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Want to give up but hubby won't let me.

Princess Lou

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Hi Ladies.

I guess I will start at the beginning. (Sorry but it's going to be long.)

So, in June 2008 my fella and I decided it was the right time to start a family, I was booked in to have the implant removed in July and rather than have a new one put it, we planned our family.

I was advised that I would have a withdrawal bleed within a week and then my cycles will start as they were before I went on birth control at 15, every 28 days, I could even pin point the minute they would start they were that regular (started aged 10).

Anyways, by mid September I still hadn't had a bleed and my fella suggested I take a HPT. Expecting it to come back negative, I was shocked when it came back positive I was shocked and very much thrilled. We went to see my GP who confirmed with a urine test that I was pregnant. Beginning of October I noticed some spotting and was advised to go to Accident and Emergency just to make sure that everything was okay. There I had a blood test done and was advised that I appear to have suffered a miscarriage and could expect everything to come away. I through myself into making sure everything was ready for our Wedding in November, becoming increasingly concerned that I still hadn't bled. After the wedding I went back to the doctor to see what was going on and I was referred to the hospital for tests and scans. A urine test said that I was pregnant, a blood test said I wasn't, a scan confirmed that I was never pregnant and I had cysts on my ovaries and that was what was causing the positive result on the urine test. I was devastated. I had grieved for a child that not only did I never lose, I never conceived. I was monitored with the cysts and a month later, a week before Christmas they ruptured and I was in hospital until Christmas Eve.

Three month later, still having no periods, I was sent in for further scans to find out what was happening but received no answers. Finally in August 2009, 13 months after we started trying, I was referred to a Fertility Specialist. We got the appointment through for 10th November. Excited and nervous we made our way there. When we arrived we were informed that I had called and rescheduled for five days earlier on the 5th. This is something that I would never have done, November 5th is my Mum's birthday and I lost her to cancer eight month earlier after such a short battle.

I decided not to dwell on things and a few days later we moved our lives from England to Ireland.

I began seeing a new doctor. He decided that rather than wait for my records to become available to him, he would run his own tests and then refer us to the Fertility in Ireland. As my hubby was working in Scotland for a few month, we would have to wait for his tests. We were once again referred back to the specialist and finally saw one in October 2010, 2 years and 3 month after we started on our journey.

Once again, we were sent for tests. At this time I had lost count of the amount of tests I had undergone. At least my hubby's SA's kept coming back very healthy. One of us having problems is bad enough.

In March this year we went back for another appointment and I was prescribed Clomid. CD's 1-5 at 50mg. I went in for a scan on CD12 to make sure things looked okay. At CD35 I hadn't gotten my period and kept getting negative HPT's. I went in for a blood test and another scan. Both denied pregnancy. I was advised to go straight into the next round of Clomid but to change the dosage from 50mg to 100mg. On CD12 I went in for another scan an ovulation looked really positive. Later that day I started getting pains in my pelvis so I just put it down to ovulation pains. They continues to get worse and sex was eventually unbearable, I couldn't even pee without feeling more pain in my pelvis. I went to the doctor and the tested me to see if it was a water infection, although he thought it was probably OHSS (Over Hyper Stimulation Syndrome). I trip to the hospital confirmed OHSS. I was advised to go back if the pain intensified, otherwise, at the end of the cycle I should return to normal. Sure enough, AF arrived, putting that cycle at 26 days. Cycle three and four were also at 100mg. Cycle three was 29 days and cycle four was 28 days. For cycle five I was put on 150mg and sure enough, AF arrived, 29 days. On August 5th I started on 200mg for cycle 6. Going over my previous cycles, AF was scheduled from August 31st to September 3rd.

Friday 9th September, AF had not arrived and I had three negative HPT's. At lunch time today, (Tuesday 13th September 2011, 3 years, 1 month and 3 weeks after we started trying) I was told the test was negative. Neither my GP nor my FS will do anything to find out why I don't have a period or a positive despite ovulating on CD14 (FS confirmed). All I have been told is that I will be referred for a Clomid Review appointment which will be approximately 12 weeks before that comes through.

Now I am at the point where I am thinking "what is the point of continuing to out myself through this torment? To put my forever loving husband through the heartache of not getting the longed for family that he deserves and could have with any other woman." I have been feeling/thinking this for a long time and today was the last straw for me. There is only so much one person can take and cope with.

My hubby wants to keep trying and we have agreed that we will go to the review appointment when it comes through and in the meantime we are going to look into adoption and fostering.

Sorry that this is so long and the rant but I needed to vent somewhere and there isn't anyone I know personally that has gone through infertility or even knows anyone other than me that is having the issues I am.

Good luck to all you ladies and I hope you get your much anticipated BFP sooner rather than later.

XXX

 
I'm sorry for all the pain your going through. I would question why they're not looking into your lack of af and instead filling you up with clomid.

Sometimes you need to be really forthright to get treated properly. There is obviously an issue and they seem to be skimming over it and just giving you a drug.

I have travelled over to Ireland recently to star Napro technology, I don't know wether you would be in the position financially to try it. The cost is no where near as pricey as IVF though. They are also more likely to find your problem.

Best luck
 
sorry you are feeling so low, I too have days like this. I have quite a long story too... and have felt exactly as you are right now.

There is still more that can be done if you wanted to continue, but if you do not, you still have your husband and your life together, the possibilty of adopting.

I know its so hard when the thing you want most seems so far out of reach, i hope you can find some some peace of mind

((((HUUUGGGSSS))))
 
so sorry you are having a difficult time.

I hope you do get some answers at your review appointment, i know 12 weeks seem so far away right now but it will be here before you know it.

It must be a very hard decision, to be thinking of stopping trying. I know as i keep thinking about stopping because it has caused so much heartache day in day out but i guess at the moment i am just not ready.


I wish you all the luck in the world and hope whatever you decide to do, that you & your husband are happy & healthy together.
 
It sounds so frustrating and disappointing. I don't think you should give up..I think, although you obviously are having problems, a lot of the frustration is also due to bad medical care and not really feeling (with good reason) that anything is really being done to investigate the underlying problems...I would hate to think that someone would give up largely due to the NHS...One of the above posters was right...as with anything in the healthcare system, you often have to push and be very very clued up about what you want, why you want it, having done your own research etc...sometimes you get fobbed off badly. So sorry for all your heartache. Do you think you have the right doctor/consultant, can you talk to him/her? Giving up is a hard decision to make and come to, so if you are thinking of that, I guess that you really need to be sure that this want, for a family, won't just arise again in a year/2/3 etc and make sure you have a lot of 'what ifs'....
 
Feeling a but deflated today Hun as well:( sending you hugs x
 
I'm rather annoyed for you being tossed around from doctor to doctor.

So since removing the insert you've only had 1 period? You can still ovulate without having a period, but it's going to be a pain to track it down each month, if you ovulate at all. I don't understand why they didn't out you on something to regulate your period first, before putting you on Clomid.

Also what I read from Clomid is that it's an ovulation enhancer but it does mean you're going to become pregnant. They should up the dose from 50-100mg on the third round. But once they up the dosage it's more difficult to get pregnant the next 3 rounds. Due to fact that Clomid can decrease the quality of your CM and thin your uterine wall.

It sounds like they should just toss the Clomid and put you on Metformin to regulate your period. I'm no FS but that seems like your best bet, that is if they can confirm you ovulate with no period.

Ultimately it's your call, depends on how much you can handle and your age. You've come this far, do you want to put it on pause for a while? Maybe for the next 6 months, spend them de-stressing and just relaxing? Couldn't hurt. Then pick it back up with a fresh attitude.

Now I agree that you two need to discuss your options and how far you want to go in this TTC before you see the end. Is IUI or IVF an option? Or is adoption/fostering children the end for you? I think you just really need a break from this.
 
It was v emotional reading about your journey, it makes you really think about your own journey too. I'm sooo sorry to hear how you've been messed about, it really sounds like you need a better doc, he is no support or help to you.

Just wanted to say don't give up and wish you lots of luck!!

xx
 
Thanks again. I really wish I could try another doctor but we can't afford to go private and in Northern Ireland there are only two NHS Fertility clinics, we live a ten minute walk from one (the main one) and the other is 30 mile away but because we live so close to the other we can't be referred there.

I haven't been told what other options are available to us but it's the heartache I can't take. I do feel a lot better today than what I did yesterday (had a cry and cuddle from hubby) and even though my head is clearer, I still feel that stopping, even for a small while is what's best for me. We are looking into fostering/adopting and just waiting for the information to come through.

Your words of support ladies has helped me feel a bit better, thank you. X
 
Hi Princess.

So sorry for your frustrations. I know all too well how it feels to be tossed around. Just wanted to share some info I read about cysts and not getting AF even after ovulation. I learned that cysts tend to produce hormones well after the 14-16 day lp, therefore causing your period to be delayed. Its a rare situation that a woman doesn't get AF even 18 days after ovulation, but it has to do with the cysts. Clomid increases your risk for enlarged cysts, and after 6 cycles with the last being 200mg, sounds like that's what you may be experiencing.

Have you tried a low carb diet to help reduce the cysts? How about Metformin? Are you insulin resistant? I also have been looking into reentering my Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) regimen. I know it has helped me get AF in the past and really clean out my uterus. Those are some things to look into that may help move you forward. Baby dust sweetie. I hope it gets better for you soon.
 
Hi TurboTurtle, I already have a low-carb diet. No one has mentioned taking Metformin and when it comes to insulin I have no idea.

I'm calling the clinic tomorrow and demanding that they book me in to see what is going on and hopefully (although doubtful) they can suggest something for me. Whether I'll take the options though is a different matter, not sure if I will.
 
Did they actually figure out why you're not ovulating on your own? All those tests you've been doing, what did they show?

When you say, give up, do you mean, go back on birth control or just not doing drugs anymore?
 
I have no idea why I'm not ovulating, I haven't been told anything. Just "Try these pills and we'll see what happens. Oh, that looks normal, that doesn't and that doesn't." What that, that and that are I have no idea. All we do know is my hubbys SA was excellent.

I don't see the point in going back on BC, except that it kept me skinny and my weight went up after coming off it but I'm getting it back down.

If it happens naturally (doubt it ever will - FS words as well as mine) then that would be great but I'm not going to do anything to prevent it.
 
I'm kinda starting to lean towards the same approach. "Would be great if it happens, but not gonna kill myself trying". I think it's probably the only way to stay sane in this business ;)

Eek, I'm such a pain in the ass for doctors these days, I do not take mumbling and "Do this and that" anymore. Those days are over :D Now I'm made out of questions and requests for explanations.

It's funny you said that about birth control. I too gained quite a lot of weight once I stopped it. But it might also be explained with the stress of TTC.
 
When we go to the review appointment I am going in with the approach of 'not leaving till I understand what is wrong'.

On the plus side, as I have to wait twelve weeks before my review appointment, I can at least go back on my medication to sort out my headaches (chronic tension/cluster headaches that lead to migraines).

XX
 
What you have gone through is horrific but don't let yourself be put off.

Have you thought of starting the adoption procedure whilst having treatments? It will certainly shorten the inital time involved.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
 

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