when do babies start sttn?

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My daughter is 5 months old and so far has only a few times actually slept 5 hours or longer during the night. She naps during the nap for maybe 15-30 minutes three or four times. She does not go to bed till 11pm or later. I tried putting her on a routine, bath before bed, bath in the morning, letting her fuss it out, rocking, laying with her, etc. I'm just so pooped. I thought she would be getting with sleep by now. :sleep: Is there anything else I can do? What have you done that helped LO sttn?
 
We introduced a routine with max very early, bath bottle and then bed, i wasnt for any reason its just how it ended up and he slept through from about 7 weeks, he is all to pot if he doesnt have a bath before bed x
 
Is there a reason she goes to bed at 11pm? It seems quite a late bedtime for 5 months old to me. What time does she wake in the morning?

They should ideally get 11 to 12 hours sleep at night including feeds and another 2-3 in the day (about 14 hours in total). It could be that she's overtired so not getting decent sleep.

Having said that I am yet to figure out how to change my LO's sleep habits as he wakes up too early. He goes to bed about 7.30pm and sleeps until a feed around 4am (then my problems start).

Not all babies will sleep through though. I know there are people on here with 12 month+ babies who have never slept through.
 
We've got a routine of bed at 7 (that includes me as she won't be put down til 10!) so I'm not convinced by the routine makes them sleep through. She also wakes at least once. Then up at 6am. She's nearly 7 months

My first slept through fairly consistently from around 16 months.

I say they sleep through somewhere between 0-5yrs ;)
 
I think Dd was around 6-7 months before she was going all night every night yet DS starts getting grouchy at around 7 so I know it's getting close to bed time. He gets a bottle at 8 cuddled and fast asleep by 8.30 and that's him till 7 am most mornings. He does still rumble a bit during the night but doesn't take much to settle again
 
My DS was still waking for at 2-3 feeds during the night at 5 months. I don't think he did 5 hour stretches until about 8 months.

With the 11pm bedtime, could you peg it back 15 minutes every night until you get to the time you want?
 
I do believe that routine is important and as such both my boys have had solid routines for quite a while. However, just because you do the bedtime routine thing it doesn't mean they'll automatically sleep through. You're encouraging good sleeping habits which will eventually pay off, it just requires patience.

My eldest started sleeping through at about 5 months. My youngest has just started doing it and after nearly 9 months of waking up at least twice a night, often more, it's absolute bliss!

Sounds like your LO might be overtired. That doesn't sound like enough sleep for her age. Might be worth looking at her napping and seeing if there's anything you can tweak? The more she naps, the more she's likely to sleep at night.
 
She'll sttn when she's ready.

I have routine etc and my LO does not consistently sttn, but that's ok because I don't expect it.

Babies are designed to sttn, it's own own needs and perception that leads us to believe they should.

All that being said your LO sounds like she's not getting anywhere near the amount of sleep she needs with a bedtime off 11pm. You should be looking to put her down much earlier.
 
Is there a reason she goes to bed at 11pm? It seems quite a late bedtime for 5 months old to me. What time does she wake in the morning?

They should ideally get 11 to 12 hours sleep at night including feeds and another 2-3 in the day (about 14 hours in total). It could be that she's overtired so not getting decent sleep.

Having said that I am yet to figure out how to change my LO's sleep habits as he wakes up too early. He goes to bed about 7.30pm and sleeps until a feed around 4am (then my problems start).

Not all babies will sleep through though. I know there are people on here with 12 month+ babies who have never slept through.

^^^this sounds exactly like us! My LO is down by 7.30-8 most nights and sleeps right through until somewhere between 4-6am but then trying to get her back down after that is next to impossible.

I'm also finding it really hard to get LO to nap longer than 30 mins at a time even with rocking her buggy/feeding her at the 30 minute mark so hugs to you OP! If you find something that works please let me know! Xx
 
We've got a routine of bed at 7 (that includes me as she won't be put down til 10!) so I'm not convinced by the routine makes them sleep through. She also wakes at least once. Then up at 6am. She's nearly 7 months

My first slept through fairly consistently from around 16 months.

I say they sleep through somewhere between 0-5yrs ;)

Agree with this! It varies so much.
 
My daughter was about 12 weeks, my son was 18 months!
Both had routines, didn't really do anything different with my son... I guess he was just ready when he was ready :)
 
We've got a routine of bed at 7 (that includes me as she won't be put down til 10!) so I'm not convinced by the routine makes them sleep through. She also wakes at least once. Then up at 6am. She's nearly 7 months

My first slept through fairly consistently from around 16 months.

I say they sleep through somewhere between 0-5yrs ;)

This :haha:. My DH was 4 before he started STTN. DS is 2yrs 8months and sleeps through the night maybe once every 7-10 days, usually up 2/3 times a night. DD... don't ask :haha:. They will all get there eventually, or move out :haha:
 
DS slept 7hrs straight for the first time at 8wks...that being said, his sleep is VERY inconsistent and varies every single night. He will usually give us one long stretch (anywhere from 5-9 hrs straight) then up every 2-3 hrs after that. We have had a routine since about 10wks (bed at 6:30-7 wakes between 1-3 times for feed and up between 5-7). We never know how many times or what times he will wake at night...wish he would be a little more consistent as it's a little unnerving but oh well!
 
DS slept 7hrs straight for the first time at 8wks...that being said, his sleep is VERY inconsistent and varies every single night. He will usually give us one long stretch (anywhere from 5-9 hrs straight) then up every 2-3 hrs after that. We have had a routine since about 10wks (bed at 6:30-7 wakes between 1-3 times for feed and up between 5-7). We never know how many times or what times he will wake at night...wish he would be a little more consistent as it's a little unnerving but oh well!

This is my girl too. very unpredictable now. she used to sttn from 3.5-5 months but since then is up once, twice or three times (shes 7 months)

I have just started to assume that my BABY will never sttn but that perhaps my TODDLER might lol....or that my CHILD will sttn at some stage.
 
I disagree that 11pm is too late. DD1 used to go to bed at around 10/11pm at that age, it suited me for her to go to bed the same time as me. She would then sleep in till 9/10am in the morning. I would get up and get chores done while she stayed in bed. We only had playgroup to go to, so it didn't matter if we missed it. Late bedtimes are fine, providing they get late lie ins too. However, if she has to be up at 7am, then something like an 8pm bedtime would be better.

As for the daytime naps, I think a they typically advise about 3 to 5 hours sleep during the day at that age (can't remember the exact figure off the top of my head). Of course every baby is different, but your LO is only getting 1 to 2 hours a day. At this age they can have real trouble sleeping through the sleep phases and as they enter a light sleep phase they can often get woken up. If you have the time, you could try taking LO for a long walk during her nap (an hour plus) and see if you can keep her asleep longer. Not all naps need to be long ones, but I would expect at least one of them to be a decent length. There are other ways you can help them transition through sleep phases, when you see her start to stir, try patting her tummy to help sooth her. Or is she is in a rocking crib or a swing or something, just give it a little rock to help her get back off.

You do not need to offer a feed in the night as the first resort. See if you can settle her without a feed (but do not withold feeds if that is what she really wants). She may be waking out of routine rather than hunger. Or even more likely, she may be waking because she is having trouble transitioning from one sleep phase to the next.
 
I also disagree that 11pm is too late. LO goes down at about 11 each night as she goes when we do, she is 15 weeks and will be until she is 6 months, she has been STTN since she was 8/9 weeks old. :)

I agree with another poster and think that babies will go through when they are ready. Although LO goes through she also has the odd night when she will wake :)
 
I disagree that 11pm is too late. DD1 used to go to bed at around 10/11pm at that age, it suited me for her to go to bed the same time as me. She would then sleep in till 9/10am in the morning. I would get up and get chores done while she stayed in bed. We only had playgroup to go to, so it didn't matter if we missed it. Late bedtimes are fine, providing they get late lie ins too. However, if she has to be up at 7am, then something like an 8pm bedtime would be better.

As for the daytime naps, I think a they typically advise about 3 to 5 hours sleep during the day at that age (can't remember the exact figure off the top of my head). Of course every baby is different, but your LO is only getting 1 to 2 hours a day. At this age they can have real trouble sleeping through the sleep phases and as they enter a light sleep phase they can often get woken up. If you have the time, you could try taking LO for a long walk during her nap (an hour plus) and see if you can keep her asleep longer. Not all naps need to be long ones, but I would expect at least one of them to be a decent length. There are other ways you can help them transition through sleep phases, when you see her start to stir, try patting her tummy to help sooth her. Or is she is in a rocking crib or a swing or something, just give it a little rock to help her get back off.

You do not need to offer a feed in the night as the first resort. See if you can settle her without a feed (but do not withold feeds if that is what she really wants). She may be waking out of routine rather than hunger. Or even more likely, she may be waking because she is having trouble transitioning from one sleep phase to the next.

If we want to sleep later then we can LO up later too sulu all by giving him a late nap at 7 or so then bed when we want to! I agree as long as the over all sleep time is good for your LO and they are not crabby then it's probably enough sleep.
 
23 months and still waiting with my 16 month old.

Don't make babies with me or my OH, we have baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad genes in the sleep department :(
 
Mine sttn from 6.5 months.

I agree that 11 pm is too late for bed-time. Why is your LO going to bed so late? I would start by moving the time back gradually first.
 

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