! Especially the last two . I would def. get to bd'ing!
With swaying , the earlier the better to start but rule of thumb is no later than the start of the cycle you are ttc in . So day 1 of your period . But ph can be altered with baking soda or vinegar douches at the last minute :)
As for me , I think O may just be delayed due to a really bad cold / sinus infection I kind of just got over . Do you guys think that could delay O ? Not to mention my youngest daughter is just now getting over some pretty bad fevers and a case of croup . It's that time of year :( I'm hoping that's all the issue is and it will come soon ! Opk was negative again today and the cb digi was another flashy . I only have one more of those which I'm waiting for a darker opk before wasting it . Oh the struggle ! lol
 
cnsweeney - yes anything can delay O day. You could be stressed or sick etc and it can delay it.

Hope that it comes soon for you though so you can start getting your groove on :-P

Good luck Spunky!! Hope that the Mucinex works for you. If it helps with CM then yay!! I'm studying at the moment and am on placement at a school. It has been so good, but unfortunately life has been putting things to a halt there. There have been a few factors have have taken the positivism out of it unfortunately. Only one week left though and I am going to make it through!!!

How is everyone else going with their cycles?

AFM - had a breakdown this morning after the great government departments in NZ decided to F us around. I am so broke at the moment! The stress is unreal. This is why I really am trying to concentrate on mindfulness and eating and drinking better. My water / fluid intake is still going well. I am averaging 1.5litres of fluid including green tea everyday, oranges, yoghurt, pineapple juice smoothy each day, and only drinking tea not coffee, and water of course :-). I'll move onto the grapefruit juice once AF disappears. It seems like it has been longer this cycle, but it's great because I'm not getting the horrendous pain anymore!!! Fingers crossed that stays away too.
 

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