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Controversial Therapy for Pre-Teen Transgender Patient Raises Questions
By Perry Chiaramonte

Published October 17, 2011

A lesbian couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy who wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty -- so that he can have more time that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.

The couple’s supporters say the Hormone Blocking Therapy has only minor side effects and is appropriate for a child who is unsure of his gender. "This is definitely a changing landscape for transgender youth," said Joel Baum, director of education and training for Gender Spectrum, a California-based non-profit group. "This is about giving kids and their families the opportunity to make the right decision."

But critics of the treatment say 11-year-olds are not old enough to make life-altering decisions about changing their gender, and parents should not be encouraging them. They say it’s too soon to tell what the side effects of the treatments may be, and they say Tommy’s parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, are irresponsible for seeking them and allowing them to be administered.

"This is child abuse. It's like performing liposuction on an anorexic child," said Dr. Paul McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.

"It is a disorder of the mind. Not a disorder of the body. Dealing with it in this way is not dealing with the problem that truly exists.

“We shouldn't be mucking around with nature. We can’t assume what the outcome will be," McHugh said.

Dr. Manny Alvarez, senior managing health editor of FoxNews.com, said the hormone blockers also may pose a medical risk. "I think that it’s highly inappropriate to be interfering with natural hormonal growth patterns,” Alvarez said. “There are significant potential problems necessary for growth and development.

"Potential long-term effects can include other abnormalities of hormones, vascular complications and even potential cancer. I think that if this child – as he finishes his puberty and teenage years – decides to undergo a transgender procedure – then there are proper channels to do so.

“But to do it at the age of 11 -- to me -- could be potentially dangerous to the health of this child," he said.

Tommy's parents, Moreno and Lobel, say they support their child and feel this is the best way for him to find an answer to a question he’s been asking all his life. They say Tommy – whom they now call Tammy – began taking GnRH inhibitors over the summer so that he will remain a prepubescent boy until he turns 14 or 15. They say they want to give him more time to explore the female gender identity that he associates with.

Thomas began saying he was a girl when he was 3 years old, his parents said in an interview with the Daily Mail. He was learning sign language due to a speech impediment, and one of the first things he told his mothers was, “I am a girl.” They say they thought he was confused or mistaken, and signed back, 'No. No. Thomas is a boy."

But Thomas insisted, they said. He shook his head “no” and repeated what he had signed.
They said Thomas threatened to mutilate his genitals when he was 7, and psychiatrists diagnosed a gender identity disorder.

One year later, he began transitioning to Tammy.

After much deliberation with family and therapists, the child began taking hormone blockers a few months ago. The medication, which must be changed once a year, was implanted in the boy’s upper left arm.

Tommy will continue this treatment until he turns 14 or 15, at which point he will be taken off the blockers and pursue the gender he feels is the right one. He will then either start his puberty cycle as a boy – or begin making the full transition to a girl.

"There's an increase of children who are telling their parents that they are a different gender. We're trying to understand why there's an increase," said Diane Ehrensaft, a developmental and clinical psychologist and author of the book, "Gender-Born. Gender-Made," who says the trend may be due to a more open society.

But while chemicals are giving children like Tommy more time to decide which side of the fence they belong on, some critics say that some children who question their identity at a very young age might change their mind when they start adolescence.

"Most transgender patients will say that they knew at 6 years old. But what we don't know is how many others had those thoughts and feelings that went away once they hit puberty," said Dr. Jeffrey Spiegel, a professor at Boston University and a plastic surgeon who specializes in facial feminization operations for transgender men.

"While it may be a good therapy for those who've committed to transgender, it may not be good for those who might have changed their mind once they hit puberty and beyond."

Walt Heyer, whose book "Paper Genders" details his own experience transitioning from a man to a woman and back again, agreed. "The blockers should NOT be introduced to a child," Heyer said. "If they are going to make a transition, they should wait to do so when they reach 18 to 20 years old. When you start the therapy at that age you are not dealing with the fact that the mind is not fully developed."

Heyer also cited a Dutch study that said 61 percent of individuals who desire a gender change are found to have secondary psychiatric disorders, such as depression or dissociative disorder, which he suffered from.

Other critics asked whether Tommy’s same-sex parents may be unknowingly influencing his questions about his gender.

“Undue influence on the child simply has to be ruled out,” said psychiatrist Keith Ablow, a Fox News contributor. “It's the psychologically correct thing to do, the ethical thing to do and the moral thing to do."

"Obviously, when two females adopt a male child, then assert that the child is not actually male, but is, instead, actually a female -- like both of them. Everyone in the family should be psychologically evaluated in a comprehensive way before a step like gender reassignment is considered,” said Ablow.

Read more: https://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/...nder-patients-raises-questions/#ixzz1b3xgLXvG
 
Me personally I think it is disgusting, abuse, should have the boy taken away from them, and they are some very twisted people that are using thier child as an experiment. I am a firm believer that you are born what you were meant to be and should portray yourself as such. And these parents are taking this to an extreme that is beyond disbelief. I also feel that the doctor who is prescribing these drugs should have thier license taken away as well. And there is no way a 3 year old or even an 11 year old can make a decision like this.
 
That's just ridiculous! :nope: I can't believe they'd do that!

I had a guy friend who has an issue with testosterone...he didn't develop properly until the age of 19 when he started taking special shots to help him grow to his full height and go through puberty...he has to take these shots for the rest of his life and probably can't have children.

How can they put their child through such a thing without knowing what the outcome will be if and when their child decides he actually wants to be a man? How are other kids his age going to treat him once they start developing and he doesn't? How are they positive that his body will develop properly and he won't remain short or have health problems?

I'm 100% for gay marriage and people changing their genders....but I think we're taking things from one extreme to the other...and this can't be good! If my child said he/she felt they were born with the wrong genitals, I'd promise them to pay for their operations and help them through it when they were older if they still wanted it. Who's to say he's not confused due to his parents being both women?

I'd like to make it clear again that I have nothing against gay marriage and I'm not implying that having two parents of the same gender messes people up...but in some cases it could be confusing for the child at an early age.
 
I'm not saying that I wanted to be a man. However I never considered myself girly or a girl if youd asked me at 7-13 I would have wanted to take on a more masculine role in life. It wasnt until 14 that I felt a lot more comfortable being a woman. Not messing around in mud and doing more gentle things. I was a full on tomboy, nothing more. As a kid you dont really understand these things

I would never have wanted my natural development messed with, now as an adult. Yes it was uncomfortble at the time being the first to need a bra and having a D chest by 14.

You need a massive amount of time in life to figure out who you are. Yes it starts early but it finishes late. You cannot start changing a childs course in life at such a young age

However there is also a cultural element at play. If this was Bannock it would be considered normal.
 
I'm not saying that I wanted to be a man. However I never considered myself girly or a girl if youd asked me at 7-13 I would have wanted to take on a more masculine role in life. It wasnt until 14 that I felt a lot more comfortable being a woman. Not messing around in mud and doing more gentle things. I was a full on tomboy, nothing more. As a kid you dont really understand these things

I would never have wanted my natural development messed with, now as an adult. Yes it was uncomfortble at the time being the first to need a bra and having a D chest by 14.

You need a massive amount of time in life to figure out who you are. Yes it starts early but it finishes late. You cannot start changing a childs course in life at such a young age

However there is also a cultural element at play. If this was Bannock it would be considered normal.


I know what you mean. I grew up a total tomboy. I had two older brothers and so was never into playing dolls or barbie. I wanted to play with gi joes, build forts, get in the dirt, etc. But never did I think myself as a boy. I always knew that I was a girl, I just enjoyed being more on the rough side cause I felt needed to prove that I could do just as much as my brothers could. And I am still quite a bit of a tomboy, I'd much rather work hard and get dirty rather than put on makeup, wear dresses, and go shopping. But does that mean my parents should have given me or I should be taking now hormone pills because I was possibly confused? HELL NO!
 
See I can see their side. I know of quite a few young transgendered people that have really struggled with puberty. Particularly male to female, can really struggle if they become very masculine. How many people would take the total piss (and be extremely cruel) out of a very masculine, ie obviously male, woman?

I think this couple are trying to do the best by their child (btw what the hell does their sexuality have to do with it?!?!). I know previous posters have spoken about being tomboys, but did you ever actually feel like you were really boys? I know that I have always had a strong gender identity as being female, even though I'm not girly at all.
 
I agree with Marley.
I've known transgendered people into their 20s and 30s that have told me stories like the little boy in the article.
What kid doesn't need treatment when he/she tries to cut off their own genitials?
When I was that young I was barely aware that I had any, let alone wanting to cut them off.
Something is definitely off about them if they are struggling at such a young age.
I do think gender identity needs further research though, and lots of it, before messing with body parts and sex organs.
 
I think this is the best option for the boy/girl. He clearly does not identify as a boy but this gives him a little longer to make the permanent choice but makes the choice easier by delaying puberty.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the parents sexuality as gender identity disorder is more common with children of heterosexual couples, and besides, its something that is determined before birth - while the baby is still in the womb. Nothing can change how this child feels about themselves but they may feel in a few years time that they would rather not have the surgery but continue in a sort of gender limbo state (as some do).
 

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